4 dead motherboards. Will Corsair just replace my HX620?

[theAnimal]

Originally posted by: beray

Originally posted by: lektrix
I guess I shouldn't have trusted a company known for making good memory products.

How the hell did the HX620 get such good ratings?

Most internet trained PSU experts can't read nor comprehend literate PSU labels. Not able to recognize obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5V power rail.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-002-28.jpg

Here are some literate charts showing several different configurations along with a breakdown of their 3.3V, 5V, and 12V power consumption. After you read and comprehend them, maybe you could explain how the OP's system somehow needs more 3.3V and 5V power than an OCed quad with SLI 8800GTX (27W 3.3V and 57W 5V total).

 

[beray]

Originally posted by: theAnimal

Here are some literate charts showing several different configurations along with a breakdown of their 3.3V, 5V, and 12V power consumption. After you read and comprehend them, maybe you could explain how the OP's system somehow needs more 3.3V and 5V power than an OCed quad with SLI 8800GTX (27W 3.3V and 57W 5V total).

Ha ha...

You don't need to supply elaborate idiotic cross-regulation tests of "independently regulated" from respected and trust worthy sources to know "independently regulated" don't cross-load. Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs.

Neither would anyone who are "PSU experts" actually needed elaborate tests to read literate PSU labels.

Reading literate PSU labels is just plain simple garden variety factual PSU common sense to any PSU experts. Even "PSU JOE AVERAGE" can do it... Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs of blatantly obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5v power rail.

Here's a sucked ass example --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-002-28.jpg

Here's one that didn't --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-004-23.jpg

Learn to read them so you won't waste time reading stupid needless elaborate tests.

 

[Thraxen]

beray, not only are you being an ass, you have no idea what you're talking about. The OPs configuration should in no way be taxing his PSU. I personally have a PC at home with an overclocked Intel quad core and overclocked 8800GT on the same PSU and my motherboard and other components are all perfectly fine and the PSU isn't remotely taxed.

I personally doubt his PSU has anything to do with this, but if it does it's because he has a bad unit putting out bad power. It has absolutely nothing to do with that model being insuffient for his configuration as you are claiming.

 

[Gillbot]

beray,
Stop with the argumentative posts, provide factual information or risk being banned. Your posts are inflamatory, argumentative and provide no factual content. You appear to be trolling and if it doesn't stop, you will be banned.

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[lektrix]

Alright, I'm heading out to the computer store right now. Brought my PSU along with me, hopefully they can test the rails and tell me if they're stable. I also have a Corsair advanced RMA coming.

Should I buy the Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L or Asus P5QL-Pro? Same price, same chipsets.

 

[Quiksilver]

Considering your experience, why not just go with the Asus?

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Considering your experience, why not just go with the Asus?

I agree with this. I personally like both brands and have both brands in use in my home PCs, but if I were in your place I would go with ASUS just to eliminate (or confirm) any doubts about the motherboard brand.

 

[lektrix]

Going for the Asus!

 

[theAnimal]

Originally posted by: beray

Originally posted by: theAnimal

Here are some literate charts showing several different configurations along with a breakdown of their 3.3V, 5V, and 12V power consumption. After you read and comprehend them, maybe you could explain how the OP's system somehow needs more 3.3V and 5V power than an OCed quad with SLI 8800GTX (27W 3.3V and 57W 5V total).

Ha ha...

You don't need to supply elaborate idiotic cross-regulation tests of "independently regulated" from respected and trust worthy sources to know "independently regulated" don't cross-load. Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs.

Neither would anyone who are "PSU experts" actually needed elaborate tests to read literate PSU labels.

Reading literate PSU labels is just plain simple garden variety factual PSU common sense to any PSU experts. Even "PSU JOE AVERAGE" can do it... Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs of blatantly obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5v power rail.

Here's a sucked ass example --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-002-28.jpg

Here's one that didn't --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-004-23.jpg

Learn to read them so you won't waste time reading stupid needless elaborate tests.

If you would have bothered to read the linked article, you would see it is exactly as I described: a breakdown of the power consumption of several different computers by voltage. It is not a power supply test at all.

