5.0 is Confirmed

[MBrown]

It's back. With 412hp and weighing much less than the Camaro and Challenger this is going to be hard to beat.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/2011-ford-mustang-gt-to-offer-412-horsepower-5-0l-v8/

First Videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlR8hbpkHkw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwvLEx10KgE&feature=player_embedded

 

[LTC8K6]

Looks like Ford has Chevy beaten with the V6 and V8 versions.

 

[zerocool84]

But this makes me wonder if they are going to raise the price on it. GT's have always been priced well but this makes me think they might raise the price on it. Hopefully not.

 

[Pariah]

Rollin' in my 5.0
With my rag-top down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby waving just to say hi
Did you stop no I just drove by

I hope they reasonbly increase the price over the current models. Knowing how many million Mustangs I see a day. I would feel quite uneasy having that many people on the road with that kind of HP who have no idea how to handle it.

 

[CurseTheSky]

That blue illuminated "Mustang" in the center console needs to go. Tacky.

The interior as a whole looks decent, but something about the way they clustered the buttons below the nav unit reminds me of a car from the 80s.

Does this still come with a 5 speed, or is there an optional 6 speed?

Those are my only complaints. It looks like it's going to be a great car, and really tough to beat. Too bad I can't afford one.

I wonder if the 5.0 has any relation at all to it's predecessor, or if it'll be an all aluminum, DOHC design like the 4.6L.

 

[CurseTheSky]

Rollin' in my 5.0
With my rag-top down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby waving just to say hi
Did you stop no I just drove by

I hope they reasonbly increase the price over the current models. Knowing how many million Mustangs I see a day. I would feel quite uneasy having that many people on the road with that kind of HP who have no idea how to handle it.

Eh, you can do just as many stupid things with 315 HP as you can with 412. With almost 100 more, you can just do those stupid things a bit faster.

Most of the Mustangs I see on the road are V6's anyway. The increased V6 power is what scares me.

 

[Pariah]

The thought really applies to both models. There's no way on earth Ford can be dumb enough to release the V6 at the current $21k base price. They need to bump the V6 up to the current GT price and the 5.0 into the low 30's, and then release a 4 cylinder or something at the $20k price point for the secretaries and daddy's little girl going off to college. If not, we're all going to be footing the insurance bills.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I wish they would do a right hand drive version and sell it in the UK. This is one American born Ford Brits would buy. However, that being said, you cannot sell that thing without a 6 speed 'box.

 

[alkemyst]

Eh, you can do just as many stupid things with 315 HP as you can with 412. With almost 100 more, you can just do those stupid things a bit faster.

Most of the Mustangs I see on the road are V6's anyway. The increased V6 power is what scares me.

plus all the cars today are roughly 500-1000lbs heavier than in the late 90's-2004 or so.

They are also getting geared more conservatively.

 

[LTC8K6]

Both the 305HP V6 and 412HP V8 will have 6 speed MT available. The Coyote V8 is an all new DOHC engine as far as the reports go. It's lighter than the 4.6L V8.

 

[ayabe]

Well 412 is better than 400, would love to see a dyno, all in good time I suppose.

Hopefully there will be a lot more changes to unveil, Ford is really on a roll.

 

[AMCRambler]

I don't know how impressed I can be considering both Chevy and Dodge have been making their muscle cars with 400+ for over a year now. It's more like, what took you so long Ford? Seems like they're just catching up to where everyone else has been. If they keep the price where it is, then that's something to be impressed with, but otherwise meh.

 

[BW86]

about time

 

[LTC8K6]

I don't know how impressed I can be considering both Chevy and Dodge have been making their muscle cars with 400+ for over a year now. It's more like, what took you so long Ford? Seems like they're just catching up to where everyone else has been. If they keep the price where it is, then that's something to be impressed with, but otherwise meh.

The Mustang is lighter, though. I think we are going to see that lighter is more important. The current Mustang is a whopping 3-400 pounds lighter than the current Camaro, for example. The bloat of GM and Chrysler has always hampered them so that they needed the extra HP.

 

[AMCRambler]

The Mustang is lighter, though. I think we are going to see that lighter is more important. The current Mustang is a whopping 3-400 pounds lighter than the current Camaro, for example. The bloat of GM and Chrysler has always hampered them so that they needed the extra HP.

