3 Dead in University of Alabama shooting - Huntsville campus

[classy]

Well here is the suspect

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/biology_professor_accused_in_u.html

And get this the woman sounds like she is somewhat of a genius. Go figure

 

[astrosfan315]

Tenure is a joke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

a travisty to the tenure system:

In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communist revolutionary group[2] that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s, motivated by US involvement in the Vietnam War. He is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.[3]

http://overlawyered.com/2008/07/teacher-tenure-follies/

and another as just a couple of examples. I guess she was pissed that losers like these two can get tenure, but she couldn't.

 

[NFS4]

I believe she was the professor that was denied tenure, shooting 4 other professors.

She'll get tenure alright, ten ures in jail!! :biggrin:

 

[classy]

Tenure is a joke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

a travisty to the tenure system:

http://overlawyered.com/2008/07/teacher-tenure-follies/

and another as just a couple of examples. I guess she was pissed that losers like these two can get tenure, but she couldn't.

This post is so stupid.

 

[classy]

Tenure is a joke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

a travisty to the tenure system:

http://overlawyered.com/2008/07/teacher-tenure-follies/

and another as just a couple of examples. I guess she was pissed that losers like these two can get tenure, but she couldn't.

You know several people just got killed, save the political bullsh!t for another thread or day. Dumb@ss

 

[Jeff7]

I personally think it's because Americans are generally spoiled compared to the rest of the western world and don't know how to handle rejection. This sort of thing rarely happened in this country 50 years ago. We've always had firearms everywhere in the US, it's not like guns are a new thing. These retaliatory shootings by loners and outcasts is a relatively new occurrence though.

And of course, we didn't have satellite news service, or Internet reporting, where you could hear about local news a few thousand miles away within minutes of it happening.

I really don't think human nature has changed appreciably in many thousands of years.

 

[classy]

I personally think it's because Americans are generally spoiled compared to the rest of the western world and don't know how to handle rejection. This sort of thing rarely happened in this country 50 years ago. We've always had firearms everywhere in the US, it's not like guns are a new thing. These retaliatory shootings by loners and outcasts is a relatively new occurrence though.

I agree with the spoiled part, but the fact is we have way too many guns in this country. I bet 30-40 years ago we didn't have quarter of the number of guns we have now. We have like close to 200 million I believe which is like almost 1 per person.

 

[0roo0roo]

Well that's a nice change I suppose :\

when they prattle on about everything not being equal being sexist..
well there u go, a step in the right direction ladies.

 

[Hacp]

Once you're denied tenure, you go looking for a new job.

 

[PrinceofWands]

I agree with the spoiled part, but the fact is we have way too many guns in this country. I bet 30-40 years ago we didn't have quarter of the number of guns we have now. We have like close to 200 million I believe which is like almost 1 per person.

Data from history and the world doesn't bear that out at all.

Firearm ownership rises and falls, much like crime rates. Initially there were militia requirements in America which required all able bodied men to have a firearm. If they couldn't afford one, one was often provided. Firearm ownership was fairly high, but crime/murder rates were low (from what little information has been gathered). In the 1840s some information showed that while firearm saturation was down sharply, crime and murder rates were up. Post civil war saw the biggest ever increase in firearm ownership, but crime and murder rates declined sharply in most areas. Much better record keeping began after WWII, and showed low firearm ownership, and low murder rates. Murder and crime then increased substantially along with firearm ownership, only to see crime and murder fall away back almost to the 1950s levels while firearm ownership remains 5 times the previous per capita numbers.

Many countries with similar firearm ownership have near zero crime, while many nations with few if any guns have excessive crime. This again demonstrates that firearm saturation is unrelated to crime statistics (other than the fact that with successful near total controls on firearms those specific crimes will be far less obviously).

 

[borisvodofsky]

Ugh, why won't they make guns illegal already! Then there would be no shootings like this!

That is pointless, because of the number of guns already in circulation. Through some persistence and elbow twisting you might get some of the legally owned arms back, but not the illegal ones. This worst case would empower criminals.

 

[0roo0roo]

Data from history and the world doesn't bear that out at all.

