5/17 UPDATE -- Florida Senate: Rubio 39%, Crist 31%, Meek 18%

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Fear No Evil

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It wasn't like the Republican party abandoned him, the VOTERS abandoned him, and the R's decided to throw their support behind the guy who was winning in the polls. If Rubio wasn't so popular (And believe me, he IS, I live here) Crist would still be the R candidate. Its not the party pushing to the right, its the VOTERS.
 

Vette73

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It wasn't like the Republican party abandoned him, the VOTERS abandoned him, and the R's decided to throw their support behind the guy who was winning in the polls. If Rubio wasn't so popular (And believe me, he IS, I live here) Crist would still be the R candidate. Its not the party pushing to the right, its the VOTERS.


Primary is a very SMALL part of the overall voters. Mostly run by the higher party people. So a primary does not make "Voters", it makes a very small part of that party.
 

Mani

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Funny how everybody wants a third party person that is not beholden to anybody. They get it in FL and what happens, the "conservatives" turn tail and start the “He is just a RINO…”, “He will do whatever Obama says…” etc… I am sure the Dems are trying some of the same BS like “He’s really a republican vote Dem not one of the 2 R’s...”

This is why 3rd party people have a hard time, when the party pullers on the far right/left just attack them for no other reason than they do not have a D/R beside their name. If I lived in FL I probable vote for him.

If the people of FL were smart they elect him. That way he can get on good panels since the party in power will need every vote they can get so they will kiss his azz like liberman.

Anyone without a partisan agenda should be in favor of this. The 2-party system is currently one of the biggest problems facing this country - any beloved patriot in that armor, even a small one like this - is a good thing.
 

Fear No Evil

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Primary is a very SMALL part of the overall voters. Mostly run by the higher party people. So a primary does not make "Voters", it makes a very small part of that party.

Except here's the problem with what you are saying. The primary hasn't happened yet. Crist is getting destoyed in POLLS.
 

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Except here's the problem with what you are saying. The primary hasn't happened yet. Crist is getting destoyed in POLLS.


Yea to bad Crists number went way up AFTER he left the Rep. party.

"The survey of likely voters shows the Crist with 38% support, Republican Marco Rubio with 34% and Rep. Kendrick Meek, the leading Democrat, with 17%. The undecideds account for 11%. Just two weeks ago, Crist’s support was at 30%, trailing Rubio, the favorite of the tea party movement, by seven percentage points."

How do you like those polls.

But hey, at least a Bush has come out in support of Rubio, that should help... someone. :hmm:


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/...gains-after-bolting-gop-jeb-bush-backs-rubio/
 

Lemon law

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Its going to be a very interesting question come the General election. Will the Florida dems support Crist, and set up a Lieberman type scenario where an independent can win, or will they rally big time around Meeks, setting up a situation where Crist pulls votes from Rubio, making a Meeks election more likely.

We can bet the national democratic and Republican parties will invest big bucks in this Florida election, maybe leaving Crist at an advertising dollar disadvantage.
 

RedChief

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Yea to bad Crists number went way up AFTER he left the Rep. party.

"The survey of likely voters shows the Crist with 38% support, Republican Marco Rubio with 34% and Rep. Kendrick Meek, the leading Democrat, with 17%. The undecideds account for 11%. Just two weeks ago, Crist’s support was at 30%, trailing Rubio, the favorite of the tea party movement, by seven percentage points."

How do you like those polls.

But hey, at least a Bush has come out in support of Rubio, that should help... someone. :hmm:


http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/...gains-after-bolting-gop-jeb-bush-backs-rubio/


And two weeks later Crist's bounce has vanished.
 

theeedude

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Crist should pledge to caucus with Democrats, and Meek should pull out and endorse him.
 

Lemon law

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Not only do I agree that a primary is seldom the vote of the people, because it more the product of the most organized people. but the other thing to point out is that its simply not productive to track this Crist, Rubio, and Meeks race week by agonizing week.

Simply because the campaigns are all on summer vacations now, little ad money is being spent now as everyone saves their pennies, nickels, and dimes, for the fall. And because the country may look different then, and because of all the ad blitzes, poll numbers are unlikely to get volatile until then.
 

ayabe

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Crist is done dealing with the nutters and doesn't have to toe any party lines now.

Can't wait for the epic veto that's forthcoming for that wingnut shit they rammed through the house in the middle of night requiring ultrasounds before allowing someone to have an abortion.

Rubio also has some ongoing ethics problems so we'll see how that pans out.
 

Double Trouble

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Crist should pledge to caucus with Democrats, and Meek should pull out and endorse him.

He left the republicans because he didn't like the right wing element, why the hell would he switch to the democrats and have to deal with the loony left? He's much better off just staying independent so he can be his own man instead of some party stooge.
 

Vette73

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He left the republicans because he didn't like the right wing element, why the hell would he switch to the democrats and have to deal with the loony left? He's much better off just staying independent so he can be his own man instead of some party stooge.


Not only that but when/if he gets to the senate he can platy both sides for good commite post. If the Dems are right at the control number (50) they need him. If the Rep get enar the cobtrol number (51) they need him.

FL would be dumb not to elect him if they want the best for their state. The D/R running will not have anymore power then a freshman, but Crist would have a lot of sway with both parties and get more support for FL.
 

QuantumPion

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I find it funny that any Republican who doesn't have the blessing of Tea Partiers is considered a RINO.

I guess it's excommunication of the heathens.



I think you are confusing cause and effect.


What, specifically, makes you think that?

Certain Republicans are RINO's because they vote with Democrats, and the consequence being that they lose favor with the TEA parties. They aren't RINO's because they lack the TEA parties endorsement, the lack of endorsement is because of their voting record.
 

Vette73

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UPDATE

Poll: Crist still on top in 3-way contest

The third straight non-partisan poll conducted since Gov. Charlie Crist announced that he would run as a independent in his big for Florida's open Senate seat indicates that the governor remains in the lead in a three way battle.
According to a Quinnipiac University survey released Wednesday, 37 percent of registered Sunshine state voters back Crist, with 33 percent supporting Marco Rubio, the former Florida House speaker and the presumptive Republican nominee, and 17 percent backing Democratic Rep. Kendrick Meek.


Crist still on top. The to Dems (primary is in August) are barly showing up in polls.