37 Children Dead - Latest Israeli Air Strike

mrCide

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i figured someone who kills children because 'they are in the way' is the coward, but that's me.
 

Snoop

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It really would not suprise me if hezbollah is putting civilians and children in harms way just to further their propaganda and agenda. I have absolutely 0 doubt that Isreal is not targeting innocents and is doing everything in their power to minimize these events.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Snoop
It really would not suprise me if hezbollah is putting civilians and children in harms way just to further their propaganda and agenda. I have absolutely 0 doubt that Isreal is not targeting innocents and is doing everything in their power to minimize these events.

They seem remarkably frequent for a country aiming to minimise them.
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Snoop
It really would not suprise me if hezbollah is putting civilians and children in harms way just to further their propaganda and agenda. I have absolutely 0 doubt that Isreal is not targeting innocents and is doing everything in their power to minimize these events.

They seem remarkably frequent for a country aiming to minimise them.

I believe Israel's only killed about one civilian per 25 bombs dropped. Thats really not that bad considering the way Hezbollah is hiding amongst civilians.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: Mail5398
Hezbollah needs to quit launching rockets next to civilians. They are cowards.

Yeah the cowards are the one that go to war against a much better armed and trained army.
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: novon
When the heck is the US going to say enough is enough? Israel seems to have a never ending bloodthirst.

Lol at the idea that Israel is bloodthirsty. Have you considered that they have been defending themselves against terrorists for decades? Have you considered that if the terrorists stopped attacking then Israel would stop fighting? Have you considered that if Israel stopped fighting, the terrorists would keep on attacking? Probably not. I bet you're perfectly happy with a short term ceasefire that does nothing to stop the flow of Hezbollah rockets into Israel.
 

Mail5398

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Mail5398
Hezbollah needs to quit launching rockets next to civilians. They are cowards.

Yeah the cowards are the one that go to war against a much better armed and trained army.

So we should not even bother with Al Qaeda. They only killed a few thousand Americans. We have a much stronger army.
 

Islamistani

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: novon
When the heck is the US going to say enough is enough? Israel seems to have a never ending bloodthirst.

Lol at the idea that Israel is bloodthirsty. Have you considered that they have been defending themselves against terrorists for decades? Have you considered that if the terrorists stopped attacking then Israel would stop fighting? Have you considered that if Israel stopped fighting, the terrorists would keep on attacking? Probably not. I bet you're perfectly happy with a short term ceasefire that does nothing to stop the flow of Hezbollah rockets into Israel.

Anyone who considers the murder of 37 children is/was an effort to stop Hezbollah is a total whackjob. Where exactly are the Hezbollah fighters, and/or their weaponry? All I see is 54 INNOCENT civilians dead.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: Mail5398
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Mail5398
Hezbollah needs to quit launching rockets next to civilians. They are cowards.

Yeah the cowards are the one that go to war against a much better armed and trained army.

So we should not even bother with Al Qaeda. They only killed a few thousand Americans. We have a much stronger army.

WTF are you talking about.
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: novon
When the heck is the US going to say enough is enough? Israel seems to have a never ending bloodthirst.

Lol at the idea that Israel is bloodthirsty. Have you considered that they have been defending themselves against terrorists for decades? Have you considered that if the terrorists stopped attacking then Israel would stop fighting? Have you considered that if Israel stopped fighting, the terrorists would keep on attacking? Probably not. I bet you're perfectly happy with a short term ceasefire that does nothing to stop the flow of Hezbollah rockets into Israel.

Do you give Hezbollah the sameright to defend itself. Do they not have a right to try and free there soldiers that israel is holding. Do they not have the right to ensure that israel is unable to launch attacks into there lands? Do they not have the right to remove israel from their terriotory?
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: Mail5398
Hezbollah needs to quit launching rockets next to civilians. They are cowards.

Israel needs to stop arial bombardment...They are cowards.
Israel has to rely on their brains and technology as they are outnumbered in that region foolio.

 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: mrCide
i figured someone who kills children because 'they are in the way' is the coward, but that's me.

"Israel said it mistakenly destroyed a four-story building near a Hezbollah rocket-launching site"

You understand this word Mistake no?


