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momos=mmc460's that you linked to. They come with 2 crossovers. One for the midrange driver and one for the tweeter.
 
lol i knew you ment the mmc's when you said momo's i was just wonderin about the whole crossover part lol.

So the problem with the momos are that they have two crossovers...? / where would i "hide" two crossovers, correct? or....?
 
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
 
I know right? ^ ^ I got the mounting bracket(black part around the deck) from a buddy for free so i wasn't complaining. Plus since the deck is aftermarket it's too long to fit in ( hence why it doesn't go in farther and why i had to use that black one that makes it stick out. In the back there is a bracket that kept the factory one in there. In order to make it flush/ nice looking i would have to cut the bracket off and then make a new one somehow in side there behind the deck.

wasn't worth my time IMO.
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
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If you listen to this, your car deserves to go up in flames.
 
just to make sure you know. I was replying to Walking in Circles about my mounting job.

I hadn't seen qburt had replied.
 
as someone else said, if you do install an amp, do it right. you need at least 4awg wire (bigger wont hurt, but smaller may) an inline fuse AS CLOSE TO THE BATTERY AS POSSIBLE, and for heaven's sake make sure you pick a good ground location, and DO IT RIGHT, drill a hole, put a connector on the end of the wire and bolt it in place.
 
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
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If you listen to this, your car deserves to go up in flames.
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I'm not an electrical person and I've never had a car go up in flames, and I've always done my own car stereo, In fact I don't know a single person who've had troubles outside of hooking up the wires to their head unit wrong and having it drain the battery even when the car is off. There is a possibility of this happening sure, but installing an amp is easy as hell. How hard is it to run wire from your battery to your amp? An Amp will have 2 or 3 wires tops, anyone can drill a hole for the ground cable (how hard is that) Where is this "car going up in flames" coming in to play?

I find it impossible that I've gotten lucky on the 10 or so systems I've installed to have had any sorts of problems. These people who burn their cars to the ground probably rush and don't pay attention. It's NOT hard to hook up 3 wires, the rest are all speaker wires and RCA's, the worst you'll do there is hook the speakers up incorrectly, no harm there. If a person is unable to follow simple directions and take their time, you're right they deserve to have their car burn up. But I would say it's impossible for anyone who has enough brains to follow some simple fucking directions to have a problem. As fir these professional stereo installers I do the exact same shit they do when I install mine. They don't have secret magical techniques they use, there's nothing hard about it...
 
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
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If you listen to this, your car deserves to go up in flames.
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I'm not an electrical person and I've never had a car go up in flames, and I've always done my own car stereo, In fact I don't know a single person who've had troubles outside of hooking up the wires to their head unit wrong and having it drain the battery even when the car is off. There is a possibility of this happening sure, but installing an amp is easy as hell. How hard is it to run wire from your battery to your amp? An Amp will have 2 or 3 wires tops, anyone can drill a hole for the ground cable (how hard is that) Where is this "cart burning to the ground coming in to play?

I find it impossible I've just gotten lucky on the 10 or so systems I've installed to have never had problems. These people who burn their cars to the ground probably rush and don't pay attention. It's NOT hard to hook up 3 wires, the rest are all speaker wires and RCA's, the worst you'll do there is hook the speakers up incorrectly, no harm there. If a person is unable to follow simple directions and take their time, you're right they deserve to have their car burn up. But I would say it's impossible for anyone who has enough brains to follow some simple fucking directions to have a problem. As fir these professional stereo installers I do the exact same shit they do when I install mine. They don't have secret magical techniques they use, there's nothing hard about it...
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A 4 channel amp is going to have:
power
ground
remote
front rca in
rear rca in
4 sets of speaker wires out

There are hundreds of things that can and will go wrong with an amp install. There are plenty of things that pro installers check for when they do an install.

But then again, why would you listen to a professional when you can listen to someone "who isn't an electrician and knows nothing about these things".
 
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
Click to expand...

If you listen to this, your car deserves to go up in flames.
Click to expand...

