5/17 UPDATE -- Florida Senate: Rubio 39%, Crist 31%, Meek 18%

nick1985

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...lections/florida/election_2010_florida_senate

Florida Senate: Rubio 39%, Crist 31%, Meek 18%

Interesting to say the least. Perhaps many Democrats are going to Crist to try to avoid Rubio being elected?


5/17/10

Florida Senate: Rubio 39%, Crist 31%, Meek 18%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...florida_senate

8/11/10

Florida Senate: Rubio (R) 38%, Crist (I) 33%, Meek (D) 21%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...lections/florida/election_2010_florida_senate

8/26/10

Florida Senate: Rubio (R) 40%, Crist (I) 30%, Meek (D) 21%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...lections/florida/election_2010_florida_senate
 
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cubby1223

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The interesting thing is that the Democrat is still projected to lose big in a 3-way race!
 

Genx87

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Hilarious if true. Democrats voting for the white guy to deny the Hispanic a senate seat.
 

cubby1223

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Why exactly is that funny?

shouldn't be funny, but you know there will be "progressives" playing the race card this whole campaign, trying to pin only the old white males as racist.

I didn't even know Meek was Hispanic, only that he is the Democrat and has such low polling numbers, which I think is good just because I don't like the "progressive" agenda for this country. Which is also why I'd rather see Rubio win, but that is up to the voters of Florida who they want to represent them.
 

Hacp

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shouldn't be funny, but you know there will be "progressives" playing the race card this whole campaign, trying to pin only the old white males as racist.

I didn't even know Meek was Hispanic, only that he is the Democrat and has such low polling numbers, which I think is good just because I don't like the "progressive" agenda for this country.

Rubio is the hispanic dude.
 

Fern

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...lections/florida/election_2010_florida_senate


Interesting to say the least. Perhaps many Democrats are going to Crist to try to avoid Rubio being elected?

The interesting thing is that the Democrat is still projected to lose big in a 3-way race!

Yes.

I look at this in the context of the TEA Party and all the discussion of how they were predicted to affect the elections, particularly as regards the Repubs.

It's been thought that the TEA Party might not find the Repub candidate conservative enough and therefore support a independant candidate more to there liking. It's been predicted this would split the conservative vote giving the election to the Democratic candidate.

Well, contrary to that conventional wisdom, it's the more TEA Party-like candidate who is taking the Repub nomination leaving the RINO to run as an independant candidate (instead of vice-versa).

And as cubby points out, even with the conservative vote split the Dem still won't win.
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I have some trouble seeing Crist win. Seems to me he's burned the Repub 'bridges' so badly he'd end up caucusing with the Dems if he makes it into the US Senate. I.e., it's looking more-n-more like there's two Dem candidates. Under the current (and expected) climate I have trouble seeing FL go Democratic in the upcoming election.

Fern
 

Lemon law

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Not to hijack this thread, but I noticed in my neck of the woods, that the republicans contenders in the GOP primaries have all heavily advertised billing themselves as more conservative than thou, as a knee jerk general consensus, that moderates and liberals of all political stripes will automatically associate that "truly conservative" equals the best choice in May and November.

We need only go back to the GOP POTUS field of 2008, heavily dominated by conservatives, to see that "conservative" did not exactly sell in even the GOP primaries.

As for the Florida Senate race, early polls usually do not pan out, but since Meeks, Rubio, and Crist will be ballot in November, its not as binding as other GOP primaries, where only one candidate will receive the official GOP party nomination.

And since the polls have not closed yet where I am, it will be my tomorrow work to see if "conservative" sold in my Peoria.
 

Fern

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-snip-
We need only go back to the GOP POTUS field of 2008, heavily dominated by conservatives, to see that "conservative" did not exactly sell in even the GOP primaries.

Who exactly were the big "conservatives" in the GOP POTUS primary?

Huckabee?
He's a social conservative, but wasn't considered a fiscal conservative at that time.

Romney?
Did many people feel they actually knew what he was?

Ron Paul?
In many ways I suppose he is a conservative, but given his eccentricities trying to draw any conclusions from his votes is questionable at best.

(McCain won the nomination so you can't be referring to him.)

Big CONSERVATIVE in 2008 GOP POTUS primaries not found, IMO.

