3 x 30" displays in panorama - 3 video cards?

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Skurge

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Its just trying to show scaling performance therefor GPU core clock doesn't really have much to do with it. The graph is about scaling, not overall performance. Vega had 4 6970's....doesnt fly at that rez due to the limiting serial nature of the crossfire bridges. Until the AMD bridge is redesigned we won't be able to fairly compare this setup

The crossfire bridge issue wont affect 2 cards (2x6990s).
 

sgrinavi

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None of you seem to be taking into account the fact that the OP is considering 2560x1600 x 3 = over 12 million pixels (12,288,000 to be exact), not a measly 1920x1200 x 3 = just under 7 million pixels (6,912,000). .....

My reading comprehension SUCKS, but I didn't see where the OP said that he was running those resolutions, for all we know he's proposing to run 720p panels..
 

Fun Guy

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My reading comprehension SUCKS, but I didn't see where the OP said that he was running those resolutions, for all we know he's proposing to run 720p panels..
Everyone has pretty much guessed it right - I would be getting 3 of the newer 30" monitors and running them at their native 2560x1600 resolution.
are you going to gaming in EyeFinity / 2d Stereo?

Or you just a web site browser / Productivity user that requires the large realestate?

That would answer if u need 1, 2 or 3 cards.
The answer here is both - I will be doing multi-stream video editing and some development, but why have that kind of real estate if you can't plug in a high-powered game and give it a go? It's like buying an AWD car but not putting all-season tires and a roof rack on it - why not?
 

Aristotelian

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Well, do you have a budget in mind? My previous point was that trying to imply you'll get Vega like performance simply from the purchasing of the cards (as has been suggested) is misleading.

Are you interested in water cooling? I want to note that 2x 580 1.5GB isn't enough for me at 2560x1440 (min fps dips uncomfortably low at some settings in some games), so if you're an eye candy junkie you may (this is just my take) wish to check out EtheEnthusiast's setups on Youtube, who typically benches at ultra high settings/resolutions with extreme rigs. You're going to need one to drive all of that screen space.
 

n0x1ous

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The crossfire bridge issue wont affect 2 cards (2x6990s).

Possibly, but Vega mentioned that he spoke with AMD who themselves said the bridge was only designed for a max of 1 2560 x 1600 screen.
 

aigomorla

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The answer here is both - I will be doing multi-stream video editing and some development, but why have that kind of real estate if you can't plug in a high-powered game and give it a go? It's like buying an AWD car but not putting all-season tires and a roof rack on it - why not?

ok b4 we pick out cards... lemme tell you the limitations of SLI and multi monitors.

You can not full screen and still have your side monitors working unless your in stereo2d if your monitors are connected to cards which are in SLI.

If you want to have your side monitors working with SLI you need another videocard which isnt the same as your SLI cards. And they have to be nvidia for drivers to work on multi gpus.


now if ur not interested in gaming on 1 monitor, and your going full bloated 30's x 3, you will need a monster video card and not just 1, but along the lines of 2-3.

You will need an obnoxious amount of a VRAM, so i would really push either 2 x 590GTX's + 560ti (and hybrid sli -no sli bridge) the last for more ram / shadders) or 2 x 6990.
 

Skurge

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Possibly, but Vega mentioned that he spoke with AMD who themselves said the bridge was only designed for a max of 1 2560 x 1600 screen.

Im not clear on exactly what AMd said, but I balieve that the issue arieses cause in crossfire, the card communicate serially vs partially for nvidia. So When only 2 cards need to talk over one crossfire bridge. They can handle higher resolutions. I could be completely wrong here.

It just thought AMD said > 2 card crossfire is limited to 2560x1600.
 

sgrinavi

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....but why have that kind of real estate if you can't plug in a high-powered game and give it a go? It's like buying an AWD car but not putting all-season tires and a roof rack on it - why not?


There's all sorts of AWD cars out there...

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if you want to game at those resolutions then you're looking at a setup like vega's - He really covers it well including the effect of the extra vram and his experience with both colors of video cards.

