$27 million 7-day Creationism Museum set to open in KY

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May 25, 2007, 11:27 a.m. EDT

Hammers are pounding, dust is flying, and paint fumes are unavoidable, but hundreds of charter members of the new Creation Museum are undeterred and continue to peruse the mostly finished exhibits.

The museum is set to open Monday, amid much controversy and probably an equal amount of support. The $27 million needed to build the complex was almost all raised through donations, which came in from all corners of the country.

A group called Answers in Genesis (or AiG) came up with the idea of the museum, did the fundraising, and now runs it. AiG, which started many years ago in San Diego, calls itself an "apologetics" ministry, meaning it defends Christianity.

The basis of AiG and the Creation Museum is that the Bible is true and is the authority and that, taken literally, it can explain how the Earth came to be and how humanity got where it is today.

Mark Looy, a co-founder of AiG, said that the musuem should "educate Christians so they have the knowledge and evidence to defend their beliefs when people question them."

Looy claims that he, too, was an evolutionist before he looked into creationism and after much research, he said, he found that creationism made more sense to him and answered his questions more satisfactorily. He hopes that the museum will help others come to the same conclusion.

"It's a great place for children who are in public school and haven't really decided what to believe yet," he said.

The museum itself is impressive in size and scale. The exhibits illustrate the various beliefs and mission of AiG. One room shows two archaeologists digging up dinosaur fossils, one is an evolutionist the other a creationist. The exhibit explains that they both are looking at the same evidence but come up with different conclusions.

The tour continues to take visitors through a series of rooms. One depicts biblical times and the prophets, the next shows Martin Luther posting his 95 Theses, the printing press, and the Scopes monkey trial of 1925. Visitors are then led through rooms depicting modern times, where exhibits imply that a lack of faith hurts the family and society.

The next part of the tour journeys through the various stories of Genesis, including the Garden of Eden and Noah's Ark, and marries them with science. Adam and Eve are seen living alongside dinosaurs and Noah's Ark is used to explain why certain species went extinct.

Besides the many painstakingly detailed exhibits, the museum also boasts a large special-effects theater complete with seats that can rumble or jerk slightly to create the feeling of movement and can also surround you in mist. There is also a planetarium, restaurant, landscaped outdoor walking trails, and, of course, a bookstore and gift shop -- this one has a medieval theme.

Christians and atheists alike could be impressed by the time, labor, and cost being put into this museum. Looy said AiG encourages all people to come out and see its alternative to evolution.

The creative muscle behind the Creation Museum is AiG founder and former biology teacher, Ken Ham, a Young Earth Creationist who believes the planet, its life forms and the universe were forged during a six-day period occurring 10,000 years ago.

"I want to make it clear that we don't want to be known primarily as Young Earth Creationists," Ham said. "AiG's main thrust is on biblical authority. Believing in a relatively young Earth is a consequence of accepting the word of God as an infallible revelation from our Creator."

The Creation Museum is a high-tech facility loaded with animatronic displays, videos, a planetarium and the Special Effects Theater spread out over 60,000 square feet. Guests will gaze upon the history of the world through 55 high-definition monitors and scores of displays based on what AiG calls the Bible's "seven 'C's' of history": creation, corruption, catastrophe, confusion, Christ, cross and consummation.

Yellow Springs author/evangelist Larry Silver, who converted to Christianity from Judaism 25 years ago, believes AiG's view of the Creation is accurate.

"My gut feeling tells me the Hebrew word for day in Genesis is a 24-hour day," said Silver, whose latest book is Christian Identity. "The history of mankind is less than 10,000 years old. You can calculate that from Adam on. What the Earth was before is a mystery. All we know now is what God has told us."

The new museum is being skewered by scientists and educators who reject AiG's controversial claims.

"This so-called Creation Museum is the institutionalization of a lie," said Lawrence Krauss, professor of physics and chemistry at Cleveland's Case Western Reserve University. "It's not about religion. It's about scientific fraud."

Sam Schloemer, a member of the Ohio Board of Education, said: "This systematic undermining of science education has dangerous consequences for our nations's future."

So will secular scientists actually go there with an open mind and evaluate the evidence? Or is evolution their blind religion?

Will libs respect the freedoms of speech and religion, and engage students in mindful discussions on the scientific evidence presented there? Or will they try to shut down this place because it offers scientific evidence for God and Creation? Give it bad press in the lib media?
 

