420W PSU $39

Page 5 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

manko

Golden Member
May 27, 2001
1,846
1
0
If this Turbolink really is a good PS, then you can still get on this deal at a different place (from Pricewatch). They actually have it cheaper than the original hot deal: $38, but they don't say anything about "Channel Well." Their reseller rating is 7.0, but they only have one entry there. The interesting thing to note, is that this "store" is also in Walnut, CA (same as openlinx). Maybe everybody should cancel and just buy from this place:

Turbolink 420W dual-fan Power Supply for $38


...or, it just occured to me, since this place is also in Walnut, maybe when openlinx ran out of real Channel Well power supplies, they called up one of their buddies to help fill the flood of AT orders with these cheap Turbolink power supplies (sheer speculation).
 

KeinoDoggy

Member
Mar 15, 2001
181
0
0
Guys if you noticed my posts earlier you would see that mine has been shipped. UPS states it will be delivered on the 21st. MaDHaVoK keeps saying that just because it says CWT-420ATX that does not mean it is a Channel Well. Perhaps he does not realize that IS the the model number for the Channel Well! If he would do a little research om the web or some of the links listed in this thread he would see that this is common practice by power supply companies ie Sparkle. When OpenLinx opened their store Friday I called them. I had already received my invoice by email and the person there confirmed my order and said it would be shipped that day. It was. Perhaps because I talked to him by phone I did not receive the other email asking if I wanted to back out. As stated earlier he told me it is definitley a Channel Well CWT 420 made for Turbolink and has a turbolink sticker on the side. At this point I will just wait and see. If it is not advertised I will return it and expect reimbursement. I bought it with my American express blue, so I should have fraud protection if it comes to that.
 

MaDHaVoK

Senior member
Mar 7, 2001
601
0
0


<< Guys if you noticed my posts earlier you would see that mine has been shipped. UPS states it will be delivered on the 21st. MaDHaVoK keeps saying that just because it says CWT-420ATX that does not mean it is a Channel Well. Perhaps he does not realize that IS the the model number for the Channel Well! If he would do a little research om the web or some of the links listed in this thread he would see that this is common practice by power supply companies ie Sparkle. When OpenLinx opened their store Friday I called them. I had already received my invoice by email and the person there confirmed my order and said it would be shipped that day. It was. Perhaps because I talked to him by phone I did not receive the other email asking if I wanted to back out. As stated earlier he told me it is definitley a Channel Well CWT 420 made for Turbolink and has a turbolink sticker on the side. At this point I will just wait and see. If it is not advertised I will return it and expect reimbursement. I bought it with my American express blue, so I should have fraud protection if it comes to that. >>



OK... I am cancelling my order.... and just bc some people find this really hard to understand I am gonna explain.... Suppose I bought a 400 watt power supply from Antec, it was not a model they regularly sell, it is NOT the PP412X and has inferior specs..... now I go and put my label on it, "Madhavok Power Supplies model number PP412X" If you buy it your not gonna get the Antec PP412X..... your gonna get that other Antec power supply that has inferior specifications, and is not AMD approved.......

How do I want to relate this... I ordered this power supply at 48 bucks..... I get an email saying it has a Turbolink label on it with model number CWT-420ATX... They also send me the specs.... wow the specs don't match what they should be for a Channel Well CWT-420ATX........ look anywhere, look at the Channel Well website and other stores selling this Channel Well power supply........... The power supply they are sending you doesn't have the specifications of the Channel Well CWT-420ATX, yet you insist you are getting a Channel Well CWT-420ATX labeled turbolink.......... That just doesn't add up in my book.. Also realize this company went out of its way to make it 100% clear what you are getting. I cannot say this any better... This will be my last post in this thread. Good luck to everyone is getting this power supply....
 

