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4th-Grade Girl: Teacher Threatened Me

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Whose side would you take in this one, the teachers or the students?


4th-Grade Girl: Teacher Threatened Me
Lake County Teacher Under Investigation After Outburst

POSTEd Tuesday, October 12, 2010
UPDATEd 11:38 am EDT October 13, 2010

MOUNT DORA, Fla. -- A Lake County elementary school teacher is under investigation after reprimanding a fourth-grade girl for calling him "teach."

Harold Nelson, 53, is accused of telling 9-year-old Triangle Elementary student Jamiel Bostic that she might leave "crying to her mother" because of her "disrespectful" comment, according to a Mount Dora police report.

"Every time I think about it, it makes me cry," said Jamiel, who added that she gets a lot of A's and loves going to school. She said she's afraid to go back to a tutoring program following the after-school confrontation with Nelson, who teaches math.Jamiel said the confrontation began after school on Friday when she said, "So what are we doing today, teach?"

"He reacted by turning around and was kind of fierce-looking. He said, 'If you call me 'teach' again, I'll have your head spinning until you're crying home to your mother,'"

Jamiel said.Her grandmother, Laverne Chisem, filed a report with the Mount Dora Police Department after learning about the encounter.

According to the police report, Nelson said he told her "the consequences could make her head swim" and that might leave her "crying to her mother."

Police do no plan to press charges.

Jamiel refuses to return to the tutoring program.

"It came to me as a threat," she said. "It came to me as a real threat."She also said she has no idea why saying "teach" would be disrespectful and it was only her first time in his Friday after-school class.Chisem said Nelson's explanation in a phone call to her husband made her even more uneasy.

"Mr. Nelson told him, 'Yes, I did say that, I was wrong. I should have said that in a respectful way, a different way.' Then he said that he had been in the Army and he was having flashbacks," said Chisem. "I don't think he needs to be teaching. You cannot threaten a child with those kind of words. I'm taking it as a threat. My baby's scared.

"A Lake County School District spokesman said the district's investigation could wrap up Wednesday after the other students in the class explain what they saw and heard.

"Mr. Nelson is an excellent teacher and he did not intend to threaten anyone," the district said.
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When I was in 6th grade my math teacher took me out of the class room and shoved me into the wall. Told me to stop fucking around in class and take it serious because I was to bright to be fucking around. I told her "I could get you fired for this" she said "I don't care." So I just let it be.
 
I'd side with teach.

That girl is a moron. Her mother probably is the one really blowing it out of proportion and getting her kid to do the same.
 
While the teacher shouldn't have said that the fact that anybody outside the school even cares about this is ridiculous. The parent should complain to the school, the school should talk to the teacher, and as long as this isn't some kind of recurring problem it should end at that.

I hate how the news blows things out of proportion.
 
A little from column A, a little from column B. It's really so hard to say unless you were there to hear the exchange, but what he said to the Dad, if true, is a bit disconcerting.

A lot of kids seem to be pussies these days though; some of our teachers used to scream and yell at us and it was no big deal. /shrug

KT
 
Dude may have over reacted, but when I was a kid if that happened to me just mentioning it to my Parents would have just got me in trouble with them. lol
 
I don't see how the girl is really at fault. That sentence sounds casual, but not really disrespectful. I don't think the teacher should get in trouble, but that's really no way to react to a fourth grader.
 
Stories like this make me sick ... everyone is a victim.

I'm so glad my kids are grown and I do not have to deal with crap like this ...
 
I blame the press for reporting such a lame story. Big fucking deal if the kid called the teacher teach and the teach got pissed. Whooptyfuckindo.....
 
Once again foolish liberal parents are allowing their children to get away with disrespect, instead of properly disciplining them. This kind of parenting is contributing to the downfall of America. Everyone knows this.
 
You people are bunch of fucking idiots, not even joking.

RESPECT for a teacher is in knowing you can speak to the teacher on a friendly basis, the kid obviously had a respect for their teacher because it crossed that line from "authoritarian" to "friend." The kid was being friendly with the teacher, this is how you create a healthy teaching environment, not through ruler slapping, collared shirt wearing pricks who make you call their "sir" or "mister."

The teacher had NO respect for his student. NONE. A teacher's job is to keep the environment positive and CIVIL and if the student was doing something wrong, it's the teacher's job to CORRECT them not THREATEN them. More important, correct them without severing the bond of trust and friendship between the teacher and student. Because if you sever that, you sever the attention of the student and sever the desire to learn. School shouldn't be a prison.

Should this story be in the news? No. I had many a teacher like this. But the student is right, that's a fact. Anyone who says differently knows nothing about interpersonal relationships or teaching.
 
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That is a child that obviously wasn't beaten enough growing up. Respect isn't belittling someone's position of authority be speaking to them as though they are your buddy from the block. She displayed no respect for her instructor. She needs to be beaten and sent to her room with no supper for it.
 
JMapleton said:
You people are bunch of fucking idiots, not even joking.

RESPECT for a teacher is in knowing you can speak to the teacher on a friendly basis, the kid obviously had a respect for their teacher because it crossed that line from "authoritarian" to "friend." The kid was being friendly with the teacher, this is how you create a healthy teaching environment, not through ruler slapping, collared shirt wearing pricks who make you call their "sir" or "mister."

The teacher had NO respect for his student. NONE. A teacher's job is to keep the environment positive and CIVIL and if the student was doing something wrong, it's the teacher's job to CORRECT them not THREATEN them. More important, correct them without severing the bond of trust and friendship between the teacher and student. Because if you sever that, you sever the attention of the student and sever the desire to learn. School shouldn't be a prison.

Should this story be in the news? No. I had many a teacher like this. But the student is right, that's a fact. Anyone who says differently knows nothing about interpersonal relationships or teaching.
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i hope this is sarcasm. i really do.
 
Fenixgoon said:
i hope this is sarcasm. i really do.
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I'm thinking the same about everyone else's post.

If you think the way to create a healthy learning environment is through intimidation and authoritarianism you're foolish. But it depends on the student. If you have a bunch of thug high school kids, yes then you would be correct. But a 4th grade class should be a fun place to be, not some 1950s style classroom that resembles a detention hall. This is why so many of these so called "liberal" schools that a becoming more popular today where the students choose their interests and studies and learn more independently and with less structured classes are so much more successful than modern "stand in line and do as I say" which only breeds a nation of jerks (and ATOT posters).
 
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