3DNews.ru: Gaming/Application results including Skylake i3 and Kaveri/Godavari

[Zodiark1593]

Simple. To make OEMs to stop using them. Just that.

What's the point of this? As far as Intel is concerned, the chip and igpu is already sold, dgpu or not.

 

[Sweepr]

Another review by PCLab, including application and dGPU gaming tests.

Core i3-6100 coupled with a reasonably priced MB that allows BCLK overclocking is looking like a great bang for the buck. Faster than OCed FX6300 in most tests.

Power Consumption

http://pclab.pl/art67575-4.html

 

[USER8000]

I'm guessing Lightroom is only single-threaded or very lightly multi-threaded; IIRC, the i5 is the lowest-clocked of the CPUs in this line-up.

Something seems weird with the results though.

PCGamesHardware tested Lightroom 5.3 about two years ago:

http://i.imgur.com/J41pwqN.png

They used 30 RAW images from a 36MP Nikon D800 during the test which were 1.23GB in size.

I find it quite weird that LR6 should be all of a sudden lightly threaded when LR5.3 isn't,and LR6 only replaced it in May this year IIRC.

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

But it gets beaten by Kaveri which has very poor single thread performance. Hmmm maybe it is using the gpu?

I don't know why you think that -- Kaveri performs similarly to Haswell Celerons / Pentiums. Its nothing to call home about, but I really wouldn't call it "poor" performance.

 

[Abwx]

I don't know why you think that -- Kaveri performs similarly to Haswell Celerons / Pentiums. Its nothing to call home about, but I really wouldn't call it "poor" performance.

Kaveri likely perform much better in real use, the 2C/2T Intel CPUs are a disaster once they are stressed with two apps and just 3 threads, the hyped IPC completely vanish.

http://www.computerbase.de/2015-12/intel-xeon-e3-1230-v5-test-asus-e3-pro-gaming-v5/6/#diagramm-multitasking-test-the-witcher-3-plus-winrarhttp://www.computerbase.de/2015-12/...m-multitasking-test-the-witcher-3-plus-winrar

 

[TheELF]

There is nobody who would run the winrar benchmark while gaming,that's just stupid.

And still 40FPS running the witcher 3 on a celleron while all cores are being hammered with heavy compression work,what's bad about that?

 

[beginner99]

or

they messed up the results in the excel

or it uses OpenCL and new version 9 of Intel GPU can better cope with it?

 

[mikk]

Beta... not real. The last one before the full one (December 2015) came 6 months ago.

It's not a Beta, it is PV WHQL, check its readme and Microsoft download center where you can find much more Intel drivers by the way. Actually Intel published a new driver: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...cs-Driver-for-Windows-7-8-1-10-15-40-6th-Gen-

Intel doesn't publish all drivers on their own website but there are lots of other sources for drivers, from Microsoft and Mainboard manufacturers in particular. In fact Intel driver updates are more frequent than Nvidia and AMD. Since August when Skylake released I collected ~12 drivers in my driver folder. Saying that even VIA delivers drivers in more frequency is not only nonsense, it is just plain stupid. I think you have no clue what's going on.

 

[Sweepr]

...the hyped IPC completely vanish.

Maybe we should ask them to run Cinebench or WinRAR simultaneously so that FX wouldn't look so bad. That hyped IPC.

There is nobody who would run the winrar benchmark while gaming,that's just stupid.

And still 40FPS running the witcher 3 on a celleron while all cores are being hammered with heavy compression work,what's bad about that?

This Computerbase test, which probably doesn't represent a common use case for 99% users, has been posted 50x times by him already. Considering this is a longtime pro-AMD website, doesn't surprise me a bit that they didn't even include the AMD APUs that would perform much worse than Vishera in this scenario. Oh, and the only test where Core i5 performance drops significantly is Cinebench+WinRAR, performance is as expected everywhere else (including the other 'so called' multitasking tests). Looks suspicious to me.

 

[Abwx]

Lol you can get 60FPS in witcher 3 with the 2 core celeron?
And even 40Fps while hammering all the CPU cores with heavy compression work at the same time? That's pretty awesome!
Where is the 5350 in those benches,I'm in the mood for a laugh.

No you just have to activate hardware acceleration on the gt1,the CPU alone is not enough for HTML5 1080/60.


AES and AVX are pretty useless unless you are paranoid and cryptography everything and AVX I still never saw used.

Every haswell has 4k support, full playback of H264@25FPS on the celeron but you will need a motherboard with appropriate output as well.

Whatever integer app, winrar among any other since it s not software but thread count and app related, with video acceleration can be implemented but that s a corner case.

As for 4K at 25Hz :

http://ark.intel.com/products/80800/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G1840-2M-Cache-2_80-GHz

 

[Arachnotronic]

Whatever integer app, winrar among any other since it s not software but thread count and app related, with video acceleration can be implemented but that s a corner case.

As for 4K at 25Hz :

http://ark.intel.com/products/80800/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G1840-2M-Cache-2_80-GHz

Honest question: do you run WinRAR benchmark while enjoying your favorite games?

 

[Abwx]

..........

