5 suicide blasts leave 60 dead in Iraq

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.

D00D

Please WTFU. Terrorists made Iraq the frontline of "their war"???

Are you insane???

BUSH MADE IRAQ THE FRONTLINE OF HIS WAR. WHAT GAVE THIS LIAR THE RIGHT AND WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO REALIZE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE GREAT LIE TOLD IN THEIR NAMES???

Bond, shouting doesn't make you more right. It only makes you look more foolish. 😱

The terrorists started this war a long time ago. 9-11 was the last straw for us and when we began a concerted effort to fight back.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: AJPatel

Originally posted by: BBond

AJ,

If you didn't miss the reports how can you maintain your erroneous conclusions?

Whether or not I understand Muslim countries I do understand the U.S. and what Bush is doing to Muslim countries.

Here's another example that seems to prove that while I may not understand Muslim countries, Muslims know what Bush is doing too.

Wake up AJ. Recognize the lies.

There is so much that goes unreported that you have to gather from soldiers' first-hand reports or from people that actually live there.

Or from journalists who spent 10 months there on their own, not part of any big-media conglomeration or as an embed:

Home From Iraq
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbc...50508/OPINION04/505080346/1054/OPINION

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.

D00D

Please WTFU. Terrorists made Iraq the frontline of "their war"???

Are you insane???

BUSH MADE IRAQ THE FRONTLINE OF HIS WAR. WHAT GAVE THIS LIAR THE RIGHT AND WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO REALIZE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE GREAT LIE TOLD IN THEIR NAMES???

Bond, shouting doesn't make you more right. It only makes you look more foolish. 😱

The terrorists started this war a long time ago. 9-11 was the last straw for us and when we began a concerted effort to fight back.

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THE TERRORISTS STARTED THIS WAR A LONG TIME AGO THEN MENTION 9/11 WHEN YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11???

Please just WTFU and realize the conflict in your statements. You are using the same reasons Bush used for invading Iraq AFTER THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PROVEN FALSE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

 

[AJPatel]

haha still yelling, still caps. if you read as much as you claim you do, you wouldn't be so misinformed. what is your profession anyways?

and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: AJPatel
haha still yelling, still caps. if you read as much as you claim you do, you wouldn't be so misinformed. what is your profession anyways?

and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

How is he misinformed? Post links with evidence or go away.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: AJPatel
and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

Click it. Don't cut-n-paste it.

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.

D00D

Please WTFU. Terrorists made Iraq the frontline of "their war"???

Are you insane???

BUSH MADE IRAQ THE FRONTLINE OF HIS WAR. WHAT GAVE THIS LIAR THE RIGHT AND WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO REALIZE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE GREAT LIE TOLD IN THEIR NAMES???

Bond, shouting doesn't make you more right. It only makes you look more foolish. 😱

The terrorists started this war a long time ago. 9-11 was the last straw for us and when we began a concerted effort to fight back.

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THE TERRORISTS STARTED THIS WAR A LONG TIME AGO THEN MENTION 9/11 WHEN YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11???

Please just WTFU and realize the conflict in your statements. You are using the same reasons Bush used for invading Iraq AFTER THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PROVEN FALSE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

How many times do I have to say I do not htink Iraq had anything to do with 9-11 and that was NOT a reason we went to war. Media misrepresented the idea that because we went to war with Iraq, there must have been a connection, but this administration never asserted such a claim.

Nevertehless, terroists began the war against us. Now it is up to Bush and his successors inoffice to end it.

 

[AJPatel]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: AJPatel
haha still yelling, still caps. if you read as much as you claim you do, you wouldn't be so misinformed. what is your profession anyways?

and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

How is he misinformed? Post links with evidence or go away.

it's not my job to inform you people. like i said, read soldier's blogs.
http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=298225
http://chadbenson.blogspot.com/
And that's just ONE soldier. There are so many like this out there.

