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2nd set Democrat debates

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s0me0nesmind1 said:
HAhahahahahahahahhahahhaha goodluck with that narrative....

Telling American parents to take responsibility for their own children.

That's funny. Goodluck with that message - especially when targetting lefties. They are the queens of this

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Not isolated to "leftie" parents.
Entitlement knows no political boundaries
 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/17/opinion/sunday/kevin-cooper-california-death-row.html
This is the story of a broken justice system. It appears that an innocent man was framed by sheriff’s deputies and is on death row in part because of dishonest cops, sensational media coverage and flawed political leaders — including Democrats like Brown and Kamala Harris, the state attorney general before becoming a U.S. senator, who refused to allow newly available DNA testing for a black man convicted of hacking to death a beautiful white family and young neighbor. This was a failure at every level, and it should prompt reflection not just about one man on death row but also about profound inequities in our entire system of justice.
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Gavin Newsom orders new DNA testing in 1983 murder case after petition by death row inmate

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html

In February, California Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered new DNA testing in the 1983 murder case of Kevin Cooper. Cooper came within hours of execution in 2004 after being charged with the murders of an adult couple and two children. Harris opposed the testing when she was the state’s attorney general.

She has since said she supports DNA testing and encouraged Newsom to approve Cooper’s request. She did not offer specifics on why she did not approve the testing during her tenure.
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KAMALA HARRIS FAILS TO EXPLAIN WHY SHE DIDN’T PROSECUTE STEVEN MNUCHIN’S BANK

If Kamala is in the General and Trump has to debate her one of his stunts will probably be having Steve Mnuchin in the front row and then talking about how her staff recommended the prosecution of the One West bank which Mnuchin was an executive off at the time. Kamala didn't do it even though strong evidence indicated that One West foreclosed early on elderly people. Then he'll ask Mnuchin to state who was the only Democratic Member campaigning for federal office that he donated to in 2016... of course Mnuchin will point to Kamala

The point is as someone else made. Kamala is a prosecutor throughout her career as such she was able to prosecute defendants who had no option of looking at Kamala's record and throwing it at her face. When someone did in the past couple of days she was flustered... she was not the calm cool person people say she would be. Imagine if Trump got at her... He'd be far harder on Kamala her than Tulsi was.


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s0me0nesmind1 said:
Lol and how did you know they were conservative parents? They came to a NY public school in their matching family MAGA hats?
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Anecdotally, I'm in a strong Republican area and I see a ton of this. I'd be shocked if the teachers I know who work in Republican dominated areas don't see it as well.

I don't have any nationwide statistics, but the attitude in the cartoon fits far better with a Republican mindset than a Democrat one. Look at the current Republican President and his party. Blaming others for their own mistakes is rife among them, far more so than the Democrats. The Right as a whole is also far more likely to make decisions based on emotions over facts as well, which I'd imagine would line up with blaming others for their children's actions. Law and order is obviously far stronger point for the Left over the Right as well, and that's something that started way before trump ever came into the picture, which you would assume goes with a respect for rightful authority. So unless you have some sort of statistics about it then I don't see any reason why you'd associate that behavior with the Left over the Right.

It could be an odd bipartisan issue, like the anti-vaxers. Where you get the extremes from both sides. But the more I think about it the more likely it would tie in with the modern day conservative mindset. 20+ years ago I think you would have an argument for the Right being 'better' on this issue, but not any more. Tough to say when exactly the switch happened, but I see the Trump era as more of a result of a trend rather than a switch.
 
UglyCasanova said:
I’m watching the 2nd night now. I swear every response somehow circles back to "the children".
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I'll save you 2 hours..

Biden survived.
Kamala stumbled.
Tulsi gained.
Yang made his presence felt.
Jay Inslee is a climate change expert.

And the winner of the debate wasn't even in the debate.. the first night's winners won the second debate.
 
Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard have reached the 130k individual donor part for qualifying for the September elections.

We need people there to keep on exposing Kamala's terrible record as a prosecutor.


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blankslate said:
Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard have reached the 130k individual donor part for qualifying for the September elections.

We need people there to keep on exposing Kamala's terrible record as a prosecutor.


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Do you think Harris has a chance at winning the primary?

Or you just need to be sure that she doesn't?

