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Build is complete! Post-mortem is here:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...g-another-newbie-thread.2566259/post-39884459
Time for yet another WC newbie thread. I had sort of wanted to tackle this in the Watercool.de thread (and @guskline offered to help; thanks!) but it's clear I'm going to need to make my own, especially since our stickied beginning WC post is out-of-date and not really available anymore anyway (link in sticky is dead. The proper parites are aware).
Without further ado, here is the current planned system:
CPU: 3900x, not likely to go for the 3950x if that rumoured chip shows up between now and July
dGPU: Radeon VII reference card
RAM: 2x8GB DDR4-4400 Vengeance LPX. Might expand to 4x8GB if Matisse handles it well.
Mobo: to be determined, but possibly x570 Aorus Master. Or if I'm feeling cheap/weird, Crosshair VIII Impact. I've given up on watercooling board components. VRM cooling looks good on most X570 boards, and if it has a little chipset fan then oh well.
Case: Rosewill Thor v2
Other stuff not really important. I have a 750W EVGA P2 and 1300W EVGA G2 available depending on what I need.
Goals:
3C or lower delta between coolant and ambient. Overkill.
Max realistic OC for 3900x without active cooling - probably 250-300W heat load
GPU @ 2050 MHz or higher, probably not with more than +20% power limit and not with more than 1.2v on GPU. 1.3v can kill Radeon VII . . . anyway, probably 400W heat load. Maybe higher.
Current WC parts list:
MO-RA3 420 Pro (black): http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/25120
update: switched to the 420 LT (black). It's the same as the Pro, but only mounts fans on one side.
with feet: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/22200
and res mount bracket(s): http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30235
(basic mounting kit needed for brackets): http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30236
aaand a passthrough: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/50601
Heatkiller Tube for D5: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30203
update: only using one
D5 Vario: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30047
Current plan is to use two.
update: Using two: one pump in the res, one in a standalone top.
Heatkiller IV CPU block for AM4: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/18012
This is the pure copper block. No nickel.
GPU block is up in the air! It could be:
EK copper+acetal Radeon VII block: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-vector-radeon-vii-rgb-nickel-acetal
or
Bykski copper(nickel plated) + plexi Radeon VII block: https://www.primochill.com/products...coverage-gpu-water-block-clear-a-radeon-vii-x
Only other component I've looked at seriously is tubing:
EK ZMT rubber tubing: https://www.microcenter.com/product...)-zero-maintenance-tubing-10-ft---matte-black
update: I picked rubber tubing from the Watercool store. Didn't know they had it! Got 3 meters. Should be enough, I hope.
I don't want it to be pretty, I want it to be completely opaque, and I want to avoid plasticizers leeching into the coolant.
Haven't picked out fans or fittings yet.
Got 2 packs of 8 XSPC 10mm/16mm nickel/chrome compression fittings.
Got 9 of these: https://www.newegg.com/bitfenix-bff-spro-14025ww-rp-case-fan/p/N82E16835345046
Got 2 Koolance quick disconnect sets for my expansion port.
The overall plan is to mount the MO-RA3 outside the case, and use the passthrough to feed coolant to/from the blocks inside the case in a single loop. I'll mount the reservoir(s) on the side of the MO-RA3. Not sure if I'll need more than one D5, but if I have two, I can run them at lower duty cycle if full flow proves to be unnecessary for proper cooling.
Loop order would be: d5/res -> CPU block -> GPU block -> rad -> d5/res (etc) for single pump or d5/res -> rad -> d5/res -> CPU block -> GPU clock -> d5/res (etc) for dual pump.
update: plan is mostly unchanged, except that I am not only using one 100mL res/pump combo. No reason to use two reservoirs! d5/res -> rad -> d5 -> CPU block -> GPU block -> d5/res etc.
Main issues up in the air:
Fittings: what should I get? XSPC compression fittings? If I wind up with a kill coil, I don't want fittings that are going to shed nickel rapidly.
Fittings selected.
GPU block: The Bykski block supposedly significantly outperforms the EK block. Sadly, the Bykski block introduces a large amount of nickel plating into my loop, which I don't necessarily want. If I use the Bykski block, I could use something like cupramine (discussed this in other threads) and if I use the ZMT rubber tubing it might not absorb the cupramine. Presumably the borosilicate glass reservoir won't absorb cupramine, and I don't think the tubing would either, so I wouldn't lose potency over time. Still not as good as a kill coil, but what can you do? Alternatively I could just get the EK block and use a kill coil.