I consider myself a PSU Joe Average but I fail to see what knowing the maximum amps available on the different rails can tell you about a PSU other than the maximum amps available on the different rails. It doesn't tell you if it's rated continuous or at peak, what temperature it's rated at, how good or bad the noise & ripple is, if it has APFC, how efficient it is.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: theAnimal

Originally posted by: beray

Originally posted by: theAnimal

Here are some literate charts showing several different configurations along with a breakdown of their 3.3V, 5V, and 12V power consumption. After you read and comprehend them, maybe you could explain how the OP's system somehow needs more 3.3V and 5V power than an OCed quad with SLI 8800GTX (27W 3.3V and 57W 5V total).

Ha ha...

You don't need to supply elaborate idiotic cross-regulation tests of "independently regulated" from respected and trust worthy sources to know "independently regulated" don't cross-load. Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs.

Neither would anyone who are "PSU experts" actually needed elaborate tests to read literate PSU labels.

Reading literate PSU labels is just plain simple garden variety factual PSU common sense to any PSU experts. Even "PSU JOE AVERAGE" can do it... Only dumbass PSU experts required elaborate tests for proofs of blatantly obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5v power rail.

Here's a sucked ass example --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-002-28.jpg

Here's one that didn't --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-139-004-23.jpg

Learn to read them so you won't waste time reading stupid needless elaborate tests.

If you would have bothered to read the linked article, you would see it is exactly as I described: a breakdown of the power consumption of several different computers by voltage. It is not a power supply test at all.

I consider myself a PSU Joe Average but I fail to see what knowing the maximum amps available on the different rails can tell you about a PSU other than the maximum amps available on the different rails. It doesn't tell you if it's rated continuous or at peak, what temperature it's rated at, how good or bad the noise & ripple is, if it has APFC, how efficient it is.

I'm pretty positive he's talking out of his ass.

Even if independently regulated designs don't crossload well, the OPs setup really isn't going to be doing any more crossloading than the hundreds of other people using the same PSU or PSU's built with the same design. His rig really isn't taxing that PSU, or crossloading it very much

 

[HOOfan 1]

Independently regulated designs crossload fine...it is the group regulated designs that don't crossload well. The Corsair HX620 is independently regulated, the OCZ StealthXstream and GameXstream are group regulated. Either way, group and independently regulated designs are perfectly fine for 12V heavy modern computers.

Reading PSU labels will give you no more idea about how they perform or how they are designed than reading a dealer window sticker on a car.

 

[beray]

Originally posted by: yh125d
I'm pretty positive he's talking out of his ass.

Even if independently regulated designs don't crossload well, the OPs setup really isn't going to be doing any more crossloading than the hundreds of other people using the same PSU or PSU's built with the same design. His rig really isn't taxing that PSU, or crossloading it very much

What a supprise...

There are PSU "experts" who can't recognize "facts" of their own expertise given to them, they can't recognize "facts" of their own expertise even if "facts" poked their eyes out, they can't recognize "facts" even if "facts" took a dump on their faces.

You can repeat "independently regulated" all day and they would still spent countless hours doing cross-loading tests of "independently regulated" --> They got no clue of voltage regulation in VOLTAGE REGULATED POWER SUPPLY. They could easily aped "independently regulated" all day in mile-long threads without knowing its meaning.

It is a fact that some 20+ yrs "PSU experts" can't get 6th grade power supply explanations. It is also a fact that Some others can't even get grade-school level versions.

Originally posted by: theAnimal
If you would have bothered to read the linked article, you would see it is exactly as I described: a breakdown of the power consumption of several different computers by voltage. It is not a power supply test at all.

I consider myself a PSU Joe Average but I fail to see what knowing the maximum amps available on the different rails can tell you about a PSU other than the maximum amps available on the different rails. It doesn't tell you if it's rated continuous or at peak, what temperature it's rated at, how good or bad the noise & ripple is, if it has APFC, how efficient it is.

I purposely picked 2 completely different exaggerated factual examples below to facilliate your learning what you "fail to see". What is "blatantly obvious and apparent" to JOE THE EXPERT do not apply to JOE THE USER. --> It is absolutely normal that JOE THE USER may not know the meaning of "independently regulated" nor able to recognize "blatantly obvious and apparent".

proofs of blatantly obvious and apparent sucked ass 3.3V and 5v power rail.

