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5 suicide blasts leave 60 dead in Iraq

BBond

Diamond Member
While everyone is talking about the dud tossed at the dummy (or is it the dummy tossed at the dud???), Iraq is still in the midst of an "insurgent" offensive created by the dummy, err...the dud?

The U.S. is attempting another offensive near the Syrian border but they can't even maintain control in Baghdad. Bush often risibly tries to explain away the increase in resistance attacks as "desperation" on the part of "insurgents". I wonder, after over two years and no let up in sight, how would Bush characterize the U.S. position since U.S. policy in Iraq mirrors the resistance?

What a complete and total disaster Bush has created in Iraq. It's getting so you can't tell the players without a scorecard.

Here is the latest carnage report from Bush's "The New Iraq"?. And please remember that none of this would have been possible without the lies of George W. Bush.

5 suicide blasts leave 60 dead in Iraq

At least 30 killed in attack on recruitment center

The Associated Press
Updated: 6:37 a.m. ET May 11, 2005

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Five suicide attacks in three cities in Iraq killed more than 60 people Wednesday. In the deadliest, a man with hidden explosives set them off in a line of people outside a police and army recruitment center in northern Iraq, killing 30 and wounding 35, police said.

In Tikrit, meanwhile, a suicide car bomb exploded in a small market near a police station, killing at least 27 people and wounding 75, police said.

Three car bombs also exploded in Baghdad, killing at least four, police said.

Meantime, U.S. forces pushed ahead with a sweep of alleged insurgent bases in a remote region near the border with Syria.

Attack on recruits
Police first thought the powerful blast in Hawija, a small town 150 miles north of Baghdad, was caused by a car bomb, but police Maj. Sarhad Qadir later said they later found it was an attacker waiting in a line of about 150 recruits.

?I was standing near the center and all of a sudden it turned into a scene of dead bodies and pools of blood,? said police Sgt. Khalaf Abbas. ?Windows were blown out in nearby houses, leaving the street covered by glass.? He spoke in an interview from the chaotic scene over his cell phone.

Qadir said 30 people were killed and 35 were wounded, including about 15 who were in critical condition.

Like many other such recruitment centers in Iraq, Hawija?s is located in a building surrounded by cement walls topped with barbed wire in an effort to prevent attacks by car bombs. Men often line up outside such centers early in the morning to apply for jobs at a time of high unemployment in Iraq.

Insurgents target the centers, and Iraqi security forces on patrol, in an effort to block a key goal of U.S. forces: to one day be replaced by newly trained Iraqi soldiers and police.

Swerving into crowd
In Saddam Hussein?s hometown of Tikrit, meanwhile, Police Lt. Col. Saad Daham said that security prevented the car bomb attacker from exploding his vehicle in front of the police station, but that the bomber swerved into a crowd of people at the nearby market.

The bomb exploded at 7:15 a.m., and many day laborers who had traveled to Tikrit from poor areas of Iraq were waiting at the market to be picked up for work at construction sites, Daham said.

He said at least 27 people ? mostly civilians ? were killed and that 75 were wounded. At Tikrit General Hospital, Dr. Faisal Mahmoud said the facility was too small to handle so many casualties.

In Baghdad, three car bombs killed four people and wounded 14, police said.

The worst blast occurred in the southern neighborhood of Dora near a police station, killing three civilians and wounding nine, a police officer said on condition of anonymity.

Marines push into ?difficult? border area
Meantime, capitalizing on a lull in fighting Tuesday, hundreds of U.S. Marines pushed through a lawless region on the Syrian frontier after intense battles along the Euphrates River with well-armed militants fighting from basements, rooftops and sandbag bunkers.

Insurgents also kidnapped the provincial governor as a bargaining chip.

As many as 100 insurgents were killed in the first 48 hours of Operation Matador, as American troops cleared villages along the meandering Euphrates then crossed in rafts and on a pontoon bridge, the U.S. command said. Many of the dead remained trapped under rubble after attack planes and helicopter gunships pounded their hideouts.