Fern
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Perhaps, just perhaps, this is a sign of people being fed up with both parties. I hope so.
 

xj0hnx

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We need only go back to the GOP POTUS field of 2008, heavily dominated by conservatives, to see that "conservative" did not exactly sell in even the GOP primaries.

That's so funny it needed to be quoted. Are you kidding?

Fern said:
Huckabee?
He's a social conservative, but wasn't considered a fiscal conservative at that time.

Is he considered one now?
 

cubeless

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does no one know that meeks is black? bo ought to be down here pumpin' the bro... seems a little odd that the guy who took fl from the reps ain't popular enough to even get the local dem in the race (although most locals say christ is really the dem in the race)...
 

Lemon law

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does no one know that meeks is black? bo ought to be down here pumpin' the bro... seems a little odd that the guy who took fl from the reps ain't popular enough to even get the local dem in the race (although most locals say christ is really the dem in the race)...
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As the wicked witch of the East or was it the wicked witch of the West in the Wiz of oz said, all in good time my pretty and yer little dog too.

Its Crist and Rubio who are getting the national press Florida attention right now, but dimocrats are still a majority of Florida voters, and you can bet your sweet bippee that Meeks will poll far more than 17% come the General election. Rubio is probably at his polling high of 34% now, and has no where to go but down from now on.

Of course I could be wrong, but I somehow doubt that Rubio will come up with that magic pail of water that will make Crist and Meeks say, We are melting, we are melting.
 

werepossum

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Yes.

I look at this in the context of the TEA Party and all the discussion of how they were predicted to affect the elections, particularly as regards the Repubs.

It's been thought that the TEA Party might not find the Repub candidate conservative enough and therefore support a independant candidate more to there liking. It's been predicted this would split the conservative vote giving the election to the Democratic candidate.

Well, contrary to that conventional wisdom, it's the more TEA Party-like candidate who is taking the Repub nomination leaving the RINO to run as an independant candidate (instead of vice-versa).

And as cubby points out, even with the conservative vote split the Dem still won't win.
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I have some trouble seeing Crist win. Seems to me he's burned the Repub 'bridges' so badly he'd end up caucusing with the Dems if he makes it into the US Senate. I.e., it's looking more-n-more like there's two Dem candidates. Under the current (and expected) climate I have trouble seeing FL go Democratic in the upcoming election.

Fern

Sadly the Dems don't have to win, because in Crist they have a RINO who will support everything Obama wants until close to his re-election.

I did not know Meeks was black because most of my news comes from the Internet or radio, neither of which has color, height, or attractiveness. That's a good thing IMO.
 

Thump553

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Primaries almost always have a low turnout and are easily influenced by a small but activist fringe element. It is quite possible the GOP's courting of the Tea Baggers will leave them with nominated candidates unacceptable to the great majority of the general electorate.

BTW, keep using the term RINO, I love it as it encompasses Abraham Lincoln, Teddie Roosevelt, Eisenhower and nearly every other historical Republican of any true national prominence and thus contributes to the marginalization of the modern GOP.
 

Vette73

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Funny how everybody wants a third party person that is not beholden to anybody. They get it in FL and what happens, the "conservatives" turn tail and start the “He is just a RINO…”, “He will do whatever Obama says…” etc… I am sure the Dems are trying some of the same BS like “He’s really a republican vote Dem not one of the 2 R’s...”

This is why 3rd party people have a hard time, when the party pullers on the far right/left just attack them for no other reason than they do not have a D/R beside their name. If I lived in FL I probable vote for him.

If the people of FL were smart they elect him. That way he can get on good panels since the party in power will need every vote they can get so they will kiss his azz like liberman.
 

zsdersw

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I find it funny that any Republican who doesn't have the blessing of Tea Partiers is considered a RINO.

I guess it's excommunication of the heathens.
 

nageov3t

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I have some trouble seeing Crist win. Seems to me he's burned the Repub 'bridges' so badly he'd end up caucusing with the Dems if he makes it into the US Senate. I.e., it's looking more-n-more like there's two Dem candidates. Under the current (and expected) climate I have trouble seeing FL go Democratic in the upcoming election.

Fern
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally, not a 20 percent traitor."

the democrats stabbed Lieberman in the back and twisted the knife; if he could get over that, I'm sure Crist and the GOP will find a way to reconcile their 20% differences.