I guess if you have cash to burn the it could be fun...
 

sgrinavi

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You aren't really saying that this is a "gaming rig"? It's a benchmarking rig.

He built it to game, did you read the thread?

Goal: 60 FPS gaming on 3x 30" portrait displays in Surround with max in-game settings using a sub-zero liquid cooled system consisting of a 990x at 5.0+Ghz, Quad-SLI 3GB GTX580s at 1000+Mhz supported on a Gigabyte X58A-UD9 motherboard.

Even if you don't want to go that far it is worth a read if you want to get an idea of the kind of performance you can expect, he actually games on it and is happy to tell you all about the experience, not just the numbers.
 
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Aristotelian

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He built it to game, did you read the thread?

And his set up cost over 12000 USD. Did you read the thread? I already linked to his sub-zero liquid cooling setup. The OP did not state he's willing to go to extreme lengths to power those monitors.
 

3DVagabond

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He built it to game, did you read the thread?



Even if you don't want to go that far it is worth a read if you want to get an idea of the kind of performance you can expect, he actually games on it and is happy to tell you all about the experience, not just the numbers.

You aren't going to run something 24/7 at sub zero temps and have it last and be reliable. There are people who run nitro in street cars too.
 

sgrinavi

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And his set up cost over 12000 USD. Did you read the thread? I already linked to his sub-zero liquid cooling setup. The OP did not state he's willing to go to extreme lengths to power those monitors.


Did you read my post or are you just being arbitrary?

Even if you don't want to go that far it is worth a read if you want to get an idea of the kind of performance you can expect, he actually games on it and is happy to tell you all about the experience, not just the numbers.



You aren't going to run something 24/7 at sub zero temps and have it last and be reliable. There are people who run nitro in street cars too.


I wouldn't do it either, but that's why he built the system. IMO you would have to have stupid money to even consider more than a pair of high end video cards in a system that you're not making money from.....
 

alevesque

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Possibly, but Vega mentioned that he spoke with AMD who themselves said the bridge was only designed for a max of 1 2560 x 1600 screen.


Come on guy. It's the internet. The guy is totally lying, he probably didn't even knew how to install drivers properly. He's just a random guy like all of us, not the new Messiah. He's probably working for Nvidia, or getting freebies from them for posting that.

Everyone is married with a top-model on the internet, we all know that. Come on guys, it's the internet. Stop taking ''Opinions'' like they are ''facts''. And taking a random user for the Messiah.

Those claims he made are TOTALLY wrong. He NEVER talked with AMD. Here's the proof. I'm using a Quad-Fire set-up: 6990+6970+6970 with 3X 30'' LCDs at 7680X1600, and it's working PERFECTLY. No Crossfire bridge bandwidth problems. He said it was ''crash crash crash''" But it's not. It's working fine at 7680X1600. Not a single ''crash''.

Poople on the internet are so naive sometimes. Taking everything any random user is saying for granted, and never challenging those claims.

Proof:

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I'm having a blast! WOW! Killing zombies! L4D2 7680x1600

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Just Cause 2 and Metro 2033 at 7680X1600. Working fine. No ''bandwidth problem''. :)

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AVP. That picture is not good because it's a really dark scene, and didn't set-up my tripod. So it was a ''handheld twilight'' shot.

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n0x1ous

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Come on guy. It's the internet. The guy is totally lying, he probably didn't even knew how to install drivers properly. He's just a random guy like all of us, not the new Messiah. He's probably working for Nvidia, or getting freebies from them for posting that.

Everyone is married with a top-model on the internet, we all know that. Come on guys, it's the internet. Stop taking ''Opinions'' like they are ''facts''. And taking a random user for the Messiah.

Those claims he made are TOTALLY wrong. He NEVER talked with AMD. Here's the proof. I'm using a Quad-Fire set-up: 6990+6970+6970 with 3X 30'' LCDs at 7680X1600, and it's working PERFECTLY. No Crossfire bridge bandwidth problems. He said it was ''crash crash crash''" But it's not. It's working fine at 7680X1600. Not a single ''crash''.