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: AJPatel
and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

Click it. Don't cut-n-paste it.

i did. it goes to http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbc...50508/OPINION04/505080346/1054/OPINION

 

[conjur]

Which pulls up fine for me:

Home from Iraq
Journalist urges Americans to search for truth, freedom'

ABOUT THIS SPEECH

This article is adapted from a speech given by photojournalist Molly Bingham at Western Kentucky University last month. Bingham, a Louisville native, was detained in 2003 by Iraqi security forces and held in Abu Ghraib prison from March 25 to April 2, 2003. Eighteen days after her release, she returned to Iraq to pursue stories for The New York Times, The Guardian of London and others. Taking a short break during the summer of 2003, Bingham had the idea of working on a story to explore who was involved in the nascent resistance that was becoming apparent throughout Iraq. She scanned the papers that summer, looking for an article that would show some journalist had reported the story, had gone deeper to find out the source of the new violence. No one had. So in August 2003, Bingham returned with British journalist Steve Connors and spent the next 10 months reporting the story of the Iraqi resistance. Her account was published in Vanity Fair magazine in July 2004; Connors shot a documentary film on the subject. This speech was a challenge to journalists, and Americans, to speak up and be sure their comments, questions and thoughts are heard, and that the First Amendment is celebrated in all its strengths. Bingham began her career as a photo intern for The Courier-Journal and Louisville Times....

You can also check out Riverbend - Baghdad Burning
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.

D00D

Please WTFU. Terrorists made Iraq the frontline of "their war"???

Are you insane???

BUSH MADE IRAQ THE FRONTLINE OF HIS WAR. WHAT GAVE THIS LIAR THE RIGHT AND WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO REALIZE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE GREAT LIE TOLD IN THEIR NAMES???

Bond, shouting doesn't make you more right. It only makes you look more foolish. 😱

The terrorists started this war a long time ago. 9-11 was the last straw for us and when we began a concerted effort to fight back.

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THE TERRORISTS STARTED THIS WAR A LONG TIME AGO THEN MENTION 9/11 WHEN YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11???

Please just WTFU and realize the conflict in your statements. You are using the same reasons Bush used for invading Iraq AFTER THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PROVEN FALSE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

How many times do I have to say I do not htink Iraq had anything to do with 9-11 and that was NOT a reason we went to war. Media misrepresented the idea that because we went to war with Iraq, there must have been a connection, but this administration never asserted such a claim.

Nevertehless, terroists began the war against us. Now it is up to Bush and his successors inoffice to end it.

How many times will you say Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism then in the next breath justify Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq by saying terrorists began the war against us?

Don't you see that these two statements are mutually exclusive?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: AJPatel

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: AJPatel
haha still yelling, still caps. if you read as much as you claim you do, you wouldn't be so misinformed. what is your profession anyways?

and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

How is he misinformed? Post links with evidence or go away.

it's not my job to inform you people. like i said, read soldier's blogs.
http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=298225
http://chadbenson.blogspot.com/
And that's just ONE soldier. There are so many like this out there.

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: AJPatel
and conjur, that link didn't work for me - 404'ed.

Click it. Don't cut-n-paste it.

i did. it goes to http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbc...50508/OPINION04/505080346/1054/OPINION

So now I'm supposed to rely on the word of one U.S. soldier rather than the myriad news sources I read daily?

Don't be riduculous.

For all I know this guy could be just another in a long line of Bush paid shills.

 

[AJPatel]

this is why i didn't post any links - i know this reaction because i get it over and over again.

when you don't give them anything to read, they say give us something to read. when you give them something, they say oh that's not reliable.

Look up more than one soldier's blog - don't rely on me for your information.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: AJPatel
this is why i didn't post any links - i know this reaction because i get it over and over again.

when you don't give them anything to read, they say give us something to read. when you give them something, they say oh that's not reliable.

Look up more than one soldier's blog - don't rely on me for your information.

AJ

Your "link" is a forum run by one soldier. It's like saying I get my news by reading IMs from some guy in Peoria to his buddies.

I get enough happy talk BS from the U.S. military command in Iraq. I don't need it from each and every member of the illegal occupation.

 

[conjur]

brentroad isn't a blog. And that thread you linked to, notice how the pics the guy offers up show smiling faces of children? Of course, the little ones will be happy as the soldiers give them treats.

Remember the protests?

