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4 Arrested in Plot to Bomb New York City Temple...

Zim Hosein

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI arrested four men in New York City on Wednesday evening in an alleged plot to detonate a bomb outside a Jewish temple.

Officials told The Associated Press the arrests came after a long-running undercover operation that began in Newburgh, N.Y.

The names and charges were not immediately known, but authorities said the suspects had planned to detonate a car with plastic explosives outside a temple in the Bronx neighborhood of Riverdale.

The investigation had been under way for about a year.

FBI officials were expected to announce the arrests Wednesday night.

Rep. Peter King of New York, the senior Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, was briefed on the case following the arrests.

"This was a long, well-planned investigation, and it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists," said King.

4 Arrested in Plot to Bomb New York City Temple...

~1 year? :Q
 
I wonder if this is one of those cases where the FBI created the plot themselves to entrap people?

In June 2008, the informant met Cromitie in Newburgh and Cromitie complained that his parents had lived in Afghanistan and he was upset about the war there and that many Muslim people were being killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan by U.S. military forces, officials said.

Cromitie also expressed an interest in doing ''something to America,'' they said in the complaint.

From "something" to a car bomb and stinger missile? I really do wonder what this person would have done (if anything) without the helpful informant.

Not that I'm excusing these people, just because they may have been led by the nose. They deserve jail time for what they planned to do even if they'd never have come up with the plan without the FBI's help.

My point is that the threat of this kind of terrorism is overblown if the only serious plots out there are ones the FBI helps to create to catch the susceptible.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I wonder if this is one of those cases where the FBI created the plot themselves to entrap people?

In June 2008, the informant met Cromitie in Newburgh and Cromitie complained that his parents had lived in Afghanistan and he was upset about the war there and that many Muslim people were being killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan by U.S. military forces, officials said.

Cromitie also expressed an interest in doing ''something to America,'' they said in the complaint.

From "something" to a car bomb and stinger missile? I really do wonder what this person would have done (if anything) without the helpful informant.

There is nothing wrong with what the FBI did. The fools convicted themselves, and you are a fool for thinking otherwise.
 
There is nothing wrong with what the FBI did. The fools convicted themselves, and you are a fool for thinking otherwise.
I'm not excusing these people, just because they may have been led by the nose. They deserve jail time for what they planned to do even if they'd never have come up with the plan without the FBI's help.

My point is that the threat of this kind of terrorism is overblown if the only serious plots out there are ones the FBI helps to create to catch the susceptible.


it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists,
Either that, or that the FBI and Homeland Security can find murderous idiots to help them maintain the propaganda to justify spending trillions on the war on terror.
 
Originally posted by: fire400
...When a ton... of people go berserk (on U.S. soil), we're going to be in trouble.

You talking weight or volume?

At our current national level of obesity, that's only about 7 or 8 fat pissed off teabagging Rednecks.
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI arrested four men in New York City on Wednesday evening in an alleged plot to detonate a bomb outside a Jewish temple.

Officials told The Associated Press the arrests came after a long-running undercover operation that began in Newburgh, N.Y.

The names and charges were not immediately known, but authorities said the suspects had planned to detonate a car with plastic explosives outside a temple in the Bronx neighborhood of Riverdale.

The investigation had been under way for about a year.

FBI officials were expected to announce the arrests Wednesday night.

Rep. Peter King of New York, the senior Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, was briefed on the case following the arrests.

"This was a long, well-planned investigation, and it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists," said King.

4 Arrested in Plot to Bomb New York City Temple...

~1 year? :Q

Damm straight the real threat is from domestic terrorists. Like Timothy McVeigh and Rep. Peter King

In the 1980s he frequently traveled to Northern Ireland to meet with IRA members.[3] In 1982, speaking at a pro-IRA rally in Nassau County, New York he said that ?We must pledge ourselves to support those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry.? [4] [5] He was branded by a judge in a Northern Ireland court ?an obvious collaborator with the IRA?.[6] He became involved with NORAID, an organization that the British, Irish and US governments accuse of both financing the IRA and providing them with weapons, [7][8][9][10] which has always been denied by Noraid[citation needed]. In 2000 he called then presidential candidate George W Bush a tool of "anti-Catholic bigoted forces." [11] He stopped supporting the IRA after becoming offended by ?resentment towards the Americans? by some IRA members following the invasion of Iraq.[12]

This guy is a tool of the highest order.
 
A little more info here...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200...ecurity_newyork_plot_6

Good thing these guys were caught before they were ever capable of killing anyone.

According to the story, these guys were seeking revenge for the wars and deaths of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Too bad we continue to fuel more hatred toward our country. The war profiteers profit, and American citizens live in fear of those seeking revenge for our killing overseas, all the while, their rights evaporate. And via taxation, they're actually paying for these things to happen. It's really all disgusting.
 
How is this possible? I thought we stopped making terrorists when Obama was sworn in? You mean they still don't like it when Obama murders civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
A little more info here...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200...ecurity_newyork_plot_6

Good thing these guys were caught before they were ever capable of killing anyone.

According to the story, these guys were seeking revenge for the wars and deaths of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Too bad we continue to fuel more hatred toward our country. The war profiteers profit, and American citizens live in fear of those seeking revenge for our killing overseas, all the while, their rights evaporate. And via taxation, they're actually paying for these things to happen. It's really all disgusting.

Nutbar alert.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
How is this possible? I thought we stopped making terrorists when Obama was sworn in? You mean they still don't like it when Obama murders civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Obama wasn't in Office 1 year ago. Besides, who said it would stop justt bbecause Obama was in Office?
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: alchemize
How is this possible? I thought we stopped making terrorists when Obama was sworn in? You mean they still don't like it when Obama murders civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Obama wasn't in Office 1 year ago. Besides, who said it would stop justt bbecause Obama was in Office?