At least three Marines were reported killed and 20 wounded during the first three days of the offensive ? the biggest U.S. operation since Fallujah was taken from extremists six months ago.

The operation was launched after U.S. intelligence showed followers of Iraq?s most wanted terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, took refuge in the remote desert region ? a haven for smugglers and insurgent suppliers. The fighters were believed to have fled to Anbar Province after losses in Iraqi cities.

 
Syria, the new Cambodia?


The resistance will continue to attack us and Iraqis working with us as long as the U.S. is present in Iraq.
 
While the news is awful, not all is as bleak as you make it out to be. Suicide bombers are the mark of an insurgency that will eventually fail as it has very little popular support. The essence of the tactic is to cower the general populace to the point where the terrorists can dictate.

Reminds me of Saddams regime, the Tikruit family essentially dominated the rest of the country killing hundreds of thousands to ensure their power.

I think we will continue to see this for the next several years. There was an excellent article a while back and I will try to find the reference about teh German resistance after WWII. Many similarities, police station bombings, political assasinations, etc by fascist zealots. It took several years to bring that under control too.

Bush is on the right course basically. I quibble over details, but I'd rather be killing terrorists over in Iraq than having them fly airplanes into buildings here.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Syria, the new Cambodia?


The resistance will continue to attack us and Iraqis working with us as long as the U.S. is present in Iraq.

Yes, Syria, despite its "official" protestations about not harboring terrorists, is or can be called the next Cambodia. This time, we should finish the job permanently.
 
First, Bush and his disciples have been saying suicide bombers are the mark of desperation for OVER TWO YEARS NOW. That's quite a long time to be desperate and is reminiscent of the fairy tales we were told during Vietnam.

Second, there were no terrorists in Iraq prior to Bush's illegal invasion. Do you think the Iraqi people want their nation blown up becuase Americans don't want planes flying into buildings here when Iraq, HOPEFULLY FOR THE LAST GD TIME, HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE 9/11 ATTACKS!!!

What right did George W. Bush have to make Iraq the homefield in his "war on terror" when Iraq had nothing to do with terror in the first place?

Now we witness daily carnage because bush lied and even after everyone knows they were all lies they keep on parroting the lies just like you. How can you people maintain this fraud?
 
Originally posted by: BBond

Now we witness daily carnage because bush lied and even after everyone knows they were all lies they keep on parroting the lies just like you. How can you people maintain this fraud?

Kool-Aid...LOTS of Kool-Aid! 😀

Their earnings must rival Smiley Mart by now.

 
Originally posted by: BBond
First, Bush and his disciples have been saying suicide bombers are the mark of desperation for OVER TWO YEARS NOW. That's quite a long time to be desperate and is reminiscent of the fairy tales we were told during Vietnam.

Second, there were no terrorists in Iraq prior to Bush's illegal invasion. Do you think the Iraqi people want their nation blown up becuase Americans don't want planes flying into buildings here when Iraq, HOPEFULLY FOR THE LAST GD TIME, HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE 9/11 ATTACKS!!!

What right did George W. Bush have to make Iraq the homefield in his "war on terror" when Iraq had nothing to do with terror in the first place?

Now we witness daily carnage because bush lied and even after everyone knows they were all lies they keep on parroting the lies just like you. How can you people maintain this fraud?

You couldn't be more wrong. There were always training camps there for terrorists. If the power of Sunnis vs. Shi'ites had ever shifted, there would have been terrorist attacks. Hussein had just been ruling for a while, so it was calm.

Further, you would have never heard about anything prior to our invasion because nobody cares about suicide bombers since it happens every day in the eastern world, especially the middle eastern world.

If you know anyone in the army there, talk to them. Or do a search on Google for any of the multiple weblogs maintained by these soldiers. They will paint a real picture of what it's like over there. Don't rely on the media for the news - they don't provide it anymore.
 
Patel,

Did you miss all of those U.S. reports on Iraq? Did you miss the FACT that those reports said there was NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND "TERROR"?

How can you people keep believing the same lies after even the liars themselves admit they are lies?
 