Remember the news just the other day where the Iraqi police want us out?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: conjur
brentroad isn't a blog. And that thread you linked to, notice how the pics the guy offers up show smiling faces of children? Of course, the little ones will be happy as the soldiers give them treats.

Remember the protests?

Remember the news just the other day where the Iraqi police want us out?

Remember the "little ones" who are blown up by "insurgents" when they go to get those treats from U.S. soldiers.

Their parents tell them to stay away from the Americans. They want the Americans OUT of Iraq.

When is your buddy going to report that on his forum?

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: dphantom
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.

D00D

Please WTFU. Terrorists made Iraq the frontline of "their war"???

Are you insane???

BUSH MADE IRAQ THE FRONTLINE OF HIS WAR. WHAT GAVE THIS LIAR THE RIGHT AND WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO REALIZE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE GREAT LIE TOLD IN THEIR NAMES???

Bond, shouting doesn't make you more right. It only makes you look more foolish. 😱

The terrorists started this war a long time ago. 9-11 was the last straw for us and when we began a concerted effort to fight back.

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THE TERRORISTS STARTED THIS WAR A LONG TIME AGO THEN MENTION 9/11 WHEN YOU KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11???

Please just WTFU and realize the conflict in your statements. You are using the same reasons Bush used for invading Iraq AFTER THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PROVEN FALSE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

How many times do I have to say I do not htink Iraq had anything to do with 9-11 and that was NOT a reason we went to war. Media misrepresented the idea that because we went to war with Iraq, there must have been a connection, but this administration never asserted such a claim.

Nevertehless, terroists began the war against us. Now it is up to Bush and his successors inoffice to end it.

How many times will you say Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism then in the next breath justify Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq by saying terrorists began the war against us?

Don't you see that these two statements are mutually exclusive?

No.

 

[AJPatel]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: AJPatel
this is why i didn't post any links - i know this reaction because i get it over and over again.

when you don't give them anything to read, they say give us something to read. when you give them something, they say oh that's not reliable.

Look up more than one soldier's blog - don't rely on me for your information.

AJ

Your "link" is a forum run by one soldier. It's like saying I get my news by reading IMs from some guy in Peoria to his buddies.

I get enough happy talk BS from the U.S. military command in Iraq. I don't need it from each and every member of the illegal occupation.

the first link is a message board and the second link is a blog of that soldier (of course it's run by one person).

like i said, i get this reaction all the time. i wasn't expecting anything different. if you want the true information, this is how to get it. that's all i'm going to say.

Originally posted by: conjur
brentroad isn't a blog. And that thread you linked to, notice how the pics the guy offers up show smiling faces of children? Of course, the little ones will be happy as the soldiers give them treats.

Remember the protests?

Remember the news just the other day where the Iraqi police want us out?

first of all, he's not trying to make a political statement with his pictures. they are whatever make him happy.

secondly, we are training the iraqi police. their national guard and troops and everyone is being trained by our soldiers. if you read this guy's postings on the wolf web message board and his blog, you'll see that the iraqi national guard which he is working with is very happy to have the soldiers there, not necessarily the commanders, but the soldiers who are helping them.

Originally posted by: BBond

Remember the "little ones" who are blown up by "insurgents" when they go to get those treats from U.S. soldiers.

Their parents tell them to stay away from the Americans. They want the Americans OUT of Iraq.

When is your buddy going to report that on his forum?

he's not my buddy - just a soldier's personal report that i found out there.

parents went to go vote in the elections. they weren't saying anything then, were they?

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: AJPatel
this is why i didn't post any links - i know this reaction because i get it over and over again.

when you don't give them anything to read, they say give us something to read. when you give them something, they say oh that's not reliable.

Look up more than one soldier's blog - don't rely on me for your information.

AJ

Your "link" is a forum run by one soldier. It's like saying I get my news by reading IMs from some guy in Peoria to his buddies.

I get enough happy talk BS from the U.S. military command in Iraq. I don't need it from each and every member of the illegal occupation.

Great, close your nmind to anotehr source of information so you do not have to try and integrate information at odds with your preconceived isdeas.