Obama apologized to these people. WHAT MORE DO THEY WANT? Does Obama need to bow to their leaders? Oh wait..
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
My point is that the threat of this kind of terrorism is overblown if the only serious plots out there are ones the FBI helps to create to catch the susceptible.

Based on the new link by bamacre, looks like these guys planted the fake explosives sold to them by the undercover FBI agents:Q

the bombs these terrorists attempted to plant tonight were -- unbeknownst to them -- fake
 
If these guys were white it would be considered a hate crime and we would have to listen to how horrible white males are, but since they are not the are just a group of crazies. I cannot stand these double standards.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
There is nothing wrong with what the FBI did. The fools convicted themselves, and you are a fool for thinking otherwise.
I'm not excusing these people, just because they may have been led by the nose. They deserve jail time for what they planned to do even if they'd never have come up with the plan without the FBI's help.

My point is that the threat of this kind of terrorism is overblown if the only serious plots out there are ones the FBI helps to create to catch the susceptible.


it shows how real the threat is from homegrown terrorists,
Either that, or that the FBI and Homeland Security can find murderous idiots to help them maintain the propaganda to justify spending trillions on the war on terror.

The article states that the men were looking to buy explosives before the FBI knew anything about their plans. A friend told the FBI they were trying to get explosives, so the FBI gave it to them (fake ones) to see if they would actually go through with the plot, which they did.
 
A friend told the FBI they were trying to get explosives, so the FBI gave it to them (fake ones) to see if they would actually go through with the plot, which they did.
So they bought explosives and didn't even test-run them anywhere before trying a job? Sure sound scary. More like fvcking retards if you ask me.

Anyway, for a year? What else were they doing during this time that they were still running around for a year? Xbox 360 or internet forums about more killing and how to do it?
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
A friend told the FBI they were trying to get explosives, so the FBI gave it to them (fake ones) to see if they would actually go through with the plot, which they did.
So they bought explosives and didn't even test-run them anywhere before trying a job? Sure sound scary. More like fvcking retards if you ask me.

Anyway, for a year? What else were they doing during this time that they were still running around for a year? Xbox 360 or internet forums about more killing and how to do it?

Wow.

And if they had gotten the real deal and their plan succeeded, would you still be calling them insulting names?

Your lack of logic is frightening...this wasn't a game, they were trying to cause serious damage. They just got owned by the FBI.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
A friend told the FBI they were trying to get explosives, so the FBI gave it to them (fake ones) to see if they would actually go through with the plot, which they did.

So they bought explosives and didn't even test-run them anywhere before trying a job? Sure sound scary. More like fvcking retards if you ask me.

Anyway, for a year? What else were they doing during this time that they were still running around for a year? Xbox 360 or internet forums about more killing and how to do it?

uh...these idiots were intending to kill people...who cares if they were fcking retards???

 
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Skoorb
A friend told the FBI they were trying to get explosives, so the FBI gave it to them (fake ones) to see if they would actually go through with the plot, which they did.
So they bought explosives and didn't even test-run them anywhere before trying a job? Sure sound scary. More like fvcking retards if you ask me.

Anyway, for a year? What else were they doing during this time that they were still running around for a year? Xbox 360 or internet forums about more killing and how to do it?

Wow.

And if they had gotten the real deal and their plan succeeded, would you still be calling them insulting names?

Your lack of logic is frightening...this wasn't a game, they were trying to cause serious damage. They just got owned by the FBI.
You wouldn't?

 
Uh oh, we can't put these dangerous evil terrorists in an american jail can we? I mean, we know what happens when you put terrorists, or just suspected terrorists, in prison with american criminals. All hell will break loose.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com...09/05/were-doomed.html

This raises the difficult question: what should we do with these would-be terrorists while they await trial? And if they are convicted, what then? I assume that if it's too dangerous to move people at Guantanamo to the United States, it must be much too dangerous to allow these jihadists to run loose in our prisons. After all, they might provide financing for other jihadists from their supermax cells, or radicalize other prisoners, or use special Terrorist Mind Control Techniques to create a whole army of brainwashed convicts under their complete control. I'd suggest killing them, cutting them into pieces, and shipping their parts to parts unknown immediately.

I concur!! Harry Reid are you listening?
 
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: Skoorb
A friend told the FBI they were trying to get explosives, so the FBI gave it to them (fake ones) to see if they would actually go through with the plot, which they did.

So they bought explosives and didn't even test-run them anywhere before trying a job? Sure sound scary. More like fvcking retards if you ask me.

Anyway, for a year? What else were they doing during this time that they were still running around for a year? Xbox 360 or internet forums about more killing and how to do it?

uh...these idiots were intending to kill people...who cares if they were fcking retards???
Me!

 
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
A little more info here...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200...ecurity_newyork_plot_6

Good thing these guys were caught before they were ever capable of killing anyone.

According to the story, these guys were seeking revenge for the wars and deaths of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Too bad we continue to fuel more hatred toward our country. The war profiteers profit, and American citizens live in fear of those seeking revenge for our killing overseas, all the while, their rights evaporate. And via taxation, they're actually paying for these things to happen. It's really all disgusting.

Nutbar alert.

No, what is loony is thinking we can win this "war on terror" by listening in on phone calls and torturing people we capture overseas. This is yet another case of government fighting the symptoms rather than the disease. We need to fix our foreign policy. We need to focus on defending our own country, we need to mind our own business overseas, and stop trying to police the world. We need to actually stop fueling the hatred toward us. We need to lead the world by example, not by force.
 
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