40% Of US adults Obese

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purbeast0

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You don't have to sell me on it. I already eat pretty healthy or atleast a lot healthy than I did when I was younger. I do need to get back to working out. I try my best not to be too lazy, I have a physical job so at least I'm not stuck in a cubicle all day. I'm about 190lbs at 6 foot so overweight but not obese. I'd like to get down to about 165 I'm working on quitting my ridiculous beer habit that should help a lot if I don't eat more to make up for it.
Yeah I don't mean you specifically, I mean in the general sense. That is what I will never understand, that people just don't care. Like it takes a concious effort to become a fatty, it's not something that happens accidentally overnight. It takes a while.

And damn, 6' @ 165lbs to me seems like that would be so skinny. I feel skinny when I get below 200lbs and I'm only 5'11. I remember when I used to be like 165 when I graduated college and was a toothpick. I was very lean but a toothpick and pretty weak in hindsight.
 
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I'm 5 10 and 206lbs. Says I'm overweight. I could lose maybe 15 lbs. I carry a good amount of muscle, especially in my legs. Says healthy range for my height is 126 to 176. I weighed 175 once and people thought I weighed about 150lbs. I can't even imagine 126lbs at my height.
I lift, bicycle, run, and play basketball regularly. I don't really plan on going back under 190lbs. It's nice having the mass for playing basketball.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I think that's the thing too some people are built bigger, they will look super skinny if they are the same weight as someone who is built smaller. When I hit 160lbs I start looking a little round myself. :p I don't really have much of a hard time maintaining my weight though, like I don't really eat the greatest and I stay around 140-150 range.
 

Mayne

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I have batteries ready to go into my digital scale. I just can't bare to pout them in...I've lost way to much weight....I don't even want to know how skinny i am now.
 

turtile

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I think this thread really shows the reason so many are overweight. Everyone here claims that obesity is caused by eating 'unhealthy'. But here is the simple fact, regardless of what you eat, if you overeat, you will get fat. Yes, there are some foods which make overeating harder but it's more about self control.

Today it's really easy to overeat because of huge sugary drinks which don't fill you up but contain a ton of easily absorbed energy.
 
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Crono

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I think this thread really shows the reason so many are overweight. Everyone here claims that obesity is caused by eating 'unhealthy'. But here is the simple fact, regardless of what you eat, if you overeat, you will get fat. Yes, there are some foods which make overeating harder but it's more about self control.

Today it's really easy to overeat because of huge sugary drinks which don't fill you up but contain a ton of easily absorbed energy.

It's pretty damn hard to overeat on a naturally high fiber (mostly unprocessed foods, high volume of fruits and vegetables) diet.

Your last sentence actually supports what everyone else is saying. No one is saying that self-control doesn't come into play. But if you make it easy for people to make poor choices, they will be more likely to make poor choices. This is why some states and populations have it worse: you surround people with fast food restaurants, give them limited access to fresh produce and real markets, don't educate them about nutrition and exercise, and you really can't be surprised when a sedentary, obese population is the result.
 
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Alpha One Seven

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My BMI is 28.5. I'm so obese.

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22.4 here. My doctor actually congratulated me a week ago at my annual physical. He also said I have hands of a man 15 years my junior.
 

Red Squirrel

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It's pretty damn hard to overeat on a naturally high fiber (mostly unprocessed foods, high volume of fruits and vegetables) diet.

Your last sentence actually supports what everyone else is saying. No one is saying that self-control doesn't come into play. But if you make it easy for people to make poor choices, they will be more likely to make poor choices. This is why some states and populations have it worse: you surround people with fast food restaurants, give them limited access to fresh produce and real markets, don't educate them about nutrition and exercise, and you really can't be surprised when a sedentary, obese population is the result.


That's the issue too, is that the bad foods are easily accessible and so much easier. Like even premade food at the grocery store is not really good for you but it's easy. Anything healthy you have to make yourself and that takes more time and effort... and you have to actually be a good cook, not everyone is. People go to school for like 3+ years for that, if they want to do it professionally. It's too bad that they can't have actual healthy fast food places and premade meals and that it can't be more the norm. I guess the issue is that healthy stuff tends to also not last very long because it's actually real food, so it would be harder to premake and then have it sit in a grocery store for any extended time.