Originally posted by: BBond
Patel,

Did you miss all of those U.S. reports on Iraq? Did you miss the FACT that those reports said there was NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND "TERROR"?

How can you people keep believing the same lies after even the liars themselves admit they are lies?

Call me AJ, but no, I didn't miss those reports.

I also can tell you first-hand that you won't ever be able to understand a muslim country without actually ever going to the East.
 
While the news is awful, not all is as bleak as you make it out to be. Suicide bombers are the mark of an insurgency that will eventually fail as it has very little popular support.

Right, because if one thing is for sure, it is how easily it is to get locals to stop fighting! Just look at recent history; it is riddled with examples!
 
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
Patel,

Did you miss all of those U.S. reports on Iraq? Did you miss the FACT that those reports said there was NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND "TERROR"?

How can you people keep believing the same lies after even the liars themselves admit they are lies?

Call me AJ, but no, I didn't miss those reports.

I also can tell you first-hand that you won't ever be able to understand a muslim country without actually ever going to the East.
Actually there were terrorist camps in Iraq prior to us invading Iraq. Granted they were in the Northern Region that was under Kurdish Control, not Hussiens.

 
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
Patel,

Did you miss all of those U.S. reports on Iraq? Did you miss the FACT that those reports said there was NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND "TERROR"?

How can you people keep believing the same lies after even the liars themselves admit they are lies?

Call me AJ, but no, I didn't miss those reports.

I also can tell you first-hand that you won't ever be able to understand a muslim country without actually ever going to the East.

AJ,

If you didn't miss the reports how can you maintain your erroneous conclusions?

Whether or not I understand Muslim countries I do understand the U.S. and what Bush is doing to Muslim countries.

Here's another example that seems to prove that while I may not understand Muslim countries, Muslims know what Bush is doing too.

2 Afghans killed in anti-U.S. protests

The Associated Press
Updated: 7:23 a.m. ET May 11, 2005

KABUL, Afghanistan - Police and U.S. troops opened fire in an eastern Afghan city to control hundreds of students rioting over the alleged desecration of Islam?s holy book at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. At least two protesters were killed and more than 50 injured, officials said.

Shouting ?Death to America,? the demonstrators smashed car and shop windows and stoned a passing convoy of American soldiers in the city of Jalalabad, near the Pakistan border. Mobs also attacked the Pakistani consulate and the office of a Swedish relief organization. No foreigners were reported hurt.

?They are very angry and are spread over all over the city,? provincial intelligence chief Sardar Shah told The Associated Press. ?There are police, army and Americans shooting into the air. ... We?ve tried to get control but I think it is impossible.?

At one point, students threw stones at a group of American military vehicles, officials said. U.S. troops fired into the air before quickly leaving the area, Shah said. A U.S. military spokeswoman in Kabul had no comment.

An Associated Press Television News cameraman said the crowds grew larger and wilder after the firing and that the streets were deserted of traffic. Mobs pelted a government office and the local television station with rocks and tore down posters of President Hamid Karzai.

Aid staff take refuge
The Swedish Committee for Afghanistan, one of the largest aid organizations in the country, said staff at its Jalalabad office took refuge on the roof as a mob stole, smashed or burned their equipment and torched two of their cars.

Murat Khan, Pakistan?s deputy counselor, said the consulate building as well as his boss? residence were in flames.

People broke into two U.N. compounds and burned two cars, a U.N. spokeswoman said. The situation appeared calmer by early afternoon, she said.

Deputy health chief Mohammed Ayub Shinwari said two protesters were fatally shot and that 57 were being treated at hospitals, many with gunshot wounds.

University and high school students held similar but peaceful protests in cities in neighboring Laghman province and Khost, further to the south.

U.S. to probe charges
The demonstrations began Tuesday, when protesters burned an effigy of President Bush over a report in Newsweek magazine that interrogators at Guantanamo Bay placed Qurans on toilets in order to rattle suspects, and in at least one case ?flushed a holy book down the toilet.?