Like why focus your attention to the #4 (or lower) candidate?
 
Starbuck1975 said:
Gabbard’s epic takedown of Harris is not propaganda. Even more hilarious is Harris’ whining as a “top tier” candidate considering that the only reason she broke from the herd was her self-serving attack on Biden that shifted the focus from policy and Trump to race.
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I think Biden has other issues.

He trusted segregationists.
He trusted Clarence Thomas.
He trusted George W. Bush.
He trusted Mitch McConnell.

The guy sure has some very bad judgment imo.
 
Indus said:
I think Biden has other issues.

He trusted segregationists.
He trusted Clarence Thomas.
He trusted George W. Bush.
He trusted Mitch McConnell.

The guy sure has some very bad judgment imo.
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Every candidate has issues. Harris chose to go after Biden in the most divisive way possible to save her lagging poll numbers.

I’m far more interested in Biden v Warren and Sanders.

Also, Obama is now apparently the greatest Republican president to ever live.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
Every candidate has issues. Harris chose to go after Biden in the most divisive way possible to save her lagging poll numbers.

I’m far more interested in Biden v Warren and Sanders.

Also, Obama is now apparently the greatest Republican president to ever live.
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Well to be honest.. obamacare is a Republican idea and the insurance companies are raking in huge profits.

Universal Single Payer is the democratic idea.

You know this.

Other than that I don't see how he's a republican in the slightest.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
Gabbard’s epic takedown of Harris is not propaganda. Even more hilarious is Harris’ whining as a “top tier” candidate considering that the only reason she broke from the herd was her self-serving attack on Biden that shifted the focus from policy and Trump to race.
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That's not what I was talking about.
 
Indus said:
Well to be honest.. obamacare is a Republican idea and the insurance companies are raking in huge profits.

Universal Single Payer is the democratic idea.

You know this.

Other than that I don't see how he's a republican in the slightest.
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It was more an observation that the right wing social media sphere is rallying to Obama’s defense given that the last debate certainly held is legacy under scrutiny.
 
I watch both debates and became more familiar with the contestants. I came to no conclusions but saw lots of things I like. I did not like the attacks on other candidates. I pay attention to the news but pay it no attention at all as to how it tries to tell me what I say. Why would I care what idiots say when I can listen to me. 🙂 I want Yang and am hoping to get Warren. By the way, Sanders isn't shouting at clouds. He is outraged by the injustice of the American Capitalist system that has destroyed our democracy. But we can't have angry people running around and telling the truth, can we. They could upset somebody and cost others billions in stolen income. Very dangerous indeed. Needs a padded cell.

PS I recommend those as a safe place to find out what you really feel. It just placebo, (inhibition reducing with the safety feature of apparent restraint) but placebo is real and it helps. We are our attitude.
 
jackstar7 said:
Do you think Harris has a chance at winning the primary?

Or you just need to be sure that she doesn't?

Like why focus your attention to the #4 (or lower) candidate?
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She might be a VP pick for a candidate who could win the Primary... she'd be a horrid VP as well


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I think Yang has the boldest ideas and comes across as more intelligent than most of the others. I’m wrestling with how I feel about it but at least he can back up his proposals beyond "I want to get elected so here’s some free shit to buy your votes".
 
Bitek said:
Not isolated to "leftie" parents.
Entitlement knows no political boundaries
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i know right, s0me0enelse'sm1nd just might BLOW if someone told him just what kind of parents raise holy hell against teachers at school for teaching their precious kids the dangers of evil evolution and oh no! SEX! and oh yeah, them sinful "Arab numbers!"
 
UglyCasanova said:
I think Yang has the boldest ideas and comes across as more intelligent than most of the others. I’m wrestling with how I feel about it but at least he can back up his proposals beyond "I want to get elected so here’s some free shit to buy your votes".
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What the fuck are you talking about? He's literally offering to give people $1000 a month.
 
Indus said:
Well to be honest.. obamacare is a Republican idea and the insurance companies are raking in huge profits.

Universal Single Payer is the democratic idea.

You know this.

Other than that I don't see how he's a republican in the slightest.
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Biden is pro NRA, that alone should disqualify him as a democratic candidate. He said it himself in the first debate that was held.
 
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