Power for pumps and fans: Since all the pumps and fans will be outside the case, I need to figure out how to get power to all these things. Should I be running a separate PSU + fan/pump controller here? I could use as many as 18 fans.
Ordered a molex extender and molex splitter for regular use, and a 12v 2a external power supply from Coolerguys for leak testing/fill operations. Also got some cupramine just in case I go with the Bykski block. Oh, and I got a 9-port fan splitter from Watercool to power all the fans (molex input).
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...g-another-newbie-thread.2566259/post-39884459
Time for yet another WC newbie thread. I had sort of wanted to tackle this in the Watercool.de thread (and @guskline offered to help; thanks!) but it's clear I'm going to need to make my own, especially since our stickied beginning WC post is out-of-date and not really available anymore anyway (link in sticky is dead. The proper parites are aware).
Without further ado, here is the current planned system:
CPU: 3900x, not likely to go for the 3950x if that rumoured chip shows up between now and July
dGPU: Radeon VII reference card
RAM: 2x8GB DDR4-4400 Vengeance LPX. Might expand to 4x8GB if Matisse handles it well.
Mobo: to be determined, but possibly x570 Aorus Master. Or if I'm feeling cheap/weird, Crosshair VIII Impact. I've given up on watercooling board components. VRM cooling looks good on most X570 boards, and if it has a little chipset fan then oh well.
Case: Rosewill Thor v2
Other stuff not really important. I have a 750W EVGA P2 and 1300W EVGA G2 available depending on what I need.
Goals:
3C or lower delta between coolant and ambient. Overkill.
Max realistic OC for 3900x without active cooling - probably 250-300W heat load
GPU @ 2050 MHz or higher, probably not with more than +20% power limit and not with more than 1.2v on GPU. 1.3v can kill Radeon VII . . . anyway, probably 400W heat load. Maybe higher.
Current WC parts list:
update: switched to the 420 LT (black). It's the same as the Pro, but only mounts fans on one side.
with feet: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/22200
and res mount bracket(s): http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30235
(basic mounting kit needed for brackets): http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30236
aaand a passthrough: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/50601
Heatkiller Tube for D5: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30203
update: only using one
D5 Vario: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/30047
Current plan is to use two.
update: Using two: one pump in the res, one in a standalone top.
Heatkiller IV CPU block for AM4: http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Products/18012
This is the pure copper block. No nickel.
GPU block is up in the air! It could be:
EK copper+acetal Radeon VII block: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-vector-radeon-vii-rgb-nickel-acetal
or
Bykski copper(nickel plated) + plexi Radeon VII block: https://www.primochill.com/products...coverage-gpu-water-block-clear-a-radeon-vii-x
Only other component I've looked at seriously is tubing:
update: I picked rubber tubing from the Watercool store. Didn't know they had it! Got 3 meters. Should be enough, I hope.
I don't want it to be pretty, I want it to be completely opaque, and I want to avoid plasticizers leeching into the coolant.
Got 2 packs of 8 XSPC 10mm/16mm nickel/chrome compression fittings.
Got 9 of these: https://www.newegg.com/bitfenix-bff-spro-14025ww-rp-case-fan/p/N82E16835345046
Got 2 Koolance quick disconnect sets for my expansion port.
update: plan is mostly unchanged, except that I am not only using one 100mL res/pump combo. No reason to use two reservoirs! d5/res -> rad -> d5 -> CPU block -> GPU block -> d5/res etc.
Main issues up in the air:
Fittings selected.
GPU block: The Bykski block supposedly significantly outperforms the EK block. Sadly, the Bykski block introduces a large amount of nickel plating into my loop, which I don't necessarily want. If I use the Bykski block, I could use something like cupramine (discussed this in other threads) and if I use the ZMT rubber tubing it might not absorb the cupramine. Presumably the borosilicate glass reservoir won't absorb cupramine, and I don't think the tubing would either, so I wouldn't lose potency over time. Still not as good as a kill coil, but what can you do? Alternatively I could just get the EK block and use a kill coil.
Ordered a molex extender and molex splitter for regular use, and a 12v 2a external power supply from Coolerguys for leak testing/fill operations. Also got some cupramine just in case I go with the Bykski block. Oh, and I got a 9-port fan splitter from Watercool to power all the fans (molex input).
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