UberNeuman

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Will Jesus be displayed riding a triceratops? - these questions and more will be answered!
 

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Since I know this question will be raised, I thought I'd go ahead and answer it with an article:

Can creationists be scientists?

It has been often said that ?creationists cannot be real scientists.?

...

Consider Dr. Russ Humphreys, a Ph.D. nuclear physicist who has developed (among many other things) a model to compute the present strength of planetary magnetic fields which was able to predict the field strengths of the outer planets. Did a belief in the Bible hinder his research? Not at all.

Additionally, ... [t]he MRI scanner was developed by the creationist Dr. Raymond Damadian who has been featured twice in Creation magazine.

Clearly, creationists can indeed be real scientists.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/us/newsletters/0405lead.asp
 

nonameo

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Since I know this question will be raised, I thought I'd go ahead and answer it with an article:

Can creationists be scientists?

It has been often said that ?creationists cannot be real scientists.?

...

Consider Dr. Russ Humphreys, a Ph.D. nuclear physicist who has developed (among many other things) a model to compute the present strength of planetary magnetic fields which was able to predict the field strengths of the outer planets. Did a belief in the Bible hinder his research? Not at all.

Additionally, ... [t]he MRI scanner was developed by the creationist Dr. Raymond Damadian who has been featured twice in Creation magazine.

Clearly, creationists can indeed be real scientists.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/us/newsletters/0405lead.asp

Creationists can be scientists, but creationism isn't science.
 

Moonbeam

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Billions in tithes stand to be lost if the people ever figure out that what they were taught from the Bible is a joke.
 

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The tour continues to take visitors through a series of rooms. One depicts biblical times and the prophets, the next shows Martin Luther posting his 95 Theses, the printing press, and the Scopes monkey trial of 1925. Visitors are then led through rooms depicting modern times, where exhibits imply that a lack of faith hurts the family and society.

The next part of the tour journeys through the various stories of Genesis, including the Garden of Eden and Noah's Ark, and marries them with science. Adam and Eve are seen living alongside dinosaurs and Noah's Ark is used to explain why certain species went extinct.

This isn't science, it's religion. I can't even see any arguable reason for this to even be considered 'science'. The only way for someone to accept this as science is if their mind was so open everything fell out.

Thank goodness only nutcases in the laughingstock we call the Kentucky board of education consider this drivel and storytelling to be anything close to 'science'.
 

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Originally posted by: nonameo
Creationists can be scientists, but creationism isn't science.

Creation models make predictions about the observable world, predictions that are falsifiable and can tested empirically. Much of the Creation literature is this nature of study, which is most certainly scientific...
 

Trevelyan

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
The tour continues to take visitors through a series of rooms. One depicts biblical times and the prophets, the next shows Martin Luther posting his 95 Theses, the printing press, and the Scopes monkey trial of 1925. Visitors are then led through rooms depicting modern times, where exhibits imply that a lack of faith hurts the family and society.

The next part of the tour journeys through the various stories of Genesis, including the Garden of Eden and Noah's Ark, and marries them with science. Adam and Eve are seen living alongside dinosaurs and Noah's Ark is used to explain why certain species went extinct.

This isn't science, it's religion. I can't even see any arguable reason for this to even be considered 'science'. The only way for someone to accept this as science is if their mind was so open everything fell out.

Thank goodness only nutcases in the laughingstock we call the Kentucky board of education consider this drivel and storytelling to be anything close to 'science'.

The scientists who believe in Creation are not simply trying to empirically prove that God created the world in 6 days... they are showing how historical events recorded in the Bible are fully compatible with empirical evidence. They are offering a framework hypothesis, a model -- like evolution does -- to explain the facts.
 

sandorski

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Waste of $$.

OP, no I will never go there. It has nothing scientific to pique any interest.
 

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Oh, and I forgot to mention -- I visited the museum last year when it was under construction. They've definitely done a respectable job in terms of quality. And despite those who would label them "backwards Kentuckians," their team of PhD scientists have done excellent work both in research and presentation.
 

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Oh, and I forgot to mention -- I visited the museum last year when it was under construction. They've definitely done a respectable job in terms of quality. And despite those who would label them "backwards Kentuckians," their team of PhD scientists have done excellent work both in research and presentation.

I knew a large portion of the resident fundies would be supporting and going there.
 

