2600k back in action, motherboards do make a difference.

Markfw

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OK, so after 3 hours last night I was ready to RMA my replacement motherboard (p8P67 Delexe) for my defective Asrock extreme4(sata bug). After all that time, it was one setting keeping me from booting. I had to change the sata controller from AHCI to IDE, and bam, I am now up. Why is that the default ? I got nothing but errors, trying a fresh win7 install, or a repair XP install ???

Anyway, I was stuck at 4.4 before, and now I am up to 4.6, so motherboards DO make a difference in OC's. I might even be able to go higher !
 

Diogenes2

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I can't seem to find a good guide for converting to AHCI in XP.
YMMV with Google..

If you install Win7 with AHCI enabled, it will install the correct drivers without any additional input.

A BIOS update will not affect this on way or the other..
 

Markfw

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I can't seem to find a good guide for converting to AHCI in XP.
YMMV with Google..

If you install Win7 with AHCI enabled, it will install the correct drivers without any additional input.

A BIOS update will not affect this on way or the other..

I tried that also, and got IO errors.
 

Drsignguy

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OK, so after 3 hours last night I was ready to RMA my replacement motherboard (p8P67 Delexe) for my defective Asrock extreme4(sata bug). After all that time, it was one setting keeping me from booting. I had to change the sata controller from AHCI to IDE, and bam, I am now up. Why is that the default ? I got nothing but errors, trying a fresh win7 install, or a repair XP install ???

Anyway, I was stuck at 4.4 before, and now I am up to 4.6, so motherboards DO make a difference in OC's. I might even be able to go higher !


Good question. Seems strange that it isn't the default. Anyway, you can do the regedit trick and revert from IDE back to AHCI.

I just got completed with 2 of 3 rig upgrades and AHCI is a must as I now have 3 SSD's (1 in each). The remaining rigs will eventually have them installed as well.
 

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OK, so after 3 hours last night I was ready to RMA my replacement motherboard (p8P67 Delexe) for my defective Asrock extreme4(sata bug). After all that time, it was one setting keeping me from booting. I had to change the sata controller from AHCI to IDE, and bam, I am now up. Why is that the default ? I got nothing but errors, trying a fresh win7 install, or a repair XP install ???

Anyway, I was stuck at 4.4 before, and now I am up to 4.6, so motherboards DO make a difference in OC's. I might even be able to go higher !

+1 I feel your pain Fellow good thinking Old-Timer...
I want to know why I have to Pay for air in my tires as well!!! lol
 

WaitingForNehalem

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I can't seem to find a good guide for converting to AHCI in XP.
YMMV with Google..

If you install Win7 with AHCI enabled, it will install the correct drivers without any additional input.

A BIOS update will not affect this on way or the other..

No, if AHCI does not currently work a BIOS update could fix that.
 

Spike

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I finally just requested my replacement for the P67 bug but I'm staying with the Asrock, I really like the price/performance it offers. I was able to stay at 4.4 all the time with no real tweaking so I can't really complain about the oc it was hitting.
 

Markfw

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I finally just requested my replacement for the P67 bug but I'm staying with the Asrock, I really like the price/performance it offers. I was able to stay at 4.4 all the time with no real tweaking so I can't really complain about the oc it was hitting.

After this nightmare, I seriously considered that. 4.4 isn't bad, but now I know why others were hitting 4.6 or more. I was not that unhappy.

I am just spoiled.
 

Hogan773

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After this nightmare, I seriously considered that. 4.4 isn't bad, but now I know why others were hitting 4.6 or more. I was not that unhappy.

I am just spoiled.

Is the voltage the same on the new board or could you never get above 4.4 on the ASRock regardless of how high you set voltage?
 

Jen

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am glad you had good luck with your board. the one i got for my friend which is a p8P67 m is a nightmare that wont quit on overclocking it for her. seems when you test it at one speed it then wont downclock when idle. just stays at overclocked state. then if you change multiplier to try for either higher or lower speed it then starts to overclock then in about 3 min or so downclocks to stock speed and voltage. something seriously wrong with this board

Jen
 

Drsignguy

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I just replaced the P67A-UD3P board and it was a pain as it would reboot from the F6 bios back to the F2. Was very irritating. Run good as I never had any troubles with Gigabyte until that board. And even though, it really wasnt all that bad. Now that I exchanged the board, I upgraded to the Asrock Extreem6 and put my 2600K in it and so far so good. I do however have a P67A-UD3 B3 with a Brand spankin new 2600K sittin here ready to go to work. I hope It doesn't have the same problem its B2 version had......
 

