4 cylinders = bliss?

[Demon-Xanth]

This Miata is faster:
http://home.comcast.net/~cmos20/miata/

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Yeah, it also makes 10 ft/lbs of torque.

I would like to know where you acquired this information from, because the S2000 makes 140 ft/lbs of torque, which is pretty good considering it's a 4 cylinder.

Also, the S2000 redlines at 9000rpm, and remember, this is all stock and completely naturally aspirated. That 120hp per liter. Quite a feat IMO. Now if u begin to talk about modified engines that are naturally aspirated, there's a built b18c out of an integra gsr putting out 283hp and 177ft/lbs of torque(that's a 1.8 liter if u didn't know)That's way more power than a stock 93' ford 5.0 liter. There isn't any need to hate on any cars, i like all cars, i work on them for a living. Have u ever driven an s2000? Have u seen what they run completely stock? They are fairly quick cars, nothing compared to an evo 8 but still fairly quick. No need to make ASSumptions without knowing facts.

Larry Widmer built an H22 to over 300HP, naturally aspirated. Not a cheap job, though.

I think it wasn't dynoed on a Dynojet, but one that underrates torque compared to a Dynojet.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Yeah, it also makes 10 ft/lbs of torque.

I would like to know where you acquired this information from, because the S2000 makes 140 ft/lbs of torque, which is pretty good considering it's a 4 cylinder.

Also, the S2000 redlines at 9000rpm, and remember, this is all stock and completely naturally aspirated. That 120hp per liter. Quite a feat IMO. Now if u begin to talk about modified engines that are naturally aspirated, there's a built b18c out of an integra gsr putting out 283hp and 177ft/lbs of torque(that's a 1.8 liter if u didn't know)That's way more power than a stock 93' ford 5.0 liter. There isn't any need to hate on any cars, i like all cars, i work on them for a living. Have u ever driven an s2000? Have u seen what they run completely stock? They are fairly quick cars, nothing compared to an evo 8 but still fairly quick. No need to make ASSumptions without knowing facts.

No that's not more power than a stock Ford 302. The 302 makes easily 40 ft/lbs more torque than that B18C. Yes the B18C makes more HP than the older versions of the 302, but it does not make "more power". There's no replacement for torque.

ZV

How is one kind of power different from another?

Gearing is a replacement for torque.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: OS

You need only look at your own post to know why the s2k is a successful car, fun factor.

at anyrate, 6.7 sec might still be faster than your truck

Holy sh..! You mean a $40,000 sports car can outrun my $20,000 truck?! I never would've thought that!

32K, not 40K.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

Yeah, it also makes 10 ft/lbs of torque.

I would like to know where you acquired this information from, because the S2000 makes 140 ft/lbs of torque, which is pretty good considering it's a 4 cylinder.

Also, the S2000 redlines at 9000rpm, and remember, this is all stock and completely naturally aspirated. That 120hp per liter. Quite a feat IMO. Now if u begin to talk about modified engines that are naturally aspirated, there's a built b18c out of an integra gsr putting out 283hp and 177ft/lbs of torque(that's a 1.8 liter if u didn't know)That's way more power than a stock 93' ford 5.0 liter. There isn't any need to hate on any cars, i like all cars, i work on them for a living. Have u ever driven an s2000? Have u seen what they run completely stock? They are fairly quick cars, nothing compared to an evo 8 but still fairly quick. No need to make ASSumptions without knowing facts.

Larry Widmer built an H22 to over 300HP, naturally aspirated. Not a cheap job, though.

I think it wasn't dynoed on a Dynojet, but one that underrates torque compared to a Dynojet.

There's a guy on a board I frequeny who has a stroked H22 putting down about 270 whp.

<-- H22 owner

 

[sniperruff]

afterall it's all about american VS japanese: big 5-liter V8's with ancient technologies making a bit over 300 horses VS 2-liter turbo'ed 4-banger that makes 140 horses per liter (more on japanese models).

whatever floats your boat

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Gothgar
STI > EVO



nuff said...

Not around a track. Not even close.

 

[StageLeft]

I doubt the guy who wrote it ever owned a car with more than 4 cylinders. He sounds like a die-hard fanboy. The evo is fast, but so is a liqour sh*t, and it's still nasty in all other ways, just like a liqour sh*t.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I doubt the guy who wrote it ever owned a car with more than 4 cylinders. He sounds like a die-hard fanboy. The evo is fast, but so is a liqour sh*t, and it's still nasty in all other ways, just like a liqour sh*t.

So where does the evo fail? Looks? Interior?

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I doubt the guy who wrote it ever owned a car with more than 4 cylinders. He sounds like a die-hard fanboy. The evo is fast, but so is a liqour sh*t, and it's still nasty in all other ways, just like a liqour sh*t.

So where does the evo fail? Looks? Interior?

according to some, all except how it handles on the track.

personally, i like the EVO8 but according to multiple reviews, all point out the ride is harsh and the WRX STi would be a better commuter.

and yes i do realize that it really sound like some Evo fan boy playing a trick on big american muscle lovers.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I doubt the guy who wrote it ever owned a car with more than 4 cylinders. He sounds like a die-hard fanboy. The evo is fast, but so is a liqour sh*t, and it's still nasty in all other ways, just like a liqour sh*t.

So where does the evo fail? Looks? Interior?

according to some, all except how it handles on the track.

personally, i like the EVO8 but according to multiple reviews, all point out the ride is harsh and the WRX STi would be a better commuter.

How can you expect a track car to have a nice ride? My car rides like sh!t but I sure like the way it corners

 

[Bullhonkie]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Gothgar
STI > EVO

nuff said...

Not around a track. Not even close.

Oh please, you make it sound like it's a landslide victory or something when you can hardly find two cars more closely matched. It's fairly well known if you follow the two cars closely that the 'tighter' the track, the more the advantage goes to the Evo - while the 'looser/longer' the track, the more the advantage goes towards the STi.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware that the Evo will post a win on most of the popular tracks out there. Look at some of the BMI videos on Tsukuba circuit, the best lap times from the respective cars are less than a second apart with the Evo posting the fastest lap. Now look at some of the record lap times for a track like the Nurburgring and the STi just manages to come out ahead.

How much closer can you get than being a mere second apart, with victory going to either side depending on the track used? Even pure drag strip numbers are extremely close in stock form. For most owners of these cars, it's so close that it often comes down to who's the better driver. Just ask some people who regularly autox in A-stock about how often they see flip flop victories between the two.

 

[Squisher]

I'll keep my '02 Z28.