400 Economists, including 5 Nobel laureates, endorse Romney

PJABBER

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I like to catch up on international and business news on Saturday mornings.

Today is a day to spend with some Dancing Goats espresso and, hold on... what's this???

Over 400 independent economists signed a statement at the website Economists for Romney in support of what they call the Republican presidential candidate's "bold economic plan for America?"

OMG! :awe:

Gary Becker, Robert Lucas, Robert Mundell, Edward Prescott, and Myron Scholes :)wub: Scholes!), all of them Nobel laureates, signed the statement?

We enthusiastically endorse Governor Mitt Romney’s economic plan to create jobs and restore economic growth while returning America to its tradition of economic freedom.

But what about Obama, our Dear Leader out of the economic wilderness? Doesn't he deserve credit?

Uh oh, doesn't look like he does.

Looks like they are claiming his policies led to

"an anemic economic recovery and high unemployment."

But, I have read in this very forum that the future is so bright that we have to wear shades! :cool:

"His future plans are to double down on the failed policies, which will only prolong slow growth and high unemployment."

Don't SAY that! My buddies at ATPN wil go apoplectic! Uh, never mind, they are there already.

"In sum, Governor Romney’s economic plan is far superior for creating economic growth and jobs than the actions and interventions President Obama has taken or plans to take in the future."

Holey Moley, Jiminy Crickets!

I wonder how many people at ATPN have seen this? :confused:

ECONOMISTS FOR ROMNEY

Statement In Support

We enthusiastically endorse Governor Mitt Romney’s economic plan to create jobs and restore economic growth while returning America to its tradition of economic freedom. The plan is based on proven principles: a more contained and less intrusive federal government, a greater reliance on the private sector, a broad expansion of opportunity without government favors for special interests, and respect for the rule of law including the decision-making authority of states and localities.

Applying these principles, Governor Romney would:

Reduce marginal tax rates on business and wage incomes and broaden the tax base to increase investment, jobs, and living standards.

End the exploding federal debt by controlling the growth of spending so federal spending does not exceed 20 percent of the economy.

Restructure regulation to end “too big to fail,” improve credit availability to entrepreneurs and small businesses, and increase regulatory accountability, and ensure that all regulations pass rigorous benefit-cost tests.

Improve our Social Security and Medicare programs by reducing their growth to sustainable levels, ensuring their viability over the long term, and protecting those in or near retirement.

Reform our healthcare system to harness market forces and thereby reduce costs and increase quality, empowering patients and doctors, rather than the federal bureaucracy.

Promote energy policies that increase domestic production, enlarge the use of all western hemisphere resources, encourage the use of new technologies, end wasteful subsidies, and rely more on market forces and less on government planners.

In stark contrast, President Obama has failed to advance policies that promote economic and job growth, focusing instead on increasing the size and scope of the federal government, which increases the debt, requires large tax increases, and burdens business with many new financial and health care regulations. The result is an anemic economic recovery and high unemployment. His future plans are to double down on the failed policies, which will only prolong slow growth and high unemployment.

President Obama has:

Relied on short-term “stimulus” programs, which provided little sustainable lift to the economy, and enacted and proposed significant tax increases for all Americans.

Offered no plan to reduce federal spending and stop the growth of the debt-to-GDP ratio.

Failed to propose Social Security reform and offered a Medicare proposal that relies on a panel of bureaucrats to set prices, quantities, and qualities of healthcare services.

Favored a large expansion of economic regulation across many sectors, with little regard for proper cost-benefit analysis and with a disturbing degree of favoritism toward special interests.

Enacted health care legislation that centralizes health care decisions and increases the power of the federal bureaucracy to impose one-size-fits-all solutions on patients and doctors, and creates greater incentives for waste.

Favored expansion of one-size-fits-all federal rulemaking, with an erosion of the ability of state and local governments to make decisions appropriate for their particular circumstances.

In sum, Governor Romney’s economic plan is far superior for creating economic growth and jobs than the actions and interventions President Obama has taken or plans to take in the future. This November, voters will make a fundamental choice between differing visions of America’s economic future.

Signed (affiliations listed for identification purposes only),

Gary Becker, Nobel laureate

Robert Lucas, Nobel laureate

Robert Mundell, Nobel laureate

Edward Prescott, Nobel laureate

Myron Scholes, Nobel laureate

READ THE ENTIRE LIST OF 400 HERE.
 
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mshan

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Ummm, how can we take that list seriously?

It doesn't even include Larry "subprime is contained" (and can only cause a mild recession, at worst) Kudlow's signature?

Where's Stephen Moore (you know, the "giants" of the current wing-nut faction of the Republican economic idealogy)



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PJABBER

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Ummm, how can we take that list seriously?

It doesn't even include Larry "subprime is contained" (and can only cause a mild recession, at worst) Kudlow's signature?

:biggrin:

Don't pick on Larry, he is very entertaining! :D

If you like Larry's style, I find the John Batchelor Show extraordinarily informative.

He does broadcast late, but you can get the show podcast to download here.

Highly recommended counterpoint to conventional news and business commentary!
 

mshan

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LOL, Alan Greenspan isn't even on that list!

Pretty sloppy piece of propaganda by whomever is paying for that site (which of course is par for the course for Romney and his utterly inept and incompetent campaign apparatus).
 