Poople on the internet are so naive sometimes. Taking everything any random user is saying for granted, and never challenging those claims.

Proof:

BBC2 7680x1600

5688179639_77c46d2f3b_b.jpg


I'm having a blast! WOW! Killing zombies! L4D2 7680x1600

5688388615_f5c1a4e0b1_b.jpg


Just Cause 2 and Metro 2033 at 7680X1600. Working fine. No ''bandwidth problem''. :)

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5690259494_7f037ca209_b.jpg


AVP. That picture is not good because it's a really dark scene, and didn't set-up my tripod. So it was a ''handheld twilight'' shot.

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According to your thoughts, then you are just some random internet person who can't be trusted. Wow, screenshots of static images shows that it works! Amazing! And wow, a whole 1 post! Very credible! [sarcasm]
 

alevesque

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No problem. You can think what ever you want. It's the internet.

But 7680X1600 Quad-Fire is working find here, and I've played for hours all those games without a single crash.

But Vega said it was ''crash crash crash'' with that resolution starting every games. It's obviously not. :)

The guy is not the messiah. So stop referencing him about that subject. Sent e-mails to AMD tech support, and stop taking what a random Nvidia fanboy is saying for granted.

So people can go out and buy 3X30'' LCDs with Quad-Fire set-ups if they want. No more misinformation from a newb who can't install drivers properly. It's working guys. Don't let a notorious Nvidia fanboy let you think otherwise.

Have fun everyone. Eyefinity at 7680X1600 is working fine. :)
 

Zargon

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i have buddy gamning on 3x30" dells in their native res, he has atleast a eyefinity6 6970
 

3DVagabond

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I wouldn't do it either, but that's why he built the system. IMO you would have to have stupid money to even consider more than a pair of high end video cards in a system that you're not making money from.....

OK, let's try a car analogy; If you were to haul a load of dirt in the trunk (boot) of your (hypothetical) Jag would that make it a truck?
 

3DVagabond

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OK. Vega don't know how to install drivers now, come on, you gotta be kidding right?

Well, that would be one way to explain why his system crashed all of the time. Or do you prefer the other reason alevesque gave, that he's a liar?

Seriously though, his claiming that the quadfire was unable to run at all needs some explaining to be credible. Incompetence seems likely, considering others have no issues.
 

aigomorla

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You aren't going to run something 24/7 at sub zero temps and have it last and be reliable. There are people who run nitro in street cars too.

I know quite a bit more who do.

Infact i know a builder who just toasted off one of his productions lasting for 5 yrs straight 24/7 on a folding machine.

IMO you would have to have stupid money to even consider more than a pair of high end video cards in a system that you're not making money from.....

LOL..

I think i should shutup then... lolol...

My machine makes 0 money for me, infact it loses money...
It was estimated net, 60 dollars per month just to run the machine on idle...

my office machine does that instead.
My main machine is like the replica car u guys keep talking about that sits in the garage.
When i pull her out in the weekend, i'll smoke 99% of the people on this forum.

But HEY!, PC to me is ART / Customization.
 
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at80eighty

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So, I don't think we're in the realm of 'normal' pc benchmarking here. Vega's setup cost about $12000 dollars

warning: n00b question up ahead

just wtf is that frosting all over the board? looks like the exorcist girl puked thermal paste all over it
 

sgrinavi

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LOL..

I think i should shutup then... lolol...

My machine makes 0 money for me, infact it loses money...
It was estimated net, 60 dollars per month just to run the machine on idle...

my office machine does that instead.
My main machine is like the replica car u guys keep talking about that sits in the garage.
When i pull her out in the weekend, i'll smoke 99% of the people on this forum.

But HEY!, PC to me is ART / Customization.

To each his own, I admire the build quality and the work it takes to get it there - I appreciate the work that you guys do as it benefits the rest of us.

If if makes you feel any better I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a car that sits in the garage, a painting to hang on the wall or to be the guy with the biggest TV on the block either LOL....