UberNeuman

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I wonder when Bible: Part 2 will come out. Seems to have been quiet since Bible: Part 1 - guess "god and gang" have little to say these days.... They went away....
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Noahs Ark? Lol. Good luck fitting millions of species into a boat... brainwashed nuts.

It only held a few.....which then evolved into the plethora of animals we see today. I wonder what happened to all the plants though?
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Since I know this question will be raised, I thought I'd go ahead and answer it with an article:

Can creationists be scientists?

It has been often said that ?creationists cannot be real scientists.?

...

Consider Dr. Russ Humphreys, a Ph.D. nuclear physicist who has developed (among many other things) a model to compute the present strength of planetary magnetic fields which was able to predict the field strengths of the outer planets. Did a belief in the Bible hinder his research? Not at all.

Additionally, ... [t]he MRI scanner was developed by the creationist Dr. Raymond Damadian who has been featured twice in Creation magazine.

Clearly, creationists can indeed be real scientists.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/us/newsletters/0405lead.asp

His area of research has nothing to do with origins of the universe or man. I think it's fair to say that young Earth creationists cannot be evolutionists or geologists (at least not honest ones) but if you're researching nuclear physics or biochemistry then there's no reason your YEC belief should conflict with your work.
 

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Originally posted by: hellokeith
So will secular scientists actually go there with an open mind and evaluate the evidence? Or is evolution their blind religion?

Will libs respect the freedoms of speech and religion, and engage students in mindful discussions on the scientific evidence presented there? Or will they try to shut down this place because it offers scientific evidence for God and Creation? Give it bad press in the lib media?

Sure we will.

When the day comes when Creationists actually HAVE real, scientific evidence to back up their fairy tale we will listen.

To this day, they have none and that which they do claim as evidence (transitional fossils, Grand Canyon, fossil bed formations) has all been debunked.
 

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A monument to willful ignorance and our collective delusions of self importance.

How grand.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: K1052
A monument to willful ignorance and our collective delusions of self importance.

How grand.

It is amazing that your statement describes Democrats to a tee also. I guess they have more in common with the religious nuts than they think.
 

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Three hundred years of science and advancement are going down the tubes in the U.S.
Get ready for Dark Ages 2. If you liked the original you'll love the sequel.
 

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Waste of $$.

OP, no I will never go there. It has nothing scientific to pique any interest.
You *should* go there. :p

They have some interesting theories on how to disprove carbon dating, actually.

It's also interesting to look at their analysis of fossils and sedimentary layers to see that it actually co-incides precisely with what's written in the Bible.

To be honest I think you need to broaden your horizons if all that you believe in is based off what some strange scientist wrote in the 1800s. The reason why the theory of evolution has remained a theory for 200 years is that it does not have enough impirical evidence to back it up.

I would consider this museum more 'scientific' than a 'science' textbook chapter on evolution.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: sandorski
Waste of $$.

OP, no I will never go there. It has nothing scientific to pique any interest.
You *should* go there. :p

They have some interesting theories on how to disprove carbon dating, actually.

It's also interesting to look at their analysis of fossils and sedimentary layers to see that it actually co-incides precisely with what's written in the Bible.

To be honest I think you need to broaden your horizons if all that you believe in is based off what some strange scientist wrote in the 1800s. The reason why the theory of evolution has remained a theory for 200 years is that it does not have enough impirical evidence to back it up.

I would consider this museum more 'scientific' than a 'science' textbook chapter on evolution.

sigh
 

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: sandorski
Waste of $$.

OP, no I will never go there. It has nothing scientific to pique any interest.
I would consider this museum more 'scientific' than a 'science' textbook chapter on evolution.
Of course you would, you're a fundie.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: sandorski
Waste of $$.

OP, no I will never go there. It has nothing scientific to pique any interest.
You *should* go there. :p

They have some interesting theories on how to disprove carbon dating, actually.

It's also interesting to look at their analysis of fossils and sedimentary layers to see that it actually co-incides precisely with what's written in the Bible.

To be honest I think you need to broaden your horizons if all that you believe in is based off what some strange scientist wrote in the 1800s. The reason why the theory of evolution has remained a theory for 200 years is that it does not have enough impirical evidence to back it up.

I would consider this museum more 'scientific' than a 'science' textbook chapter on evolution.

How anyone can look at he fossil record, geology, and astronomy and argue for the young earth theory with a straight face is quite simply baffling beyond all comprehension. It is an exercise in preserving a belief in the face of all logical evidence to the contrary. Being intentionally obtuse is not what I call "having an open mind".