Firearm ownership rises and falls, much like crime rates. Initially there were militia requirements in America which required all able bodied men to have a firearm. If they couldn't afford one, one was often provided. Firearm ownership was fairly high, but crime/murder rates were low (from what little information has been gathered). In the 1840s some information showed that while firearm saturation was down sharply, crime and murder rates were up. Post civil war saw the biggest ever increase in firearm ownership, but crime and murder rates declined sharply in most areas. Much better record keeping began after WWII, and showed low firearm ownership, and low murder rates. Murder and crime then increased substantially along with firearm ownership, only to see crime and murder fall away back almost to the 1950s levels while firearm ownership remains 5 times the previous per capita numbers.

Many countries with similar firearm ownership have near zero crime, while many nations with few if any guns have excessive crime. This again demonstrates that firearm saturation is unrelated to crime statistics (other than the fact that with successful near total controls on firearms those specific crimes will be far less obviously).

yup
http://reason.com/archives/2002/11/01/gun-controls-twisted-outcome

 

[shortylickens]

I believe a lot of countries in Europe don't even let the civilians have guns. Or at least they're super-controlling to make everything safe.

I respect your beliefs but, you're wrong.

There are plenty of European countries with wide open gun ownership, and they still dont have these issues.

I'll leave it up to you to figure out why banning guns does not reduce violent crime. Maybe Bill Clinton can help you out cuz I think by now he finally understands.

 

[nboy22]

I respect your beliefs but, you're wrong.

There are plenty of European countries with wide open gun ownership, and they still dont have these issues.

I'll leave it up to you to figure out why banning guns does not reduce violent crime. Maybe Bill Clinton can help you out cuz I think by now he finally understands.

I understand. And yes then I'm just plain wrong, it was only a guess, that's why I said "I believe."

Anyways, the reason why I thought that was due to my room mate for the past year. He is from the Netherlands and was telling me how they aren't big on guns. Of course the Netherlands doesn't represent all of Europe though!

(This could also be wrong, but it's just what he told me.)

 

[Acanthus]

Denying someone tenure is extremely hard on them mentally.

FFS they have done 10 years of teaching and research and want job security in exchange for it. So 8-10 years of school to get your PHD, and then another 10 years for tenure... You've devoted pretty much your entire adult life to academia.

To get denied and pretty much have to change universities and start over is unfathomable to many.

 

[dbk]

Denying someone tenure is extremely hard on them mentally.

FFS they have done 10 years of teaching and research and want job security in exchange for it. So 8-10 years of school to get your PHD, and then another 10 years for tenure... You've devoted pretty much your entire adult life to academia.

To get denied and pretty much have to change universities and start over is unfathomable to many.

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[Schadenfroh]

Yikes that is terrible. I worked at Redstone Arsenal over the summer, several of the scientists there went to UAH. Heck, a guy that I work with's daughter is there. Sad story

I almost went there, but I got a better offer.

 

[Taejin]

Tenure is a joke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

a travisty to the tenure system:

http://overlawyered.com/2008/07/teacher-tenure-follies/

and another as just a couple of examples. I guess she was pissed that losers like these two can get tenure, but she couldn't.

moron alert

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow that's screwed up, and no charges laid? WTF?! If this had been piracy there would be charges in the thousands, if millions, yet nothing, and this is MURDER. There should be charges right off the bat.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I personally think it's because Americans are generally spoiled compared to the rest of the western world and don't know how to handle rejection. This sort of thing rarely happened in this country 50 years ago. We've always had firearms everywhere in the US, it's not like guns are a new thing. These retaliatory shootings by loners and outcasts is a relatively new occurrence though.

Ima shoot you if you don't give me yer xbox360.

 

[SunnyD]

So much for moving to a "peaceful" area. WTF, I thought this shit only happened in Decatur.

 

[tmc]

she is now charged with 1 count capital murder:

http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=11978812

 

[phoenix79]

I work at UAH in a building across the street from where it happened. I got to watch it all go down from a friends office window. What's scary about this whole thing is that after Va Tech they put in an alert system thats supposed to email/text/call everyone but it never went out until an hour and a half after this happened. Their excuse: "The people that were supposed to send it out were responding to the shooting." :facepalm;

 

[MotF Bane]

Ugh, tenure.

 

[phoenix79]

Wow that's screwed up, and no charges laid? WTF?! If this had been piracy there would be charges in the thousands, if millions, yet nothing, and this is MURDER. There should be charges right off the bat.

according to the AP she has been charged with capital murder now, it could carry the death penalty

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100213/ap_on_re_us/us_ala_university_shooting