4 Israelis shot dead in the West Bank

[Infohawk]

Not even the rage of a thousand suns would stop this from being a repost.

 

[Orignal Earl]

/mosque logic/ Nor they do they represent other settlers. Stop discriminating against settlers. You can't generalize. / mosque logic./

What?
Where talking about Judaism here now. And it's many aspects and different followings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism#Rabbinic_Judaism

But if your just going to stick to your ignorance, i guess that's up to you.
It could be you need to be ignorant for some reason.
Best of luck with that.

 

[Corn]

Not even the rage of a thousand suns would stop this from being a repost.

Of for cryin' out loud, you win!

 

[Lemon law]

Ok Ok, some 4 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza. Its a rotten and dastardly deed perhaps counterbalanced by the eight or so Palestinians in Gaza Israelis kill every day.

But wait, Israel left Gaza some years ago, Gaza is supposed to be an independent area, even though Israel has an economic embargo on Gaza.

So please explain to this forum, what the hell Israeli soldiers were doing in Gaza????????????? Gaza is supposed to be an Israeli soldier free zone, so rest assured, either this event did not happen because there are no Israeli soldiers in Gaza to kill, or Israel speaks with a forked tongue.

 

[JSt0rm]

I called this. none of these people will ever find peace until the other is wiped out. Let the strongest win. It's all that can be done.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Israelis started it by occupying the place.

I agree that the action was wrong and useless. It doesn't do anything against the ultranationalist, because they are extremists and won't retreat. They just give more power to them by proving that war is the only solution against them. Which is not, because this is a war that cannot be won by neither sides.

If you want to get down to it, the UN started it when they created Israel. So, I'm going to post an unrelated picture of an American I'm going to fault for this:

See how much fun this can be?

I called this. none of these people will ever find peace until the other is wiped out. Let the strongest win. It's all that can be done.

I don't know if the utter extinction of the (Jews or Palestinians) would even end it.

 

[Infohawk]

We need to force-interbreed these people. They will have the right to raise their children as Hindus, FSM, or Buddhists. Only then will the blood stop spilling.

 

[Doboji]

Ok Ok, some 4 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza. Its a rotten and dastardly deed perhaps counterbalanced by the eight or so Palestinians in Gaza Israelis kill every day.

But wait, Israel left Gaza some years ago, Gaza is supposed to be an independent area, even though Israel has an economic embargo on Gaza.

So please explain to this forum, what the hell Israeli soldiers were doing in Gaza????????????? Gaza is supposed to be an Israeli soldier free zone, so rest assured, either this event did not happen because there are no Israeli soldiers in Gaza to kill, or Israel speaks with a forked tongue.

1. They weren't soldiers
2. It was in the West Bank

 

[EagleKeeper]

Hypothetically:

Israel manages a peace agreement with the West Bank.

Who gets punished/penalized for a similar occurence (and it probably will happen - Hamas will get bolder as their power wanes and they are not punished).


Or should Israel just accept it?

 

[Craig234]

The 'this murder was justifed by that other murder' helps solve the problem.

The escalation continued in 1882 when Ellison Hatfield, brother of "Devil Anse" Hatfield, was killed by three of Roseanna McCoy's young brothers: Tolbert, Pharmer, and Bud. Ellison was stabbed 26 times and finished off with a shot during an election day fight that took place in Kentucky. The McCoy brothers were initially arrested by Hatfield constables and were being taken to Pikeville for trial. Devil Anse Hatfield organized a large group of followers and cut off the constables with McCoy prisoners in tow before they reached Pikeville. The brothers were taken by force to West Virginia to await the fate of mortally wounded Ellison Hatfield. When Ellison finally died from his injuries the McCoy brothers were themselves murdered in turn as the vendetta escalated. They were tied to pawpaw bushes, where each was shot numerous times. Their bodies were described as "bullet-riddled".[citation needed]

The escalation reached its peak during the 1888 New Years Night Massacre. Several of the Hatfield gang surrounded the McCoy cabin and opened fire on the sleeping family. The cabin was set on fire in an effort to drive Randal McCoy into the open. He escaped by making a break but two of his children were murdered and his wife was beaten and left for dead. The remaining McCoy family moved to Pikeville to escape the West Virginia raiding parties.

Between 1880 and 1891, the feud claimed more than a dozen members of the two families, becoming headline news around the country, and compelling the governors of both Kentucky and West Virginia to call up their state militias to restore order[citation needed] The Governor of West Virginia once even threatened to have his militia invade Kentucky. Kentucky Governor S.B. Buckner in response sent his Adjutant General to Pike County to investigate the situation.

 

[Narmer]

I'm surprised this is even news anymore.

 

[Sinsear]

Religion of peace strikes again.

 

[spittledip]

Not even the rage of a thousand suns would stop this from being a repost.

I appreciate this post. It made me laugh

 

[EagleKeeper]

Ok Ok, some 4 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza. Its a rotten and dastardly deed perhaps counterbalanced by the eight or so Palestinians in Gaza Israelis kill every day.

But wait, Israel left Gaza some years ago, Gaza is supposed to be an independent area, even though Israel has an economic embargo on Gaza.

So please explain to this forum, what the hell Israeli soldiers were doing in Gaza????????????? Gaza is supposed to be an Israeli soldier free zone, so rest assured, either this event did not happen because there are no Israeli soldiers in Gaza to kill, or Israel speaks with a forked tongue.

Have some crow with the salt.

Read the article before you go spouting off on your pro-terrorists support tirade.