 

ThePresence

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The best way to avoid civillian casulties is not to attack another nation for no reason and bring war to your people. Once a war starts, civillians will die. That's the nature of war. No matter how much you try to avoid hitting civillians, warning them to get out etc., they will get hit, it's unavoidable. It's tragic, but so is war. I just wonder why Lebanese civillians are more important than Israeli civillians? Hezbollah has launched thousands of rockets into Israeli towns and cities with nary an outcry. Sure, their weapons suck so there is less of a body count, but everyone is too busy condemning Israel to worry about the Israeli populance. THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL CIVILLIANS. That's their goal. Their rockets are indiscriminate and they know that when they launch at Israeli cities. Yet when Israel tragically kills civillians by hitting a building after warning the civillians to get out, they are condemned as monsters.
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: Islamistani
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: novon
When the heck is the US going to say enough is enough? Israel seems to have a never ending bloodthirst.

Lol at the idea that Israel is bloodthirsty. Have you considered that they have been defending themselves against terrorists for decades? Have you considered that if the terrorists stopped attacking then Israel would stop fighting? Have you considered that if Israel stopped fighting, the terrorists would keep on attacking? Probably not. I bet you're perfectly happy with a short term ceasefire that does nothing to stop the flow of Hezbollah rockets into Israel.

Anyone who considers the murder of 37 children is/was an effort to stop Hezbollah is a total whackjob. Where exactly are the Hezbollah fighters, and/or their weaponry? All I see is 54 INNOCENT civilians dead.

All I see is finger pointing democrats like you with fingers pointed and no real idea of how to stop any wars. You are as bad as the christians who think all you need is Jesus and peace will just all of a sudden happen.

How about an actual idea to support your side instead of just "War is bad, STOP IT"

 

tnitsuj

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Funny that this is the exact same town that the incident happened during Grapes of Wrath forcing and Israli withdrawal. We shall see what the political ramifications were, but I am pretty certain the Bush administration is determined to give the Israeli government all the support it needs to continue this time around.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Islamistani
Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: novon
When the heck is the US going to say enough is enough? Israel seems to have a never ending bloodthirst.

Lol at the idea that Israel is bloodthirsty. Have you considered that they have been defending themselves against terrorists for decades? Have you considered that if the terrorists stopped attacking then Israel would stop fighting? Have you considered that if Israel stopped fighting, the terrorists would keep on attacking? Probably not. I bet you're perfectly happy with a short term ceasefire that does nothing to stop the flow of Hezbollah rockets into Israel.

Anyone who considers the murder of 37 children is/was an effort to stop Hezbollah is a total whackjob. Where exactly are the Hezbollah fighters, and/or their weaponry? All I see is 54 INNOCENT civilians dead.
Of course that's what you see, you're watching on TV. :roll:

 

BBond

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Uh huh, all those children shouldn't have supported Hezbollah, right?

:roll:

These Israeli cowards are butchering CHILDREN. How can ANYONE condone or defend their actions?

KIDS BEAR THE BRUNT OF LEBANON VIOLENCE

Saturday, July 29, 2006
BY SCHEHEREZADE FARAMARZI
Associated Press

BEIRUT, Lebanon -- Once again, Lebanon's children are seeing what they shouldn't -- visions of death and destruction that may scar them for life. And those are the survivors.

A third of the Lebanese killed in Israeli attacks against Hezbollah guerrillas are children, the U.N. humanitarian chief said. Experts warn the conflict is taking a heavy psychological toll as well.

"You can't run away from the sound of bombs," said Nadine Maalouf, a child psychologist who has been working with traumatized children.

Lebanese are no strangers to violence, having suffered through the 1975-90 civil war and Israel's 1982 invasion. But parents who lived through those conflicts had hoped to shield their children.

Instead, they have found themselves helpless in the face of relentless Israeli airstrikes on guerrilla positions in Beirut and southern Lebanon that have flattened entire neighborhoods.

"There was a plane that made a pffff sound," 11-year-old Noor el-Hoda Sherri said, recalling her terror during the bombardment of her Haret Hreik neighborhood, which destroyed her apartment building.

"My heart was hurting. It was pounding very fast," she said, squeezing her chest. "I was thinking, 'This is it, we are going to die. This is our destiny.' I said, 'God will now punish me for all the things I did wrong'" -- then listed childhood transgressions such as lying to her mother or pushing around a younger girl.

Ali Kalash, 14, said that when an Israeli missile hit Hezbollah's al Manar TV studios in Haret Hreik on July 13, he and a dozen friends -- anticipating more attacks -- scribbled their names on a water tank near their homes "so that we can recognize our homes when the war is over."

His family's apartment building was destroyed in the strike, and they sought refuge in the same underground shelter as Noor el-Holda and her family.

"I was thinking we're all going to die and we'd never come back," Ali said.

U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland estimated that a third of the hundreds of people killed in Lebanon were children. UNICEF spokeswoman Susan Lagana said yesterday that Egeland's figure was based on numbers compiled by UNICEF.

