30 year olds behaving like 20 year old - new trend, or the way it's always been?

[NikolaeVarius]

Its not a matter of "needing" religion, its need faith in God and the teachings of Christ. Its up to you.



An example of the classlessness of today.



See above.

This has to be a troll.

 

[BoberFett]

I have a 31 yar old manager who had to take the day off because he was too hung over from taking the day off yesterday for opening day.

I'm effing pissed.

I had a sick day a few weeks ago, came down with a nasty case of bottle flu, and I'm 36. Big deal, sometimes you've just gotta live life. Bending the rules of "polite society" now and then is good for a person. It keeps you grounded, everyone is way to uptight and has too many absurdly high expectations from life. Live a little.

 

[FelixDeCat]

This has to be a troll.

Its sad that a call for civility, respect and behaving appropriately based on moral teaching would be considered a troll. :|

 

[Veliko]

A lot of crime is not reported, also recent "occupy" movements, riots, etc. Its not a matter of "needing" religion, its needing faith in God and the teachings of Christ. Its up to you.

Yes, the Catholic Church certainly made sure that it's own crimes against the children in it's care went unreported.

For about 30+ years in fact.

Go religion and faith.

 

[SillyOReilly]

OMG people are following the cookie cutter life you've set for them.

Oh the humanity!

 

[slackerinabox]

Its sad that a call for civility, respect and behaving appropriately based on moral teaching would be considered a troll. :|

You must be intelligent enough to realize that there are plenty of Christians who lead selfish, amoral lives and plenty of non-Christians who live productive, giving ones. As a Church goer, I think a major problem with America is Religion's forceful interference with our political process and shoving of "morality" down our throats - it will cause a backlash, maybe that's part of what's wrong with society today. When people constantly tell you how to live you're going to rebel and reject those ideals instead of looking at the positive message that may be there.

 

[busydude]

Look at the divorce rate vs our parents' generation. Also, look at the population pyramid: there are 20 million more 0-24 year olds than 25-44 (2010 Census). That means we are bottom heavy and catering to the youth (prevalence of video games, Twilight/teen movies). Also the delay of education in conjunction with fears of marriage have transformed the 30's into the new 20's generation.

What does divorce rates have to do with this?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Yes, the Catholic Church certainly made sure that it's own crimes against the children in it's care went unreported.

For about 30+ years in fact.

Go religion and faith.

Oh there were a few bad priests who were not handled properly decades ago. Lets get rid of all religion! Yeah!

You need realize things have changed a lot.

 

[Veliko]

Oh there were a few bad priests who were not handled properly decades ago. Lets get rid of all religion! Yeah!

You need to learn about forgiveness and tolerance and realize things have changed a lot.

"A few bad priests"

Someone has been drinking the Kool Aid.

 

[ichy]

Oh there were a few bad priests who were not handled properly decades ago. Lets get rid of all religion! Yeah!

You need realize things have changed a lot.

As usual you miss the point. The bad priests weren't the real outrage, it was the institution-wide coverup.

 

[Train]

I had a sick day a few weeks ago, came down with a nasty case of bottle flu, and I'm 36. Big deal, sometimes you've just gotta live life. Bending the rules of "polite society" now and then is good for a person. It keeps you grounded, everyone is way to uptight and has too many absurdly high expectations from life. Live a little.

He doesn't have a flu, he is hungover. from taking a day off.

I am doing double work for 2 days in a row because he is a lazy ass who wanted to go party. And I've already talked to him about being the least productive member of the team.

Don't get me wrong, I love to drink, I love to take days off here and there. But I dont fuck team members over, especially if I was already dragging them down by sucking at my job.

 

[LookBehindYou]

Oh there were a few bad priests who were not handled properly decades ago. Lets get rid of all religion! Yeah!

You need realize things have changed a lot.

So are you suggesting that little kiddy fuckers are supposed to be tolerated and forgiven?

Heh, way to edit your post suggesting tolerance and forgiveness to the kiddy fuckers.

 

[slackerinabox]

OMG people are following the cookie cutter life you've set for them.

Oh the humanity!

You're mistaking a curiosity with fist pumping frustration on my part - I don't care (other than a lack of friends who do something other than drink on a Friday), it honestly means more opportunity for people who strive to dress/act/live age appropriately. At a recent job interview I was applauded for having a house, wife, child, and long term goals - self congratulations aside, I like the distinction. I welcome immaturity in my peers, helps me stand out more

 

[ichy]

A lot of crime is not reported, also recent "occupy" movements, riots, etc.

A lot of crime can be BS'd away but murder rates are pretty accurate. Hiding a body is tough. The murder rate in the United States is about half of what it was 20 years ago. I'd say that's a sign we're becoming less immoral.

 

[FelixDeCat]

You must be intelligent enough to realize that there are plenty of Christians who lead selfish, amoral lives and plenty of non-Christians who live productive, giving ones. As a Church goer, I think a major problem with America is Religion's forceful interference with our political process and shoving of "morality" down our throats - it will cause a backlash, maybe that's part of what's wrong with society today. When people constantly tell you how to live you're going to rebel and reject those ideals instead of looking at the positive message that may be there.

That is true. As a Christian I readily admit I do make mistakes however I recognize them and seek to change. Nobody is perfect, Christian or atheist.