I'm not an electrical person and I've never had a car go up in flames, and I've always done my own car stereo, In fact I don't know a single person who've had troubles outside of hooking up the wires to their head unit wrong and having it drain the battery even when the car is off. There is a possibility of this happening sure, but installing an amp is easy as hell. How hard is it to run wire from your battery to your amp? An Amp will have 2 or 3 wires tops, anyone can drill a hole for the ground cable (how hard is that) Where is this "cart burning to the ground coming in to play?

I find it impossible I've just gotten lucky on the 10 or so systems I've installed to have never had problems. These people who burn their cars to the ground probably rush and don't pay attention. It's NOT hard to hook up 3 wires, the rest are all speaker wires and RCA's, the worst you'll do there is hook the speakers up incorrectly, no harm there. If a person is unable to follow simple directions and take their time, you're right they deserve to have their car burn up. But I would say it's impossible for anyone who has enough brains to follow some simple fucking directions to have a problem. As fir these professional stereo installers I do the exact same shit they do when I install mine. They don't have secret magical techniques they use, there's nothing hard about it...
Click to expand...

A 4 channel amp is going to have:
power
ground
remote
front rca in
rear rca in
4 sets of speaker wires out

There are hundreds of things that can and will go wrong with an amp install. There are plenty of things that pro installers check for when they do an install.

But then again, why would you listen to a professional when you can listen to someone "who isn't an electrician and knows nothing about these things".
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I know 2 people who almost burned their home down from trying to build their own PC's, ANYTHING that's going to be using AC/DC power has the possibility to start a fire fight? I know enough about electricity to know what I'm doing is the same as what the "pro installer" up the street will charge me 80-100 bucks to do. The only advantage he has is his experience will make the job faster and he'll be better at tuning it, I should say faster. Given enough time I tuned mine every bit as good as he would have, it just took me 4 times as long. If you're not smart enough to properly hook up a power and ground wire, you're right. That person definitely should go to an installer. Hell, my latest amp the remote wire isn't even needed, as told me by a "pro installer" I know. So essentially all I'll have to worry about is 2 wires, since improperly hooking up RCA's and speaker wire won't result in anything but messed up sound or reversed channels. And those 2 wires are color coded, so for me to accidentally reserve them would impossible. If I somehow managed to reserve a red and black cable I definitely would deserve to have my car burn to the ground 🙂
 
QueBert,

Most people who get their car burned down is because they didn't fuse it properly or use wire that is too small. I happens more than you think.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
QueBert,

Most people who get their car burned down is because they didn't fuse it properly or use wire that is too small. I happens more than you think.
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that would fall under somebody NOT READING what the fuck to do. When any stereo shop, or Best Buy or Fry's sell's fucking Amp kits. There's no excuse, it's not like a person has to hunt around for everything they need and have a possibility of having a wrong part. You go look at the amp kits in a store, you find one rated for the watts your amp is. Very simple. The kit will have everything you need it in. But if you can't even manage to do that, installing an amp should be the last thing you attempt to do. If you can still fuck up an install even with the proper amp kit, I don't know what to tell you. lol


1. hook the fuse to the battery terminal, every amp kit I've bought (about 10) has came with a fuse holder.
2. run power wire to the amp
3. drill hole for ground
4. run remote wire to amp
5. hook up rca's & power wire
6. get volt meter, turn on car and check to make sure power is good
7. turn car off and check battery with volt meter to make sure there's not a drain.
8. tune amp
9. finished!

Spidey I'm SURE it happens a lot, like I said I know 2 people who almost burned their homes down trying to build a PC, so people burning down shit doesn't surprise me in the least. But it's near impossible to almost burn your car down if you have common sense, I would even say somebody who's never touched car audio should be able to install an amp if they can follow directions, there is nothing difficult about it. You don't have to have knowledge of electrical shit, there are plenty of guides online, it's a simple process that a n00b should be able to do correctly in a single afternoon.

Amp Kit + patients + instructions = job well done.
 
Like Quebert said...installing an amp is pretty easy. Hardest part is probably running the wires and making everything look clean.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.