Charles Kozierok

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There are approximately 15,000 economists in the US. I'm not surprised that 3% of them are Republicans.

If anything, the number is a bit too low to be impressive.
 

mshan

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T. D. Ameritrade's "Enlightened Investor" magazine (fall 2008 edition):

Stock market returns (chart on page 3):


Average Annual Returns:
- Democrat: 9.0%
- Republican: 5.8%

Cumulative Return on $10,000:
- Democrat: $315,449
- Republican: $73,536

Average Annual Returns (individual administrations):
- FDR 7.5%
- Truman 8.3%
- Eisenhower 10.9%
- Kennedy 6.5%
- LBJ 7.7%
- Nixon -3.9%
- Ford 10.8%
- Carter 6.9%
- Reagan 10.2%
- H. W. Bush 11.0%
- Clinton 15.2%
- George W Bush -0.8% (through 8/25/08)


(in reconciling average annual returns with the cumulative gain on $10,000 statistic above, I'm guessing that Republican administrations have represented giant boom and bust cycles where lots of money was made, lots of money was lost, but the net overall effect was simply transfer of wealth, rather than gains that hold significantly over time?)
 

Jhhnn

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400 shills & delusionists among America's 15,000 economists?

Why, that's nearly 2.7%, and they must be right!

Standard Pjabber fail thread...
 

PJABBER

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There are approximately 15,000 economists in the US. I'm not surprised that 3% of them are Republicans.

If anything, the number is a bit too low to be impressive.

Economists for Romney is an independent, voluntary association of economists who support Governor Romney’s economic plan for America. Economists for Romney is not an official arm of the 2012 Mitt Romney campaign, nor does it accept dues, fees, donations, or contributions.

Still looking for that independent "Economists for Obama" group.

Still looking...

Still looking...

:hmm:
 

Balt

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Romney has an economic plan? I thought it was just a vague delusional fantasy.

Somehow he's promised to increase defense spending and reverse Obama's cuts to Medicare (which is an idea I'm sure Paul Ryan loves) while simultaneously cutting taxes on the wealthy.

Brilliant.
 

monovillage

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Originally Posted by monovillage View Post
Why the fuck would anyone, even a Democrat, trust an economist/politician/banker?

I disagree, I can understand why someone would trust a poor politician or a poor banker, that just means they're probably honest. To be a poor economist means you're making mistakes with your money.
 

Jhhnn

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Economists for Romney is an independent, voluntary association of economists who support Governor Romney’s economic plan for America. Economists for Romney is not an official arm of the 2012 Mitt Romney campaign, nor does it accept dues, fees, donations, or contributions.

Still looking for that independent "Economists for Obama" group.

Still looking...

Still looking...

:hmm:

Economists who work for AEI are independent? Of what- their paychecks?
 

Bowfinger

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Romney has an economic plan? I thought it was just a vague delusional fantasy.

Somehow he's promised to increase defense spending and reverse Obama's cuts to Medicare (which is an idea I'm sure Paul Ryan loves) while simultaneously cutting taxes on the wealthy.

Brilliant.
Maybe he's richer than we think, and is just going to pay for it all out of his own pocket? Apparently he won't have to worry about paying taxes if his plan passes.
 

blankslate

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400 shills & delusionists among America's 15,000 economists? Why, that's nearly 2.7%, and they must be right! Standard Pjabber fail thread...

Still looking for that independent "Economists for Obama" group.

C'mon now when billionaires are looking at the http://abcnews.go.com/Business/paul-ryans-tax-plan-measures-americans/story?id=16994803 Ryan budget plan which could very well be similar to what Governor Romney would do considering that Governor Romney has already stated that his medicare plan was similar Representative Ryan's
Romney: Actually, Paul Ryan and my plan for Medicare, I think, is the same if not identical--it's probably close to identical. Our plan is for people 55 years of age and older. There's no change. The only change I'd mention for 55 or older is we'd restore the $817 billion President Obama took out of the Medicare trust fund.
then realizing that if Governor Romney was elected then much of Representative Ryan's budget proposal which would be like this
The House Republican budget for the 2013 fiscal year, passed by the House in June, would raise taxes by $1,358 for jointly-filing households earning between $50,000 and $100,000, assuming the additional income is taxed at a 10 percent rate, according to a report published earlier this summer by the Joint Economic Committee of Congress, authored by its chairman, Casey.

Households with incomes between $100,000 and $200,000 would see their taxes increase by $2,681, the Joint Economic Committee said.

Rep. Ryan's office did not return a request for comment.

The committee reported Ryan's budget plan would give the richest Americans -- those who make over $1 million -- a tax break of about $300,000.
probably would also make it into Governor Romney's budget plan...



Then why not suggest to a supply side economist that they should organize an Economists for Romney group which represents an overwhelming majority of economists with their 2.7%
 
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umbrella39

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Wonders how long self important OP will go on making a fool of himself... The spiral downward continues quite laughably... This only gets better folks. We've seen how this plays out before! Can't wait until the next disappearing act, see ya errrr not after November! Come back in '16. Pft.
 

PJABBER

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Then why not suggest to a supply side economist that they should organize an Economists for Romney group which represents an overwhelming majority of economists with their 2.7%

Can you help a poor fellow poster find that independent "Economists for Obama" group?

Could ya?

Pretty please.