But you have to realize if someone does not realize something is wrong they will do it. I will give you a good example - people who masturbate on camera on all the video chat sites. That is tacky, disgusting and unacceptable behavior. Not to mention stupid because you are being recorded and will likely wind up all over porn sites. That is what moral teaching and religion is for - to stop you from doing stupid stuff in the first place. If you dont listen and get in trouble, its your fault.

May God help us.

 

[Train]

A lot of crime can be BS'd away but murder rates are pretty accurate. Hiding a body is tough. The murder rate in the United States is about half of what it was 20 years ago. I'd say that's a sign we're becoming less immoral.

I would say it's a sign of there being fewer murders, anything past that is guessing.

I would say morality has nothing to do with it, and people are more afraid of being caught by better forensics/criminal science. But again, guessing.

 

[GotIssues]

I have friends that are stuck in neutral as if they were just out of high school, and I have friends that are actually progressing through life (marriage and kids optional). We are all right around 30.

It's not marriage, kids, owning a home, not partying etc that makes someone mature. It's how you go about your business that makes one mature. There are plenty of married people with kids and a home that are quite immature.

My friends and I still do a lot of the same things we did in college, it just takes a back seat to fulfilling actual responsibilities.

 

[FelixDeCat]

"A few bad priests"

Someone has been drinking the Kool Aid.

Yes, a few bad priests. The Catholic church has been addressing this problem for a couple of decades now. Victims have sued and been renumerated and some bad priests have been jailed. Policies are in place and things are not the same as they were in the '50s.

As usual you miss the point. The bad priests weren't the real outrage, it was the institution-wide coverup.

Things have changed.

So are you suggesting that little kiddy fuckers are supposed to be tolerated and forgiven?

Heh, way to edit your post suggesting tolerance and forgiveness to the kiddy fuckers.

If you want to discuss things mind your vulgarity or expect no response. You are being disgusting because you know Im right.

 

[ichy]

I would say it's a sign of there being fewer murders, anything past that is guessing.

I would say morality has nothing to do with it, and people are more afraid of being caught by better forensics/criminal science. But again, guessing.

Yeah but the fact that the drop in the murder rate correlates with the drop in other crime rates suggests that those other drops aren't being made up.

Re: more chance of getting caught, not necessarily. I can only speak for Baltimore but I know that our homicide clearance rate is actually lower than it was in the 1980s. Also the braindead ghetto trash who commit the lion's share of murders generally don't worry about things like the consequences of their actions.

 

[Veliko]

Yes, a few bad priests. The Catholic church has been addressing this problem for a couple of decades now. Victims have sued and been renumerated and some bad priests have been jailed. Policies are in place and things not the same as they were in the '50s.

This went on during the 70s, 80s and 90s.

The Catholic Church addressed it by moving the abusive priests to a different area and bullying the victims into keeping quiet.

The Catholic Church itself was implicit in this abuse, it wasn't just a few randy priests.

 

[slackerinabox]

That is true. As a Christian I readily admit I do make mistakes however I recognize them and seek to change. Nobody is perfect, Christian or atheist.

But you have to realize if someone does not realize something is wrong they will do it. I will give you a good example - people who masturbate on camera on all the video chat sites. That is tacky, disgusting and unacceptable behavior. Not to mention stupid because you are being recorded and will likely wind up all over porn sites. That is what moral teaching and religion is for - to stop you from doing stupid stuff in the first place. If you dont listen and get in trouble, its your fault.

May God help us.

Well, firstly - we've jerked off since the beginning of time. You're confusing ancient hebrew law ("let's say god hates everything I personally find icky") with morality and values. Morality is concerning yourself with how YOU live your life, not others. That's called judgement and very much against what the J man preached (while I'll get mocked for saying this, I am a proud Christian who follows the 'love your neighbors' guidance of Jesus and not the bigotry of Saul and other men who had merely repeated the values of their time). Anyways, yeah. I forgot my point. I'm just trying to turn your trolling into a discussion. I see how my OP made this a judgement thread but I'll apologize, my curiosity is in the why not the damnation of people who live differently.

Honestly, it makes me sad more than anything - looking at my social media photos from 10 years ago and realizing that my life is very different and my friends lives are still the same made me sad. Not angry, not judgemental, just sad. I hope they don't find themselves doing the same thing in another 10 years, but I don't hate them for it. That's a little passive aggressive, I know, and I apologize for the condescension.

 

[TridenT]

I'm curious as to what this means for future generations. Who are the people who are actually reproducing?

 

[SP33Demon]

What does divorce rates have to do with this?

Losing half of your stuff which is over 50% now vs a much lower rate for our parents. Hence why marriage is delayed, which is why 30 somethings aren't getting married/serious about kids (OP's topic). This is in conjunction with other factors such as delayed, advanced education, a booming 24 and under population, and women in the workplace at the same rate as men.

 

[FelixDeCat]

This went on during the 70s, 80s and 90s.

The Catholic Church addressed it by moving the abusive priests to a different area and bullying the victims into keeping quiet.

The Catholic Church itself was implicit in this abuse, it wasn't just a few randy priests.

And has been going in response is a change of culture in dealing with abuse, seeing that policies are in place so that noting happens again including any possible "cover ups".

Things have changed.

Go to church.

 

[slackerinabox]

i'm curious as to what this means for future generations. Who are the people who are actually reproducing?

exactly!