I continue to argue all is not well in Iraq, but much better than you seem to want to admit. The terrorists have shifted their tactics and are now targeting civilians almost exclusively. Everytime they go straight up against US military, they are killed in droves.

The US occupation is not teh reason why these terrorists are killing civilans. It may be what they SAY and what some news media want to report, but the real reason theseterrorists er murdering Iraqi children and adults is they want power back so they can then murder in the hundreds of thousands like they used to in the "good ol days" of saddam.

 

[JackStorm]

Originally posted by: dphantom
Nevertehless, terroists began the war against us. Now it is up to Bush and his successors inoffice to end it.

Uh huh...You keep saying Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, yet you see nothing wrong with causing a war in which ended up having terrorists come to Iraq to fight US forces.

I bet Iraqis would just love to hear your opinion on how great it is having terrorists blow things up in Iraq instead on where you live. I'm sure they really appreciate you wanting US forces fighting this never ending war on terror in their country.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: AJPatel
this is why i didn't post any links - i know this reaction because i get it over and over again.

when you don't give them anything to read, they say give us something to read. when you give them something, they say oh that's not reliable.

Look up more than one soldier's blog - don't rely on me for your information.

AJ

Your "link" is a forum run by one soldier. It's like saying I get my news by reading IMs from some guy in Peoria to his buddies.

I get enough happy talk BS from the U.S. military command in Iraq. I don't need it from each and every member of the illegal occupation.

Great, close your nmind to anotehr source of information so you do not have to try and integrate information at odds with your preconceived isdeas.

I continue to argue all is not well in Iraq, but much better than you seem to want to admit. The terrorists have shifted their tactics and are now targeting civilians almost exclusively. Everytime they go straight up against US military, they are killed in droves.

The US occupation is not teh reason why these terrorists are killing civilans. It may be what they SAY and what some news media want to report, but the real reason theseterrorists er murdering Iraqi children and adults is they want power back so they can then murder in the hundreds of thousands like they used to in the "good ol days" of saddam.

OMG

There you go again equating Saddam with "terrorists".

And you have the nerve to accuse me of having a closed mind as you once again not only completely ignore the truth, you continue to repeat know lies.

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: JackStorm

Originally posted by: dphantom
Nevertehless, terroists began the war against us. Now it is up to Bush and his successors inoffice to end it.

Uh huh...You keep saying Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, yet you see nothing wrong with causing a war in which ended up having terrorists come to Iraq to fight US forces.

I bet Iraqis would just love to hear your opinion on how great it is having terrorists blow things up in Iraq instead on where you live. I'm sure they really appreciate you wanting US forces fighting this never ending war on terror in their country.

Would you prefer the terroists killing in your neighborhood?? Or maybe your one of those NIMBYs who could really care less about anyone else as long as your priviledges are safe.

 

[dphantom]

What lies? Didn't Saddam murder hundreds of thousands of his own people? Is that not the act of a terroist on a massive scale??

Or because they were Shiites and Kurds and not Sunni (mostly), it is ok??

 

[BBond]

So since you don't want "terrorists" killing in your neighborhood you justify destroying another nation that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISTS?

Who died and named George W. Bush god? How does he justify attacking a nation on the false pretences of WMD and terrorism when BOTH OF THOSE CHARGES ARE KNOWN TO BE FALSE?

Who gave Bush the authority to declare which nation is the homefield for the "war on terror"? And don't you realize that by making that decision based on lies and attacking a non-terrorist entity like Iraq we became the terrorists?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: dphantom
What lies? Didn't Saddam murder hundreds of thousands of his own people? Is that not the act of a terroist on a massive scale??

Or because they were Shiites and Kurds and not Sunni (mostly), it is ok??

Did Bush's lies cause the deaths of thousands of Iraqi civilians, Shiite, Sunni, and Kurd? Is that not the act of a terrorist on a massive scale?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: dphantom
What lies? Didn't Saddam murder hundreds of thousands of his own people? Is that not the act of a terroist on a massive scale??

He put down rebellions in his own country. Rebellions that were even encouraged by the U.S. yet no assistance was provided and the U.S. even allowed Saddam to fly his helicopters in to mow down the rebels more easily.