"There is something fundamentally wrong with a war where there are more dead children then armed men," Egeland said yesterday at U.N. headquarters in New York. "It has to stop."

At least 443 people -- mostly civilians -- have been confirmed killed in Lebanon since fighting broke out after Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a July 12 cross-border raid. On Thursday, Lebanon's health minister put the number at as many as 600 civilians.

At least fifty-two Israelis have been killed in the fighting, including 19 civilians who died in Hezbollah rocket attacks on Israel. Three were children -- two boys, ages 4 and 8, from the town of Nazareth, and a 15-year-old girl from the village of Mughar. All were Israeli Arabs.

Hundreds of thousands of Lebanese have been displaced, fleeing to shelters in schools, parks and underground parking lots.

It will be years before homes can be rebuilt and the children will likely have to move to unfamiliar neighborhoods -- deepening their trauma, Maalouf said.

That's when the children will miss "their point of reference" -- their friends, their favorite play spots, the store where they bought ice cream, she said.

Her clients have shown a variety of symptoms, ranging from depression and hypertension to withdrawal.

Many parents say their children have become aggressive or unruly. And they relive their horrifying experiences in dreams or in drawings.

The other night, Ali said he dreamed of an Israeli soldier standing at one door and a Hezbollah fighter at another. "I was thinking if the fighter breaks the door it would mean the resistance will win the war, if the Israeli does, then they will," he said. He woke up before he could find out.

Ali and Noor have been told their homes are gone and they watch endless television footage of their neighborhood's devastation. But while Ali has accepted the loss, Noor imagines returning to the park outside her apartment with her best friend, Mona Miqdad.

Noor started crying and hugged her mother as she talked about not knowing where Mona is. "When the war's over I'll go looking for her at her grandfather's," she said, chewing on her sleeve.

Ali is grateful that he and his family are alive, saying the apartment and the furniture are not important. He does wish he had his toy Humvee.

Most of the refugees came from predominantly Shi'a areas targeted by Israel in its campaign against the Shi'a Islamic militants, and the attacks have prompted many children -- notably boys -- to aspire to join the fight against Israel.

"I want to take revenge against the Israelis," said Ali, who in better times wanted to be an airline pilot.

Eleven-year-old Hussein Mqashar, who has always wanted to be a chef, now wants to join the "resistance," as Hezbollah is known among its supporters.

Thirteen-year-old Jamil Qbeis' dream was to be a surgeon. But now he wants to be a Hezbollah fighter.

"Because Israel is destroying us, killing us and displacing us," he said.

Haidar Faqih, 13, fled his home in the Beirut suburb of Hay el-Sellum and has taken refuge with his family in a school.

"When I grow older, I will join the resistance to fight and die a martyr," he said. That way, "I will go to heaven faster. If I die at home, I will be under the rubble, I'll die helpless."


Children of Lebanon's various sects -- Shi'as, Sunni Muslims, Christians and Druse -- who do not live in areas targeted by the Israelis still suffer from the fearful sound of bomb explosions, Maalouf said.

The children, she said, had been looking forward to summer vacation. "Instead, they saw shells raining on them, people burning. It's a shock and it's traumatizing."

Anthropologist Iman Hmeidan said he feared a deepening of sectarian divisions.

"The danger is that the child will grow up becoming too closely affiliated to his community and his sect rather than his country or homeland," said Hmeidan -- something that triggered the last civil war.

The brave Israeli military slaughtering CHILDREN from 35,000 feet.

Israel may think they are defeating an enemy but in fact their butchery of Lebanese chilren and civilians is doing exactly the opposite. And our idiot in chief here in the USA, who is meeting "The American Idols" while the Middle East burns, is helping America reap the same results with his unconscionable refusal to demand an immediate cease fire and stop the U.S. armed Israeli military from continuing their war crimes against the Lebanese people.


 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Hezbollah has launched thousands of rockets into Israeli towns and cities with nary an outcry.

An exaggeration, perhaps? ;)
No, not at all.
The only time you hear about it is when people feel they have to say it while they're condemning Israel.
 

thescreensavers

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When they strap bomba to them selfs and kill jews and we cry and mourn but then when somthing happens to them they start goign nuts its a a taste of there own medicine
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: thescreensavers
When they strap bomba to them selfs and kill jews and we cry and mourn but then when somthing happens to them they start goign nuts its a a taste of there own medicine
Actually, nobody cries and mourns. They're usually too busy blaming Israel for striking back.
 

GTaudiophile

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It is war. This is what happens. I hope Israel ignores the pro-Islamic Facists at the UN and simply bombs away! I am glad that at least one country in this world has balls.

BOMB AWAY!!!