In Washington, the State Department said the allegations of desecration were ?certainly serious and it would be important to have them be looked into.?

?Obviously, the destruction of any kind of holy book, whether it?s a Bible or a Quran or any other document like that, is something that?s reprehensible and not in keeping with U.S. policies and practices,? State Department spokesman Tom Casey said.

Witnesses said students also demanded the release of all prisoners from Guantanamo, and that ?American troops don?t stay in Afghanistan forever? ? tricky issues likely to be discussed when Karzai meets Bush in Washington later this month.

The government of neighboring Pakistan ? like Afghanistan, a conservative Muslim nation and close ally in Washington?s war on terrorism ? on Saturday said it was ?deeply dismayed? over the magazine report and called for an inquiry.

A coalition of hardline Islamic parties in Pakistan said it will hold nationwide protests on Friday, the traditional day of prayer for Muslims.

The United States is holding about 520 people at Guantanamo Bay, many of them al-Qaida and Taliban suspects captured in Pakistan and Afghanistan following the Sept. 11 attacks in America.

Wake up AJ. Recognize the lies.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
Patel,

Did you miss all of those U.S. reports on Iraq? Did you miss the FACT that those reports said there was NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND "TERROR"?

How can you people keep believing the same lies after even the liars themselves admit they are lies?

Call me AJ, but no, I didn't miss those reports.

I also can tell you first-hand that you won't ever be able to understand a muslim country without actually ever going to the East.
Actually there were terrorist camps in Iraq prior to us invading Iraq. Granted they were in the Northern Region that was under Kurdish Control, not Hussiens.

If the control had ever shifted even slightly, then you would have seen terrorists there, executing suicide bombings. That's what I'm saying.
 
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
Patel,

Did you miss all of those U.S. reports on Iraq? Did you miss the FACT that those reports said there was NO CONNECTION BETWEEN SADDAM AND "TERROR"?

How can you people keep believing the same lies after even the liars themselves admit they are lies?

Call me AJ, but no, I didn't miss those reports.

I also can tell you first-hand that you won't ever be able to understand a muslim country without actually ever going to the East.
Actually there were terrorist camps in Iraq prior to us invading Iraq. Granted they were in the Northern Region that was under Kurdish Control, not Hussiens.

If the control had ever shifted even slightly, then you would have seen terrorists there, executing suicide bombings. That's what I'm saying.

If is a big word.

If Saddam had WMD.

They were all lies. Get it?
 
Originally posted by: BBond

AJ,

If you didn't miss the reports how can you maintain your erroneous conclusions?

Whether or not I understand Muslim countries I do understand the U.S. and what Bush is doing to Muslim countries.

Here's another example that seems to prove that while I may not understand Muslim countries, Muslims know what Bush is doing too.

Wake up AJ. Recognize the lies.

There is so much that goes unreported that you have to gather from soldiers' first-hand reports or from people that actually live there.

Originally posted by: BBond

If is a big word.

If Saddam had WMD.

They were all lies. Get it?
I'm saying there were terrorists there - you think it was a stable region and we disturbed it, but you don't even know part of the story.
 
Originally posted by: AJPatel

There is so much that goes unreported that you have to gather from soldiers' first-hand reports or from people that actually live there.

I'm saying there were terrorists there - you think it was a stable region and we disturbed it, but you don't even know part of the story.[/quote]

Why don't you enlighten me instead of telling me how much I don't know?

Saddam had no connection with "terror". I'll rely on the U.S. reports I've read rather than your obviously tainted opinion.
 
Originally posted by: BBond

Why don't you enlighten me instead of telling me how much I don't know?

Saddam had no connection with "terror". I'll rely on the U.S. reports I've read rather than your obviously tainted opinion.

It's up to you to read all these alternate sources of news. I could care less one way or another. I am just pointing out that you are not fully informed.
 
AJ,

I read more alternate news sources in a day than you read in a month. Don't try to tell me I'm not aware of what is happening when, even after reading contradictory conclusions from every U.S. report, you still believe Saddam supported terrorists.

