4 Israelis shot dead in the West Bank

[dahunan]

Uh oh, the relativists are in full force tonight.

Don't worry, that pregnant woman was probably a JOO SPY! And her JOO child would have been auto-drafted into the JOO military. So basically they were killing a soldier, right? RIGHT?

JEWISH TERRORISTS??? nooo.. doves doves doves
HUH?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryat_Arba

The town is home to the Rabbi Meir Kahane Memorial Park, in memory of the founder of Kach, a Jewish religious and nationalist right wing organization designated as a terrorist group by the US, the EU and Israel. The grave of Baruch Goldstein, who perpetrated the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre lies across the street from the park and has become a place of pilgrimage for the Far Right.[7]

 

[EagleKeeper]

Yep my bad, its was the West Bank not Gaza.

But still the point remains, why is Israel occupying the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, land Israel can never own, and land Israel has no business in.
Israel has occupation/control because the arabs ceded the territory to Israel and the Palestinians in those territories afterwards showed no wish for peace with Israel but encouraged conflict on Israel population centeres

After 43 damn years its long past time for the world to tell Israel to get the hell out of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem.
Who is going to ensure that the reason that Israel is there, will not happen again. Hamas just demonstrated that they are itching for another conflict.
But Israel does not want peace, it wants to keep occupying Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem. And will never agree in any peace talks to voluntarily leave what amounts to a totally illegitimate occupation.

Israel does not want Gaza - it gave it up. It wants the Palestinians in Gaza to allow Israel to live in peace; not have to worry about rockets and suicide bombers. It is Gaza that continually demonstrates that they want war not peace.

The solution is simple, have the world impose a total economic embargo on Israel and they will leave and not before. And then we can remove the Israeli embargo just like that other Apartheid State in South Africa.
economic embargo will kill Gaza and hurt the West Bank much more than Israel. Remember, that Gaza is completely dependent on Israel as a lifeline.

But then we can have some peace in the mid-east as Israel lives within secure recognized borders and the Palestinians can finally have an economy of their own.
The key word is secure - will the Palestinians and Arab countries accept such. At present, the answer has been no.

Isn't 43 years of an illegitimate Israel occupation 43 years too long! Its long past time to demand Israel gets the hell out of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem yesterday.

And also 63 years is to long for the Palestinians and their masters to refuse to accept Israel as a legitimate state and show that they are willing to live side by side.

 

[Borealis7]

JEWISH TERRORISTS??? nooo.. doves doves doves
HUH?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryat_Arba

poeple visit the tomb of Generalissimo Franco, of Stalin (body on display at museum), and other world leaders who murdered a whole lot more than Baruch Goldstein. whats your point?

read your own quotes and notice the two words at the end: "Far Right". take a moment to think about it i know its hard for you to understand.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Remember, that Gaza is completely dependent on Israel as a lifeline.

Wait, what?
Ok so Israel has a complete blockade on Gaza, which also includes even mail now.
And you flip that around and say Gaza is completely dependent on Israel?

edit- ok I think I see what your saying now, but still if the Israeli did not exist Gaza would have it's ports.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Wait, what?
Ok so Israel has a complete blockade on Gaza, which also includes even mail now.
And you flip that around and say Gaza is completely dependent on Israel?

edit- ok I think I see what your saying now, but still if the Israeli did not exist Gaza would have it's ports.

My comment is in regard to LL hoping for a blockade/embargo of Israel to force them to play nice.

Good intentions can have bad consequences.

Should Gaza (leadership?population) ever choose to play nice, it would be able to grow and prosper due to its location on the Med. Similar to Beruit was before the internal wars in Lebanon.

 

[Orignal Earl]

My comment is in regard to LL hoping for a blockade/embargo of Israel to force them to play nice.

Good intentions can have bad consequences.

Should Gaza (leadership?population) ever choose to play nice, it would be able to grow and prosper due to its location on the Med. Similar to Beruit was before the internal wars in Lebanon.

oops and I see my edit messed up too,I missed the word blockade after Israeli.

 

[Lemon law]

EK notes, " Good intentions can have bad consequences."

Perhaps the entire recent history of Israel and the mid-east. Since the law of good intentions having bad consequences is the reality of today's mid east, why should we be afraid or more experimentation? But it took an economic embargo to dismantle that other apartheid State in South Africa, and many years later those good intentions did not have the bad consequences.

But the Annapolis peace conference proved the Arab States are willing to recognize Israel, and any Israeli rhetoric can be a smokescreen for an Israeli refusal to negotiate about voluntarily vacating territory it can never own.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The Arab states are willing to recognize Israel.

What ones have since Annapolis. Or are there conditions to their recognition.

Does recognition include also include peace and renouncing of terrorist support?

 

[JEDIYoda]

EK notes, " Good intentions can have bad consequences."

Perhaps the entire recent history of Israel and the mid-east. Since the law of good intentions having bad consequences is the reality of today's mid east, why should we be afraid or more experimentation? But it took an economic embargo to dismantle that other apartheid State in South Africa, and many years later those good intentions did not have the bad consequences.

But the Annapolis peace conference proved the Arab States are willing to recognize Israel, and any Israeli rhetoric can be a smokescreen for an Israeli refusal to negotiate about voluntarily vacating territory it can never own.

iether you are mentally retarded or just plain stoopid!!
The Annapolis conference proved nothing!! Absolutely nothing!!

The main players did not agree to anything during the Annapolis conference.
In fact the main player hamas and Iran boycotted the conference, essentially nulifying any good that could ever have come from the conference.

Hamas and Ali Khamenei of Iran called for a boycott of the conference,[25][26] and on November 23 Hamas held a demonstration in the Gaza Strip.[27] In the West Bank, large demonstrations opposed to the conference were quelled heavy handedly, and demonstrators were beaten by Fatah militants.[28] The president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, denounced the event, stating that it was "A political show for the media which is in Israel's interest".[29]