Light is good, to a point. It will improve handling and cornering, but if there's no weight over the wheels the car won't get enough traction to use that horsepower. It's a balance, that's for sure.

 

[AdamK47]

Ford is going to put an actual engine in the car this time? There are going to be a lot of unemployed hamsters.

 

[MetalMat]

The thought really applies to both models. There's no way on earth Ford can be dumb enough to release the V6 at the current $21k base price. They need to bump the V6 up to the current GT price and the 5.0 into the low 30's, and then release a 4 cylinder or something at the $20k price point for the secretaries and daddy's little girl going off to college. If not, we're all going to be footing the insurance bills.

No Way, they should not release a 4 cylinder. No wayyyyyyy. Remember back when they tried that in the 90s? Its the same point as the low end Dodge Chargers, they should have never made the 2.7L models. The lowest should have been the 3.5L.

 

[LTC8K6]

Light is good, to a point. It will improve handling and cornering, but if there's no weight over the wheels the car won't get enough traction to use that horsepower. It's a balance, that's for sure.

The Coyote is supposedly lighter than the 4.6L, so maybe that will help with weight distribution.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Light is good, to a point. It will improve handling and cornering, but if there's no weight over the wheels the car won't get enough traction to use that horsepower. It's a balance, that's for sure.

At 3,500 pounds, the Mustang GT has more than enough weight. At over 4,000 pounds, the Challenger is simply a fat pig and at 3,750 pounds the Camaro is pretty obviously overweight.

ZV

 

[AMCRambler]

They're all rear wheel drive and most of the weight is over the front wheels. If the tires of the lighter car can't grab, the heavier car will win every time in a straight line race. Of course they're hauling around more weight though. I think with street tires, the extra weight gives them the advantage. With slicks the new Stang would probably smoke them. What do you think Z?

 

[DivideBYZero]

No Way, they should not release a 4 cylinder. No wayyyyyyy. Remember back when they tried that in the 90s? Its the same point as the low end Dodge Chargers, they should have never made the 2.7L models. The lowest should have been the 3.5L.

What would be wrong with a 250hp 4 Cylinder to replace the old V6?

 

[yh125d]

I don't know how impressed I can be considering both Chevy and Dodge have been making their muscle cars with 400+ for over a year now. It's more like, what took you so long Ford? Seems like they're just catching up to where everyone else has been. If they keep the price where it is, then that's something to be impressed with, but otherwise meh.

I think the delay is partially due to the energy Ford has put into improving their nromal road cars, whereas Chevy/Dodge (mostly dodge) err, haven't as much

 

[Zenmervolt]

They're all rear wheel drive and most of the weight is over the front wheels. If the tires of the lighter car can't grab, the heavier car will win every time in a straight line race. Of course they're hauling around more weight though. I think with street tires, the extra weight gives them the advantage. With slicks the new Stang would probably smoke them. What do you think Z?

The Mustang's weight distribution is 53.9/46.1, a little front-heavy, but not in any way ridiculous. Given that weight transfers rearward under acceleration this becomes even less of an issue. There is absolutely no way that a 3,500 pound car is too light to get good traction, not even with the Mustang's weight distribution and street tires.

ZV

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

It's about time Ford stepped up their game in the Pony market. GM has been putting out cars making 400HP for a few years now. The 6L GTO's, FireHawks ect. Now that Ford has shot it's wad, GM can counter. That's the way it is. One company comes out with something, and the rest follow suit.

 

[ayabe]

More leaks courtesy of Autoblog:

"AutoWeek has decided to let the cat get just a little bit further out of the bag this morning following last night's first bit of embargo breakage regarding the 2011 Ford Mustang GT and its 5.0-liter V8 engine. So, by now you've heard that the new powerplant puts out 412 ponies, or 83 horsepower-per-liter. Now, AW wants you to know it also offers up 390 pound-feet of torque and that peak power comes at a screaming 6,500 RPM.

The new powertrain combination will also return 25 miles per gallon, says AW. How does it manage this feat? With an aluminum engine block with cast cylinder sleeves and brand-new heads with four valves per cylinder, vertical intake ports and twin independent variable valve timing. Don't forget the tuned exhaust headers, a forged steel crankshaft with four-bolt main bearings plus new pistons and connecting rods.

And what about the transmission? Your choice of either the 6R80 automatic transmission or the MT82 six-speed manual. We now return you to your regularly-scheduled programming... until the next bit of embargo breakage, of course."