What do yo consider an alternate news source? FOX NEWS?
 
Originally posted by: BBond
AJ,

I read more alternate news sources in a day than you read in a month. Don't try to tell me I'm not aware of what is happening when, even after reading contradictory conclusions from every U.S. report, you still believe Saddam supported terrorists.

What do yo consider an alternate news source? FOX NEWS?

haha don't get your panties in a wad.

think what you'd like - can't expect much more out of people like you.
 
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
AJ,

I read more alternate news sources in a day than you read in a month. Don't try to tell me I'm not aware of what is happening when, even after reading contradictory conclusions from every U.S. report, you still believe Saddam supported terrorists.

What do yo consider an alternate news source? FOX NEWS?

haha don't get your panties in a wad.

think what you'd like - can't expect much more out of people like you.

Offer up evidence of your opinion or please stop trolling.
 
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.
 
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
AJ,

I read more alternate news sources in a day than you read in a month. Don't try to tell me I'm not aware of what is happening when, even after reading contradictory conclusions from every U.S. report, you still believe Saddam supported terrorists.

What do yo consider an alternate news source? FOX NEWS?

haha don't get your panties in a wad.

think what you'd like - can't expect much more out of people like you.

Offer up evidence of your opinion or please stop trolling.


Can you believe the nerve of this guy? He's telling me I don't know what's happening as he completely ignores the facts and insists on repeating KNOWN LIES.

Yeah, I trust your sources AJ. Like I trust Bush.
 
Originally posted by: BBond
AJ,

I read more alternate news sources in a day than you read in a month. Don't try to tell me I'm not aware of what is happening when, even after reading contradictory conclusions from every U.S. report, you still believe Saddam supported terrorists.

What do yo consider an alternate news source? FOX NEWS?

Yes! :thumbsup:

But not the only one. NY Times, Post even NBC among many many others.
 
Originally posted by: dphantom
I never asserted a connection between Iraq and 9-11. There isn't one. However, the terrorists have made Iraq a frontline for tehir war and I would prefer us fighting there than here.

There always were terrorist camps in Iraq. Kurdish areas in particular and a heavy smuggling operation over the Syrian/saudi border. Iraq was and is a nice transit point across the middle east.

The Bush "lies" as you say have been voiced by preceding administrations. I see no illegality in the attack at all. How could there be when the US and 2 dozen+ countries upheld UN resolutions??

So what about 2 years. It took japan almost 6 years (I believe) before they even got to teh point Iraq is today. Germany very similar. I have a great deal of confidenc in the Iraqi's ability to control there country given the necessary time, tools and training.

You hee very little about teh southern and northern areas of teh country becauwee tehy are peaceful. The problem lies in the predominant Sunni areas that were the rulers by murder during Saddams dictatorship and are now the ones trying to regain power. I would prefer they not becasue the killings of today will pale before the wholesale slaughter of tomorrow if these terrorsits ever do gain power.

D00D

Please WTFU. Terrorists made Iraq the frontline of "their war"???

Are you insane???

BUSH MADE IRAQ THE FRONTLINE OF HIS WAR. WHAT GAVE THIS LIAR THE RIGHT AND WHEN ARE AMERICANS GOING TO REALIZE THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE GREAT LIE TOLD IN THEIR NAMES???
 
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: AJPatel
Originally posted by: BBond
AJ,

I read more alternate news sources in a day than you read in a month. Don't try to tell me I'm not aware of what is happening when, even after reading contradictory conclusions from every U.S. report, you still believe Saddam supported terrorists.

What do yo consider an alternate news source? FOX NEWS?

haha don't get your panties in a wad.

think what you'd like - can't expect much more out of people like you.

Offer up evidence of your opinion or please stop trolling.


Can you believe the nerve of this guy? He's telling me I don't know what's happening as he completely ignores the facts and insists on repeating KNOWN LIES.

Yeah, I trust your sources AJ. Like I trust Bush.

Better Bush than Clinton anyday. At least he doesn't argue over what "is" is. 😀
 
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