My question still is though.... can I/ should I go with the momo's or will the crossovers take up too much room. / should I get the 2-way faceplate speakers instead for about the same money?
 
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Question = Will the momo's take up too much room to be able to install even though I'm not putting grills over them? Do they have to be amped?
 
Momo's are pretty deep, at least the ones I have are, and they won't sound good off a Head Unit - I take that back. I guess from person to person it will vary, but to me my Momo's sounded like shit off my H.U. which is a Panasonic that is supposed to have one of the best in unit amps there is (70x4 digital) Momo's can suck up a lot of power. You should check the depth of the ones you're looking into.

As for the cross overs you'll mount them somewhere else, like maybe in the trunk or behind the seats or something.
 
Righto. Well I"m willing to get a 4 channel amp for my infinity kappa 6x9s and these new speakers.... so... any advice?
 
I recommend PPI or any Directed amp for that matter.

The first person that says Fosgate gets kicked in the nuts.
 
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
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If you listen to this, your car deserves to go up in flames.
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So instead of bashing the guy, why not say how to do it "correctly"?
 
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: QueBert
installing an amp is NOT hard if you have common sense and some patients. If you run the right gauge wire and make sure the remote and ground are properly hooked up, I don't see how you could possibly start your car on fire. I'm not good with shit like that, and I installed 2 amps in my car. It took me about 10 times longer than a pro but outside of it not sounding as good as it could due to my lack of tuning knowledge it wasn't hard at all. 12v goes to your battery, ground goes to any metal surface and if you have a newer, non ghetto amp the remote wire isn't needed as it will auto shut down when the car is off. *IF* you're going to pay somebody to do it, find a local, reputable installer don't go to a shop and pay way too much. I recommend the new Polk amp, you can get it for cheap on Ebay with the live cash back. Their old Momo amps are killer, the new ones own hard. Their components own too, I have 6.5's in the front and they sound super sick.
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If you listen to this, your car deserves to go up in flames.
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So instead of bashing the guy, why not say how to do it "correctly"?
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Because its different on every car. Keep in mind that QueBert is stuck in the 80's, things have changed a bit since then. 😛
 
Originally posted by: harobikes333
Righto. Well I"m willing to get a 4 channel amp for my infinity kappa 6x9s and these new speakers.... so... any advice?
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what is your budget for the amp? I recommend no matter what brand you get it off Ebay, especially with the MS Live cash back. an inexpensive 4 channel amp that's still good is the Kicker 350.4, I'm biased towards Polk, you can actually get their latest 4 channel for a pretty decent price. IMO no amp is going to touch it unless you spend a lot more. Alpine F300 or a PDX 4.100 can be had on Ebay for outstanding prices. The 4 channel Infinity amp is rock solid I ran one before and loved it.

POLK AUDIO PA200.4

Alpine MRP-F250

Infinity Reference 4 channel

If you want more power the Polk has a pa500 and Alpine has an f450 (I believe)

The Infinity will give you the most bang for your buck. You can't go wrong with any brand I mentioned. I would avoid Fosgate, Sony, Pioneer & Kenwood. MTX has some great 4 chan amps. Everything Kicker makes is good. Polk is the cream of the crop. Hifonics ZXi's are very clean too.

and to rudeguy different how? I've installed every amp in every car the exact same way, the only real difference was finding the best way to run (hide) the wire. Every car has esentially the same battery and the installation steps will be identical. And an amp kit is an amp kit. It doesn't matter if you drive a Ford Escort or a Hummer H2. I can't really comment on idiots who try to run a 2,000 watts worth of amps on a stock Escort. But the installation regardless will be much the same.

NOW if the person is trying to also install a head unit, things get a little more tricky, especially if they have a car with a Mach or Monsoon factory system. I wouldn't suggest most pro installers try to work on a Mach system lol.

 
Damn, I have an old set of 3-way Pioneers that I use to have in my old Explorer that I thought might be 4"x6" and I would have sent them to you for free but they're 5"x7".
 
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