$27 million 7-day Creationism Museum set to open in KY

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sandorski
Waste of $$.

OP, no I will never go there. It has nothing scientific to pique any interest.

You *should* go there.

They have some interesting theories on how to disprove carbon dating, actually.

It's also interesting to look at their analysis of fossils and sedimentary layers to see that it actually co-incides precisely with what's written in the Bible.

To be honest I think you need to broaden your horizons if all that you believe in is based off what some strange scientist wrote in the 1800s. The reason why the theory of evolution has remained a theory for 200 years is that it does not have enough impirical evidence to back it up.

I would consider this museum more 'scientific' than a 'science' textbook chapter on evolution.

lol

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: hellokeith

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: thestain
The World is Flat! The Emperor has his clothes on! Such are the battle crys of all the unscientific believers in Evolution.

When so many Physical laws would be violated if Evolution was true, when common sense is denied, when NO one has ever seen it take place.. yep true science..

Regardless of what many may think of origins, one has to admit that the Establishment of Evolution as the "Scientific" way to view origins is a crock. It goes against all sound reason, ALL general laws of Science and relies upon assumptions and rumors exceptions and of course beneficial mutations and all sorts of time, which is simply not possible either as the world could not possibly been in a state to support life for nearly as long as Evolutionary theory would require.. think of the moons orbit and what would happen to the tides since it is moving away from the earth, how much closer it must have been a short while ago, or the size of the Sun just a Hundred Thousand years or so again would have made current fears of global warming pale in comparison.

How can anyone who adheres to Evolution in the only real sense discussed the Macro sense, especially in light that micro is just mislabled Genetic Variation, make any claims to believe in the Scientific Method or any claims to being a "true" scientist when they are a believer in a false religion and not science?

Can anyone on this board persuade me otherwise? Didn't think so.

Keep your eyes shut, don't question So called Scientific Authority, go with those in charge who proclaim the world is flat or that the Emperor, who is walking around with no clothes, has his clothes on.. The Flat Worlders did this, and so did the Nazi's in following Hitler, who was a believer in Evolution by some counts, meanwhile Albert Einstein believed in Creation, but many now say such a belief would disqualify him from being a "true" scientist. Yet it could be argued Hitler would be welcomed by todays Evolutionist.

This Establishment of a False Religion of Macro Evolution needs to be stopped, it is dangerous to all and not the least bit Scientific.

Anyone who believes the assumptions asserted to support Evolution does true Science no favors and simply perpetuates a myth.

The Stain

Some just love to wallow in their error. So you are correct, no one here can dissuade you.

And some attack the messenger instead of providing reasonable counter-evidence..

yet, you have failed to provide evidence for your own defense....do you honestly believe the comments that you make?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: thestain
I am concerned with what appears to me to be cult-like attitudes and beliefs by different groups of people.

If Evolution is true, who cares what others might believe?

But if it is false, then it would appear to me to be more dangerous to establish Evolution as true and suppress other viewpoints on Origins.

Rant and Ramble:

The Status Quo can get in the way of progress, of advances and it just seems to me that Evolution and a real old Cosmos and Earth have really been established as though true, but there are some serious problems both in regards to what evolution can and can't do and in the environment, climate and time that would be needed for this process to advance things through adaptation, beneficial mutatation, or any other natural process etc.. relying in a way on exceptions to the general rule to explain how things work and how and when they occur.

Origins is a tough one, but to suppress truth should never be acceptable, by Creationist, by Evolutionist or any other group in regards to origins or any other topic or area of discussion.

and jsut what is your cult-like belief? such a vengeful attack on a well-established paradigm, one that has brought us Modern Medicine, and that sits at the foundation of the majority of scientific research, speaks of its own cultish following.

No one wants to supress creationist BS; they just want it out of the science classroom, and distanced form any notion of science--b/c it is not science. period. Any parent has every right to feed their kids whatever BS they want; but every kid has the right to learn actual science when they are in their science classroom, not BS fed to them by an interest group, promoting an archaic agenda above education and general progress.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: thestain
This area needs more humility.

[... meaningless garbage deleted ...]

The Stain

This area needs less posts by yourself and hellokeith. Your brand of ignorance is probably contagious.

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
To be honest I think you need to broaden your horizons if all that you believe in is based off what some strange scientist wrote in the 1800s.

