$3,800 to build a new rig.. tax in, no monitor required. Spec it for meh!

DemiAjax

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How big is your current monitor? If it isn't over 24 inches, there's no sense in getting anything above a single GTS really, at least IMO.
 

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It's a CRT, 2048x1536 is probably my ideal resolution (or 1920x1440 if I have to for FSAA/etc)
 

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heh, you're just an asshole either way.

I've built 3 systems from scratch, helped fix computers/install components, solved numerous problems, etc.. I'm not an idiot here, I just want to see what people will say for entertainment value.. and, because I assume at this price someone would be inch in there a nice water cooling setup, or something I hadn't thought of, cases I might not have seen that are a good price:performance or just really good, etc..

Secondly, are you ****** kidding me? Dell XPS.. my friend was going to buy a 710 H2C (for laziness only, his job is a system administrator going on 10 years now..) and I convinced him out of it, and his price dropped from $5,500 to $3,500 for the SAME EXACT system.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: xtwells
heh, you're just an asshole either way.

I've built 3 systems from scratch, helped fix computers/install components, solved numerous problems, etc.. I'm not an idiot here, I just want to see what people will say for entertainment value.. and, because I assume at this price someone would be inch in there a nice water cooling setup, or something I hadn't thought of, cases I might not have seen that are a good price:performance or just really good, etc..

Secondly, are you ****** kidding me? Dell XPS.. my friend was going to buy a 710 H2C (for laziness only, his job is a system administrator going on 10 years now..) and I convinced him out of it, and his price dropped from $5,500 to $3,500 for the SAME EXACT system.

Unfortunately, this forum wasn't created for your entertainment.

And speaking of laziness...
 

undeclared

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laziness? dude when im bored I price a complete system.. I just wanna see what people will post. geez.
 

chizow

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omgroflmao.....

oh man I just ate.....gawd.

but ya, usually people make some effort first or give some background on what they'll be using it for, what they're planning to port over, what features they're looking for etc. etc.
 

Pwnbroker

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since:
1. you're an ass, and
2. you're rude, and
c. you're an ass
here you go

For the money, I'll sell you 50 IBM Aptiva's with pentium 100s and let you piece them together. Should be a rockin system
 

tcsenter

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Spend $800 on a system that will be subjectively imperceptible from a $3800 system unless you're overly and stupidly concerned with synthetic benchmark scores, put $3000 into a high-yield savings account.

18 months from now, when all the components in your would-be $3800 top-of-line system are readily being outperformed by newer stuff and you're wishing you hadn't spent so much on rapidly depreciating computer components, you'll still have plenty of money to upgrade again.
 

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tcsenter: you are right and you are wrong I would say..

I remember when my older brother bought our 486-66, 32mb ram, 2mb video card, with a TURBO switch, and a MASSIVE 300 meg hd (or was it the massive 2 gig hd, I don't recall)

And for a few years, it was a great rig.. and then we needed to buy a P133 to be able to play quake II (quake I was great.. hah still is sort of..)

I don't expect anything less of this rig, except that even in a few years, quad core still will be above standard, and even if my benchmark scores suck, well my dual video (or single video not sure yet) will still be able to perform decently for more than 5 years I believe.

For example, a 7800 GTX is still a good graphics card although it is almost considered old (but quite good regardless)

Maybe after a few years, my 8800 setup will be obsolete, or ATI will come out with something 100 times better, but the point being:

1) am I happy with what I got?
2) Does it satisfy my needs?
3) Will it last a while? (eg, my athlon XP system is like an old car that no matter how many upgrades/fixes I can't get the performance of the latest rigs..)

In a year, 2 years, 3 years, if my system is complete crap and I can't play anything, then I'll just do what I always do. Upgrade a bit by bit, until it's stable and up to my expectations.

Thing is though, I really don't expect this to happen for longer than that, because I expect the shelf-life of the latest systems to be quite a bit longer... as it's not like the difference between a 2ghz P4 and 2Ghz Athlon 64 right now, but moreso the difference between a Dual-Core AMD and Dual/Quad-core Intel.

The competition, I'm sure will bring a lot of new tech on our plate, but I'm not the type of guy that upgrades every 15 minutes (unless of course, I just bought some stuff and something twice as good came out.. then I would be mad), but its kind of like this..

You spin the wheel and it has to stop at some point.
I say things like this to myself:
"I'll buy it when the ATI R600 comes out"
"I'll buy it when AMD's quad core comes out and see how their 8-core systems will compete"
etc..
But in the end you just gotta stop and buy something.

This rig will be the first time I have actually been able to game anything higher than 1024x768 or 1280x1024, on a monitor that supports resolutions I've never played games in, etc.. I look forward to it.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: xtwells
heh, you're just an asshole either way.

I've built 3 systems from scratch, helped fix computers/install components, solved numerous problems, etc.. I'm not an idiot here, I just want to see what people will say for entertainment value.. and, because I assume at this price someone would be inch in there a nice water cooling setup, or something I hadn't thought of, cases I might not have seen that are a good price:performance or just really good, etc..

Secondly, are you ****** kidding me? Dell XPS.. my friend was going to buy a 710 H2C (for laziness only, his job is a system administrator going on 10 years now..) and I convinced him out of it, and his price dropped from $5,500 to $3,500 for the SAME EXACT system.

fvck off comes to mind :) hahhaha, now that is entertaining :thumbsdown:
 

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Spend $800 on a system that will be subjectively imperceptible from a $3800 system unless you're overly and stupidly concerned with synthetic benchmark scores, put $3000 into a high-yield savings account.

18 months from now, when all the components in your would-be $3800 top-of-line system are readily being outperformed by newer stuff and you're wishing you hadn't spent so much on rapidly depreciating computer components, you'll still have plenty of money to upgrade again.

/thread
 

asianboi2k

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You would be a idiot to spend $3800 on a PC because of the warranty is only a year if a component breaks after a year your done. I say go for a max value of 1000 to 1500 at the max you should be able to get something with speed and memory.
Save the rest to buy a big screen tv.
 

undeclared

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asianboi2k, some info on warranty:
- video card from some manufacturers is lifetime, often 3, etc..
- hds are 3 to 5 years (I always nab the ones with 5 years personally..)
- retail box CPUs are always 3 years (OEMs are 1)
- Motherboards really vary (but I've had more than a few with 3 years)
- Cases never need to be warrantied (unless you suck at putting components in.. in which case, well I've never RMA'd a case)
- DVD writers are probably 1 year, but at $35 a pop right now, it breaks, buy a new one without breaking a sweat
- Ram is extremely often lifetime warranty (and if not, you can just search out that ram on purpose.. you'll find)

Not sure about sound cards, ethernet cards (anyone use these anymore?) and other components, but this has been my general experience..

The only exception to all of the above is that if your water cooling leaks and the manufacturer finds out.. well you might have no waranty anymore =/