Here's a sucked ass example --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-182-031-12.jpg

Here's one that didn't --> http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/17-341-001-05.jpg

If you can see. you'll be the PSU Joe Average with more "simple garden variety factual PSU common sense" than 99.99% of other "PSU experts" on the planet.

Lots of "PSU experts" lacked even simple garden variety "independently regulated" PSU common sense.

I warned you once about trolling and not backing up your posts with facts, Enjoy your vacation. If this keeps up, the vacations may become permanent.
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[Jessica69]

Thank you, Gillbot.

 

[imported_motodude]

Getting banned must suck ass.

 

[Quiksilver]

He never learned the first time, so apparently it doesn't suck as much...

 

[lektrix]

OK, I just went out and bought the P5QL-Pro. Plugged everything in, checked all the cables, etc. but it's the same thing! PC won't boot, no POST, my PSU turns on and my video card/case fans are all on high speed but it's just a black screen! I guess that eliminates my mobo... so it's either PSU, CPU or RAM.. it's really highly unlikely that my CPU or RAM could be the problem but I won't know for sure until I test them on another PC.. arghhhhhhh, this is so frustrating... I wish the damn P180 case had SPEAKER so I could hear the beep codes but there's none!

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: lektrix
I wish the damn P180 case had SPEAKER so I could hear the beep codes but there's none!

Just buy one. You should be able to find them for a couple bucks, maybe even at some local computer shop.

Potentially since board #2 went up in smoke, the other two (now three) boards may have been okay, but without a speaker you wouldn't be able to hear the RAM beep. Dunno, I'm just sayin'.

 

[lektrix]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: lektrix
I wish the damn P180 case had SPEAKER so I could hear the beep codes but there's none!

Just buy one. You should be able to find them for a couple bucks, maybe even at some local computer shop.

Potentially since board #2 went up in smoke, the other two (now three) boards may have been okay, but without a speaker you wouldn't be able to hear the RAM beep. Dunno, I'm just sayin'.

I'll be able to test the RAM @ work tomorrow. If it turns out to be the RAM, that's gonna be quite sad.

 

[Quiksilver]

Crucial sticks do tend to die off quite often...
I also assume you put the ram in the correct slots? Should be A1/B1 (first and third slot for Asus.)

 

[lektrix]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Crucial sticks do tend to die off quite often...
I also assume you put the ram in the correct slots? Should be A1/B1 (first and third slot for Asus.)

Yeah I tried A1/B1. I tried each stick in single channel too putting them in every slot.

 

[Yellowbeard]

Let us know how it works out. I've been thru this in the past and some days made me think, "dude, I shoulda bought a Dell".

 

[Jessica69]

Been sorta through this before....most times it was RAM. Had one system with a bad video card that kept the 'puter from booting.......

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: lektrix
I wish the damn P180 case had SPEAKER so I could hear the beep codes but there's none!

Just buy one. You should be able to find them for a couple bucks, maybe even at some local computer shop.

Quick question... can you buy case speakers with the proper terminations for use on a motherboard somewhere? It is kind of annoying that many cases and motherboard don't have speakers these days. I did a quick search on Newegg and various search for speakers just turns up large lists of external speakers.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
Quick question... can you buy case speakers with the proper terminations for use on a motherboard somewhere?

Case Speaker Replacement

Google is your friend.

 

[lektrix]

I got one of my friends to bring their PC over to my house for testing.

I put my Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR2 1066 (all different combinations of RAM slots) in his machine and it didn't boot. I put his Crucial 1GB and 2x1GB into my P5QL-Pro and the machine boots and POSTs and I can see the BIOS. I also put his Crucial 1GB and 2x1GB into my DS3L and the machine boots into Windows as well. That should rule out my CPU & GPU. Still iffy about the PSU.

But damn, I can't believe my RAM is the culprit this time. I've been underclocking my RAM ever since I got it, running it at DDR800-DDR850 at times, at 2.1V, never even stressing it! How the hell did the black out kill the RAM but not anything else?