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I recall that I've always run AHCI on my SB system - even before I set up an SSD. Any possibility that the HD is obsolescent or defective? It doesn't make sense.
 

Dadofamunky

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am glad you had good luck with your board. the one i got for my friend which is a p8P67 m is a nightmare that wont quit on overclocking it for her. seems when you test it at one speed it then wont downclock when idle. just stays at overclocked state. then if you change multiplier to try for either higher or lower speed it then starts to overclock then in about 3 min or so downclocks to stock speed and voltage. something seriously wrong with this board

Jen

C1E and EIST need to be On for downclock to work. Check those.
 

Markfw

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Is the voltage the same on the new board or could you never get above 4.4 on the ASRock regardless of how high you set voltage?

Yes, running 1.38 on both boards. The asrock would not even try to start windows at 4.5. I have not tried higher than 4.6 yet, and already had one "burp" (F@H)at 4.6, but I am going to wait a few days and see. Sometimes that "burp" is normal for F@H. If it is solid for a week, I will try for 4.7, but I am also at my max temp that I like(69), so its looking like 4.6 is it.

As for the hard drives, well, its booting off a 1.5 tb disk, but also has a 500 gig and a 300 gig IDE. If you are saying that all hards drives on this system, to run AHCI, just be bought in the last year, then that's my problem, but that seems like a shitty compromise to make.
 
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Axon

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I just replaced the P67A-UD3P board and it was a pain as it would reboot from the F6 bios back to the F2. Was very irritating. Run good as I never had any troubles with Gigabyte until that board. And even though, it really wasnt all that bad. Now that I exchanged the board, I upgraded to the Asrock Extreem6 and put my 2600K in it and so far so good. I do however have a P67A-UD3 B3 with a Brand spankin new 2600K sittin here ready to go to work. I hope It doesn't have the same problem its B2 version had......

My UD4-B3 no longer has that godawful reboot loop. However, the temps on my 2600k are out of control (they were on the B2 version as well) so I'm a little eh on what to do. I'm running temps up to like, 80c.

EDIT: I just did a sensor test on Realtemp and it's showing sensor movement between 24-38. What does that mean exactly?
 
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Hogan773

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Yes, running 1.38 on both boards. The asrock would not even try to start windows at 4.5. I have not tried higher than 4.6 yet, and already had one "burp" (F@H)at 4.6, but I am going to wait a few days and see. Sometimes that "burp" is normal for F@H. If it is solid for a week, I will try for 4.7, but I am also at my max temp that I like(69), so its looking like 4.6 is it.

As for the hard drives, well, its booting off a 1.5 tb disk, but also has a 500 gig and a 300 gig IDE. If you are saying that all hards drives on this system, to run AHCI, just be bought in the last year, then that's my problem, but that seems like a shitty compromise to make.

I am running 2 HDDs on AHCI, and 1 was purchased 3 yrs ago (Caviar Black)

Before I installed Win7 I set the BIOS from IDE to AHCI, and then loaded Windows, and it just seems to work. I dont have an SSD.
 

bryanW1995

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that's interesting, I had the failure to boot problem as well with ahci enabled. I turned it off and now the computer boots and works great. Still working my OC back up.
 
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Wait, your replacement motherboard was acting bogus, then you got a different one or just changed things back to IDE... what would cause AHCI mode to become unstable? or act up? :hmm:
 

Bman123

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Motherboards make a difference, I had 2 p35-ds3l boards before. One would let me hit 4ghz the other 4.4 with the same e8400 cpu
 

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I have a P67A -UD4 B3 board and I am running 4.5ghz @ 1.32v and the temps are about 60-63c on IBT. Running really good for me.
 

Arkaign

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Might want to run HDTune on all those drives (or Sandra, if you prefer), AFAIK IDE mode vs. AHCI significantly affects drive performance (no NCQ, for example).