Wolfram

Member
Jan 4, 2002
141
0
0
bottom line seems to be ......."why take a chance." If the specs matter to you, then why risk 40ish dollars on a questoin mark? Skip going out to eat once, add the extra 20-30 bucks to the 40ish your willing to put out on this and get the PS you really want. Clean power would seem to be at the top of the list for a good system. Just my .02.
 

sledge0001

Member
Nov 4, 2001
117
0
0
Okay here it goes... I purchased a new retail Antec pp-403X 400Watt Power Supply. In the bottom right hand corner of of the sticker it has this code CWT-420ATX channel well. Combined 245Watt max And it does have the 5V pot... I hope this helps!

sledge0001
 

manko

Golden Member
May 27, 2001
1,846
1
0
I just called again, but there was no answer. I guess they are closed on the weekend.

From all the links in the thread (and a lot of surfing the past couple of days), I still can't figure out what the difference in ratings means in the email from openlinx.

<< +3.3V:28A,+5V:40A,+12V:18A,-12V:0.5A,-5V:0.5A,+5SB:2.0A >>

All the +V numbers are the same as the real Channel Well from the review. Also, according the article posted above, these +V values are good. The discrepancies lie in the -V values, which none of the reviews or articles refer to. Any experts care to comment if those values are anything to worry about? It seems that even if this isn't the exact same model as the Antec/Sparkle, it may still be a solid PS.

I'm also wondering if the openlinx email values are from the outside of the box, or if these are the values that are on the sticker on the PS itself (the box could be incorrectly labelled). This is one of the things I wanted to ask them on the phone.

Personally, I don't want to risk ruining hundreds of $ of equipment (or even settle for a lower overclock), just to save $20 or $30. I would definitely cancel if you ordered this for more than $39, since the site I linked above still has the Turbolink 420W for $38 (it doesn't have a CWT-420 model number, but I assume it's the same thing).

I'm eagerly awaiting KeinoDoggy's report...If it's positive, you can still get in on this deal by ordering the Turbolink from the other site.
 

KeinoDoggy

Member
Mar 15, 2001
181
0
0
FreakyGuy says he should be getting his Monday and will even open it up. Maybe then we'll knoww what we're getting for sure.
Thanks sledge001, that is pretty much the point I and some others have been trying to show.
 

Rainguy

Elite Member
Apr 13, 2000
5,896
0
0
I ordered 3 @ $39 ea. so I too will wait for FreakyGuy's delivery and see what we are actually getting. I can always cancel on Tuesday.
I don't know if these guys even emailed the right specs for this thing. How can something with the same model# (CWT-420) despite what it is branded with, have two totally different specs?:confused:
 

Sir Fredrick

Guest
Oct 14, 1999
4,375
0
0
Hmm, great deal if it is what we're hoping.
And lookie what IS on the approved list:

Sinotech--CWT- 420ATX---420---245---ATX
 

Steve0

Senior member
Mar 31, 2000
447
0
0
Okay, I bailed. Too much uncertainty, don't trust the situation.

I just bought an Enermax 350w PS at a local computer show for $54.50. I feel better already.

Steve
 

lazarus000

Senior member
Aug 9, 2001
575
0
0
yepper... gonna wait til the monday report.

the numbers for this power supply(even the emailed ones) show better than my
enermax 451P-V on the +V side.

i'm using this PS as the 2nd one in my system to run all my fans and pelt.

still haven't heard from anyone about how important the -v side is??????


-5v is 1.0 versus -5v at .5 in the email. (same for -12v)

what kind of difference will this -.5 difference on the -V side make?


will it make any diff

 

exp

Platinum Member
May 9, 2001
2,150
0
0


<< still haven't heard from anyone about how important the -v side is??????
-5v is 1.0 versus -5v at .5 in the email. (same for -12v)
what kind of difference will this -.5 difference on the -V side make?
will it make any diff
>>


Here is a description I pulled off another site:

-12 V: This voltage is used on some types of serial port circuits, whose amplifier circuits require both -12V and +12V. It is not needed on some newer systems, and even on older ones not very much is used, because the serial ports require little power. Most power supplies provide it for compatibility with older hardware, but usually with a current limit of less than 1 A.
-5 V: A now archaic voltage, -5 V was used on some of the earliest PCs for floppy controllers and other circuits used by ISA bus cards. It is usually provided, in small quantity (generally less than 1A), for compatibility with older hardware. Some form factor power supplies such as the SFX no longer bother to supply it (systems using the SFX power supply are intended not to have ISA bus slots).