I'm really trying to push myself to cook more but it's just so hard and takes up so much time and effort. There are a few things I do know how to make now and then make batches though but need to increase variety as the more variety I have the less I need to fill in with fast food and junk. Being the correct weight on it's own is not the definition of health, so still have to watch regardless.
 

Alpha One Seven

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That's the issue too, is that the bad foods are easily accessible and so much easier. Like even premade food at the grocery store is not really good for you but it's easy. Anything healthy you have to make yourself and that takes more time and effort... and you have to actually be a good cook, not everyone is. People go to school for like 3+ years for that, if they want to do it professionally. It's too bad that they can't have actual healthy fast food places and premade meals and that it can't be more the norm. I guess the issue is that healthy stuff tends to also not last very long because it's actually real food, so it would be harder to premake and then have it sit in a grocery store for any extended time.

I'm really trying to push myself to cook more but it's just so hard and takes up so much time and effort. There are a few things I do know how to make now and then make batches though but need to increase variety as the more variety I have the less I need to fill in with fast food and junk. Being the correct weight on it's own is not the definition of health, so still have to watch regardless.
I find it easiest to shop the produce and meats sections and bypass the rest.
 

purbeast0

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I find it easiest to shop the produce and meats sections and bypass the rest.
To shop healthy, walk around the edges of grocery stores. You will pass by your grains, dairy, meats, fruits, and veggies. Everything in the middle aisles is just processed shit for the most part.
 

Crono

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To shop healthy, walk around the edges of grocery stores. You will pass by your grains, dairy, meats, fruits, and veggies. Everything in the middle aisles is just processed shit for the most part.

I like that concept in theory, but in reality there are a lot of canned and dried vegetables/beans, pasta, spices, oils, snacks (most not nutritious, but some are), tea, coffee, nuts and seeds... I could go on. At least that's how the supermarkets here are, not including Whole Foods which has slightly more "good stuff" in between.
 

sdifox

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I think we have found the so called discrepancy in climate change data.
 
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lxskllr

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I like that concept in theory, but in reality there are a lot of canned and dried vegetables/beans, pasta, spices, oils, snacks (most not nutritious, but some are), tea, coffee... I could go on. At least that's how the supermarkets here are, not including Whole Foods which has slightly more "good stuff" in between.
It's an alright generic instruction for people who are illiterate, and can barely breathe unassisted, but there's all kinds of good stuff in the aisles. You just need very basic nutrition knowledge, and a fifth grade education.
 

WelshBloke

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65kg and 180cm here which puts me in the middle of a normal BMI. I don't really eat "healthily" but we do cook from scratch at home mostly. My jobs pretty active and I can be on my feet for 12 hours at a time. Also got 2 kids that helps!

I think that we've been conditioned to look at heavier weights as normal. And I'm not talking about people who work out. Basically if you haven't got a substantial spare tyre people think that you're underweight.
 

purbeast0

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I like that concept in theory, but in reality there are a lot of canned and dried vegetables/beans, pasta, spices, oils, snacks (most not nutritious, but some are), tea, coffee, nuts and seeds... I could go on. At least that's how the supermarkets here are, not including Whole Foods which has slightly more "good stuff" in between.
Yeah it's more a basic guide for dummies 101. Obviously there is stuff essential in the middle aisles but generally speaking it's all processed stuff, some of which can be just fine for you like frozen veggies, canned veggies, tuna, pasta, etc. I'm talking about more general grocery stores like Giant, Safeway, Wegmanns, etc, not Trader Joes, Roots, or Whole Foods.
 
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snoopy7548

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That's the issue too, is that the bad foods are easily accessible and so much easier. Like even premade food at the grocery store is not really good for you but it's easy. Anything healthy you have to make yourself and that takes more time and effort... and you have to actually be a good cook, not everyone is. People go to school for like 3+ years for that, if they want to do it professionally. It's too bad that they can't have actual healthy fast food places and premade meals and that it can't be more the norm. I guess the issue is that healthy stuff tends to also not last very long because it's actually real food, so it would be harder to premake and then have it sit in a grocery store for any extended time.