LMAO

And the writings of some people huddled in tents in the Middle East over 2,000 years ago is so much better?

You can cut the irony and hypocrisy with a knife you spew it so thick.

 

[mfs378]

Originally posted by: child of wonder

Originally posted by: SickBeast
To be honest I think you need to broaden your horizons if all that you believe in is based off what some strange scientist wrote in the 1800s.

LMAO

And the writings of some people huddled in tents in the Middle East over 2,000 years ago is so much better?

You can cut the irony and hypocrisy with a knife you spew it so thick.

 

[thestain]

Back to the new Museum...

Years ago I came accross something from one of these Creationist Scientist that made some sense, but like many in the Evolutionary camp, I came away wanting greater support for it. i sure hope more support for some of the materials presented at this Museum is provided.

Truth should be established on the basis of two or more witnesses.

Do you insist upon being provided support for what you are learning about and realize that without giving ear to clear witnesses both for and against a certain theory or proposition it is pretty difficult to discern what the truth is, if it can be ascertained.

The Stain

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: thestain
Back to the new Museum...

Years ago I came accross something from one of these Creationist Scientist that made some sense, but like many in the Evolutionary camp, I came away wanting greater support for it. i sure hope more support for some of the materials presented at this Museum is provided.

Truth should be established on the basis of two or more witnesses.

Do you insist upon being provided support for what you are learning about and realize that without giving ear to clear witnesses both for and against a certain theory or proposition it is pretty difficult to discern what the truth is, if it can be ascertained.

The Stain

so, where are your witnesses for creation having occurred?

it seems like you don't read much...or you should at least consider your flawed arguments before you waste thread space when posting them

 

[jackschmittusa]

For the last time; there is no, zero, zip, nada, scientific evidence to support creationism. There is a mountain of scientific evidence, from many different disciplines to support evolution.

There has been a ton of pseudo-scientific BS bandied about by people desperate to support their religion. Since all of it has already been examined, found to be false, and rejected ; regurgitating the same BS is only done by liars and the ignorant.

This museum offers nothing new, nothing scientifically valid. It is a "grasping at straws" attempt to gain status for a non-scientific, mythological point of view. IMHO, it is a focal point, a magnet, for those who wish to remain ignorant of science.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: thestain
Back to the new Museum...

Years ago I came accross something from one of these Creationist Scientist that made some sense, but like many in the Evolutionary camp, I came away wanting greater support for it. i sure hope more support for some of the materials presented at this Museum is provided.

Truth should be established on the basis of two or more witnesses.

Do you insist upon being provided support for what you are learning about and realize that without giving ear to clear witnesses both for and against a certain theory or proposition it is pretty difficult to discern what the truth is, if it can be ascertained.

The Stain

I can't believe how incoherent you're being right now. Is this some new form of speaking in tongues that I'm not aware of?

 

[ayabe]

Since we are chatting about fairy tales, what about Jonah and the whale, since the bible is to be taken literally by these people, what's their stance on this story?

"7 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."

This, just like all of the creationist crap in the bible, is laughable at best and sad at worst.

 

[BoberFett]

This made me chuckle.

Adam is a porn star

 

[jonks]

Yes! A blogger posts a visual tour...it's about what you'd expect with some extras (Incest is best, put your sister to the test!)

http://crazytalk.typepad.com/b...6/fun_at_the_crea.html

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
Yes! A blogger posts a visual tour...it's about what you'd expect with some extras (Incest is best, put your sister to the test!)

http://crazytalk.typepad.com/b...6/fun_at_the_crea.html

haha thats awsome

 

[AmpedSilence]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
By the way, if anyone is interested in fairly strong evidence that the earth is in fact quite old, they should look at the half-lifes of various naturally occurring isotopes and their presence (or lack thereof) in nature. Isotopes with a shorter half-life (on the order of 100 million years or so) simply don't exist in nature UNLESS they are the intermediate decay product of some other isotope with a longer half-life. This suggests (although it does not conclusively prove) that the "young earth" idea is virtually impossible, since a young earth should have naturally occurring samples of the shorter lived isotopes. Their absence from nature suggests they all decayed a long time ago, which would only have been possible if they had existed for hundreds of millions of years.

Not if you assume that God did not place those on Earth OR that GOD designed those isotopes to be in that state when s/he created the Earth.