As you can see the -V side is not very important. The more significant question I have here is whether this power supply provides a good clean signal to the +V side (+3.3, +5, +12). If it is of the same high quality as the power supplies Channel Well provides for Antec/Sparkle then I doubt there will be any problems.

I think some folks are backing out of this a little too quickly (your call, though). I will give it a couple more days before replying to Openlinx's e-mail with any kind of decision.
 

lazarus000

Senior member
Aug 9, 2001
575
0
0


<<

<< still haven't heard from anyone about how important the -v side is??????
-5v is 1.0 versus -5v at .5 in the email. (same for -12v)
what kind of difference will this -.5 difference on the -V side make?
will it make any diff
>>


Here is a description I pulled off another site:

-12 V: This voltage is used on some types of serial port circuits, whose amplifier circuits require both -12V and +12V. It is not needed on some newer systems, and even on older ones not very much is used, because the serial ports require little power. Most power supplies provide it for compatibility with older hardware, but usually with a current limit of less than 1 A.
-5 V: A now archaic voltage, -5 V was used on some of the earliest PCs for floppy controllers and other circuits used by ISA bus cards. It is usually provided, in small quantity (generally less than 1A), for compatibility with older hardware. Some form factor power supplies such as the SFX no longer bother to supply it (systems using the SFX power supply are intended not to have ISA bus slots).

As you can see the -V side is not very important. The more significant question I have here is whether this power supply provides a good clean signal to the +V side (+3.3, +5, +12). If it is of the same high quality as the power supplies Channel Well provides for Antec/Sparkle then I doubt there will be any problems.

I think some folks are backing out of this a little too quickly (your call, though). I will give it a couple more days before replying to Openlinx's e-mail with any kind of decision.
>>




thank you very much for the time and effort you took to answer the question.

i couldn't find it myself.. :(

 

manko

Golden Member
May 27, 2001
1,846
1
0
exp, thanks for the great info and good news.

<< The more significant question I have here is whether this power supply provides a good clean signal to the +V side (+3.3, +5, +12). >>

I couldn't agree more (especially for overclockers ;)). And if this does turn out out to be a solid oem PS, you can still get in on this deal at another dealer - at a better price than the original deal (as I pointed out above). (Might have to edit the thread title again.)

Turbolink dual-fan 420W STILL $38 at Akida Computer



...we need an icon for *crossing fingers*
 

GregANDTCH

Golden Member
Dec 10, 2000
1,370
0
76


<< that akida place seems to be selling some nice "SPEACKERS" >>



Yeah, I wonder if they have HEADFONES too?
 

Rainguy

Elite Member
Apr 13, 2000
5,896
0
0
Yes, good news indeed Hope to get a post from the guy that recieves his tommorrow but, I will prolly let my order go through.
 

lazarus000

Senior member
Aug 9, 2001
575
0
0


<< exp, thanks for the great info and good news.

<< The more significant question I have here is whether this power supply provides a good clean signal to the +V side (+3.3, +5, +12). >>

I couldn't agree more (especially for overclockers ;)). And if this does turn out out to be a solid oem PS, you can still get in on this deal at another dealer - at a better price than the original deal (as I pointed out above). (Might have to edit the thread title again.)

Turbolink dual-fan 420W STILL $38 at Akida Computer



...we need an icon for *crossing fingers*
>>




except for the akida place doesnt give any model number or specs... so you really don't know what your getting from them.

i sent them an email asking for the extra information

all we know at the moment is that its a 420w turbolink.

could be anything beyond that.



 

hoihtah

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2001
5,183
0
76
i cancelled mine...

i decided to go with something a bit more safe. :) too much suspense for me this morning.

i hope they're good about refunding the money that they charged on my card.
 

JDAustin

Junior Member
Jul 17, 2001
17
0
0
Any idea on which PS to get then? I'm putting together a dual athlon system so i'm looking for advice.