I'm really trying to push myself to cook more but it's just so hard and takes up so much time and effort. There are a few things I do know how to make now and then make batches though but need to increase variety as the more variety I have the less I need to fill in with fast food and junk. Being the correct weight on it's own is not the definition of health, so still have to watch regardless.

I was going to post something similar. Unhealthy food is made with so much salt and sugar and fat that it tastes really freaking good, and being able to replicate that at home takes a lot of work. Sure you can easily buy broccoli and steam it with some salt and pepper, but it'll taste bland as hell. Roast that broccoli with olive oil, lemon juice, and garlic, and you've got something that will taste better than anything you can get in a TV dinner or at a fast food joint, but that takes time and energy that people with unhealthy lifestyles just don't have or want to put in.

Once you actually start cooking all of your meals, you realize quickly just how little salt and sugar you actually need, and after a while you'll be disgusted by the unhealthy foods. The key is to make cooking fun and easy. A crock pot is worth its weight in gold if you're just starting out.
 

ponyo

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I was going to post something similar. Unhealthy food is made with so much salt and sugar and fat that it tastes really freaking good, and being able to replicate that at home takes a lot of work. Sure you can easily buy broccoli and steam it with some salt and pepper, but it'll taste bland as hell. Roast that broccoli with olive oil, lemon juice, and garlic, and you've got something that will taste better than anything you can get in a TV dinner or at a fast food joint, but that takes time and energy that people with unhealthy lifestyles just don't have or want to put in.

Once you actually start cooking all of your meals, you realize quickly just how little salt and sugar you actually need, and after a while you'll be disgusted by the unhealthy foods. The key is to make cooking fun and easy. A crock pot is worth its weight in gold if you're just starting out.
I love good food. I don't care if it's healthy or unhealthy. If it tastes good, I eat it. I cook all the time. But I use lot of salt, pepper, sugar, etc because I like flavor. I can't stand eating bland food and that's what you get with health nuts. They eat lean boiled chicken breast with minimal salt because it's healthy. They eat for health reasons and not for flavor and enjoyment. I rather die then eat like that. We all gonna die so we might as well eat what makes us happy. I like fried food. I like little fat on steaks and BBQ. Fat is flavor.

Personally, I hate crock pot cooking. You can make some good food with it but most people use it for something like pot roast. I HATE pot roast and vegetables from crock pot. So boring and bland.
 

highland145

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Sorry, I'm not trying to say your kid is a freak or anything, it's just the complete opposite of my experience. When I was 14 I was 6'1/6'2 and 215lbs. I guess I never had a lanky phase.
Same here. I don't think he's mine.:oops:
 

ch33zw1z

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Fat, loud, and proud. Those of us who can still stand, are doing it with the bigliest pride, the best pride, like no one would believe. Pride like you've never seen.
 

Ancalagon44

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I was going to post something similar. Unhealthy food is made with so much salt and sugar and fat that it tastes really freaking good, and being able to replicate that at home takes a lot of work. Sure you can easily buy broccoli and steam it with some salt and pepper, but it'll taste bland as hell. Roast that broccoli with olive oil, lemon juice, and garlic, and you've got something that will taste better than anything you can get in a TV dinner or at a fast food joint, but that takes time and energy that people with unhealthy lifestyles just don't have or want to put in.

Once you actually start cooking all of your meals, you realize quickly just how little salt and sugar you actually need, and after a while you'll be disgusted by the unhealthy foods. The key is to make cooking fun and easy. A crock pot is worth its weight in gold if you're just starting out.

I think there is an issue that people need to think about before they even get to this point.

Does all food need to taste good? Does it all need to be sweet or salty? Should we never eat bland food?

If you think about people make food decisions, these are the criteria they use:
How convenient is it?
How good does it taste?
How cheap is it?

Those are the top 3 for most people. To be healthy, you have to be willing to put in a little more effort, or eat something more bland, or pay more money. Not necessarily all 3 at the same time.

For instance, every day I eat a large bowl of broccoli which I microwave. After microwaving, I add some salt and olive oil. It is bland, but healthy and cheap.