1) No soldiers - civilians including a pregnant lady
2) Did not hapen in Gaza
3) Hamas is extending it's reach back into the West Bank to cause trouble
4) Notice the timing - right when there is supposed to be peace talks. Hamas does not want and/or can not afford peace between the Paelstinians and the ISraelis.

 

[Lemon law]

Yep my bad, its was the West Bank not Gaza.

But still the point remains, why is Israel occupying the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, land Israel can never own, and land Israel has no business in.

After 43 damn years its long past time for the world to tell Israel to get the hell out of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem.

But Israel does not want peace, it wants to keep occupying Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem. And will never agree in any peace talks to voluntarily leave what amounts to a totally illegitimate occupation.

The solution is simple, have the world impose a total economic embargo on Israel and they will leave and not before. And then we can remove the Israeli embargo just like that other Apartheid State in South Africa.

But then we can have some peace in the mid-east as Israel lives within secure recognized borders and the Palestinians can finally have an economy of their own.

Isn't 43 years of an illegitimate Israel occupation 43 years too long! Its long past time to demand Israel gets the hell out of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem yesterday.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Have some crow with the salt.

1) No soldiers - civilians including a pregnant lady

Yes, they are civilians living in an fortified illegal settlement in the West Bank, because they believe God told them too. F*** the law, F*** the Pals, F*** most of Israels population, these people aren't just out having a picnic.

 

[Lemon law]

Here is the NYT version, turns out the Israelis killed were not garden variety Israelis, they were Israeli settlers from a West Bank settler party Israeli village well know for murdering Palestinians.

Still point taken, no one deserves to be murdered this way, but still, they had no business being in the West Bank in the first place. Maybe Israel thinks they are legitimate residents, but its still not Israel's say when Israel does not and can not own the West Bank in the first place.

But still, its was Hamas gunman who claimed the credit, trespassing on Fatah West Bank turf so no blame should attach to Abbas and the Palestinian authority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/01/world/middleeast/01settlers.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

 

[Craig234]

The Palestinian Authority also condemned the attacks, which occurred just before its president, Mahmoud Abbas, met with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. A Palestinian spokesman, Nabil Abu Rudeineh, said the attack by Hamas, the authority’s rival, underlined “the need to proceed quickly toward a just and lasting peace agreement,” which he said would “put an end to these acts.”

Even before the attack, settlements were looming as a potential deal-breaker in the peace process. Mr. Netanyahu has steadfastly refused to commit to extending a partial moratorium on construction in the West Bank, which expires Sept. 26, while Mr. Abbas has said it will be very hard to keep talking if construction resumes. Mr. Netanyahu has not struck any private deals with President Obama or anyone else on the moratorium, American and Israeli officials said...

A senior Israeli official said that the West Bank attack, the deadliest on Israeli citizens in more than two years, would inevitably heighten the emphasis on Israel’s security in the negotiations. But Palestinian officials noted that the attack took place in an area of the West Bank that is under full Israeli security control, and where the Palestinian security forces have no responsibility and are not allowed to operate...

Salam Fayyad, the prime minister of the Palestinian Authority, said in a statement, “We condemn this operation, which contradicts Palestinian interests and the efforts of the Palestinian leadership to garner international support for the national rights of our people.”

How would Americans react if these were Mexican settlements in Texas, with Mexico's army occupying the area?

 

[OCGuy]

Uh oh, the relativists are in full force tonight.

Don't worry, that pregnant woman was probably a JOO SPY! And her JOO child would have been auto-drafted into the JOO military. So basically they were killing a soldier, right? RIGHT?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas spokesman in Gaza, congratulated the attackers, saying the attack was a normal reaction to what he called "the crime of occupation."

That is a complete and utter lie.....link to the statement or shut up!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Here is the NYT version, turns out the Israelis killed were not garden variety Israelis, they were Israeli settlers from a West Bank settler party Israeli village well know for murdering Palestinians.

Still point taken, no one deserves to be murdered this way, but still, they had no business being in the West Bank in the first place. Maybe Israel thinks they are legitimate residents, but its still not Israel's say when Israel does not and can not own the West Bank in the first place.

But still, its was Hamas gunman who claimed the credit, trespassing on Fatah West Bank turf so no blame should attach to Abbas and the Palestinian authority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/01/world/middleeast/01settlers.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

As ususal you mention nothing of your beloved Hamas trying to stop the peace process.......your a real loser dude!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

How would Americans react if these were Mexican settlements in Texas, with Mexico's army occupying the area?

Thats a very nieve and stoopid analogy!!!
Given the history of that region of the world who says the settlers have no right to be there?
Other than what you Palestinian sympathizers and Hamas lovers say......

 

[OCGuy]

How would Americans react if these were Mexican settlements in Texas, with Mexico's army occupying the area?

Hello,

My name is Craig234. Instead of addressing the topic at hand, I will try and rationalize a current event by pointing to a previous century.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Ok Ok, some 4 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza. Its a rotten and dastardly deed perhaps counterbalanced by the eight or so Palestinians in Gaza Israelis kill every day.

But wait, Israel left Gaza some years ago, Gaza is supposed to be an independent area, even though Israel has an economic embargo on Gaza.

So please explain to this forum, what the hell Israeli soldiers were doing in Gaza????????????? Gaza is supposed to be an Israeli soldier free zone, so rest assured, either this event did not happen because there are no Israeli soldiers in Gaza to kill, or Israel speaks with a forked tongue.

More made up non factual hyperbole by lemon/..lol

 

[Orignal Earl]

Reading the last 6 posts it's no wonder the *Israel can do no wrong crowd* gets it wrong 95% of the time.