 

[Abwx]

Maybe we should ask them to run Cinebench or WinRAR simultaneously so that FX wouldn't look so bad. That hyped IPC.


This Computerbase test, which probably doesn't represent a common use case for 99% users, has been posted 50x times by him already. Considering this is a longtime pro-AMD website, doesn't surprise me a bit that they didn't even include the AMD APUs that would perform much worse than Vishera in this scenario. Oh, and the only test where Core i5 performance drops significantly is Cinebench+WinRAR, performance is as expected everywhere else (including the other 'so called' multitasking tests). Looks suspicious to me.

They do Cinebench ST + Winrar MT and Cinebench MT + Winrar MT, although Winrar + Witcher is more indicative since that s equivalent to a gaming usage + background tasks and that these are both integer.

The Cinebench + Winrar test is usefull for whom make a heavy usage of his pc like content creation, in wich case a i5 is inadequate for instance.

 

[Abwx]

Honest question: do you run WinRAR benchmark while enjoying your favorite games?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37920185&postcount=38


I have a lot of integer based apps running in the background with spiky requirements, heck, just scrolling this page at high speed get a 2C 2.2GHz T4400 at 35% usage...

To have an idea i used a wifi test since it imply an app that manage the wifi card, loading this page usage spikes are above 50%, it s lucky that Firefox is multithreaded, but gaming and downloading wouldnt be possible ....

 

[LTC8K6]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37920185&postcount=38


I have a lot of integer based apps running in the background with spiky requirements, heck, just scrolling this page at high speed get a 2C 2.2GHz T4400 at 35% usage...

To have an idea i used a wifi test since it imply an app that manage the wifi card, loading this page usage spikes are above 50%, it s lucky that Firefox is multithreaded, but gaming and downloading wouldnt be possible ....

What FX chip do you use?

 

[Abwx]

What FX chip do you use?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37920185&postcount=38


I have a lot of integer based apps running in the background with spiky requirements, heck, just scrolling this page at high speed get a 2C 2.2GHz T4400 at 35% usage...

To have an idea i used a wifi test since it imply an app that manage the wifi card, loading this page usage spikes are above 50%, it s lucky that Firefox is multithreaded, but gaming and downloading wouldnt be possible ....

........+ Athlon 5350, wich is much better than said Pentium C2D.

 

[Sweepr]

OP results updated, now including PCLab's review and Eurogamer BCLK overclocking tests.

 

[skipsneeky2]

........+ Athlon 5350, wich is much better than said Pentium C2D.

I would hope so.Refurbished ready to go towers with E8400+2gb can be had usually for nearly the same price or a little more as what a 5350,4gb of ram and a motherboard can cost.Still needing that case,dvd rom drive,psu,and hard drive on top of it.

The 5350 is interesting to me as a HTPC option,some old UT2004 or UT99 or Q3A or other nostalgia games would fly on it and at 25w it would be fun and damn impressive to play with.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 5350 is interesting to me as a HTPC option,some old UT2004 or UT99 or Q3A or other nostalgia games would fly on it and at 25w it would be fun and damn impressive to play with.

Its terrible as HTPC due to the broad lacking of decode capability of modern codecs.

 

[tential]

or

they messed up the results in the excel

Seen this happen enough times while reading reviews that it is a possibility!

 

[Arachnotronic]

Its terrible as HTPC due to the broad lacking of decode capability of modern codecs.

Yeah. That's where a Gen. 9 based CPU would do well.

 

[crashtech]

One thing to keep an eye out for with low core count CPUs is low minimums, or even better, >97% percentile frame rates. Sadly, this data is absent from many tests, including the ones that spawned this thread.

 

[ShintaiDK]

And prescripted benchmarks that gives a wrong impression that weak CPUs perform better than they do.

 

[Abwx]

Its terrible as HTPC due to the broad lacking of decode capability of modern codecs.

Lol, the "specialist" has spoken..

The performance that AMD is capable of delivering with such a low end platform is really good. These AM1 setupss would be truly excellent for file/media servers.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-athlon-5350-apu-and-am1-platform-review,15.html

And prescripted benchmarks that gives a wrong impression that weak CPUs perform better than they do.

Indeed...


http://www.computerbase.de/2015-10/...m-multitasking-test-winrar-plus-the-witcher-3

Two applications stressing the CPU with merely 3 or 4 threads (for the two softs, one use 2 and the other use two at most !!) and the hyped IPC of Intel CPUs is collapsing.

I guess that s why some suspect insist on single thread, as if a PC had only one or two threads to deal with.

Actualy any Intel CPU below the i7 has catastrophic IPC in a lot of occurences that are trivial for any user, in short they have very poor throughput when it is actualy needed and good throughput when it is not needed....

 

[ShintaiDK]

Lol, the "specialist" has spoken..

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-athlon-5350-apu-and-am1-platform-review,15.html

You seem to have confused HTPC with NAS.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_athlon_5350_apu_and_am1_platform_review,16.html

Unfortunately Ultra HD videoplayback resulted into stuttering

And that's the old 264 codec. Because it doesn't even support HEVC or VP9 at all. That means no 4K Netflix and so on.

The rest of your post is as big of a joke.