26001 pound truck vs guy on a bicyle

[xanis]

Originally posted by: JRich
Every time I've been hit by a car while riding my bike I've been in the street/bikelane/crosswalk because those drivers weren't paying attention. So guess where I ride now? On the fucking sidewalk because I'll take my chances with a ticket rather than a vehicle that has a couple thousand pounds on me.

Oh, and fuck elitist cyclists... ya! MOVE!

This just might be the calmest, most rational post in the entire thread.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: JRich
Every time I've been hit by a car while riding my bike I've been in the street/bikelane/crosswalk because those drivers weren't paying attention. So guess where I ride now? On the fucking sidewalk because I'll take my chances with a ticket rather than a vehicle that has a couple thousand pounds on me.

Oh, and fuck elitist cyclists... ya! MOVE!

This just might be the calmest, most rational post in the entire thread.

I won't ride on the sidewalk for reasons previously posted. Maybe if I was on a mountain bike puttering to the store, I'd ride on the sidewalks if it was a busy street. But when I am on my road bike, riding for distance and speed, I will remain in control of my lane of traffic.

Further, riding on a sidewalk is equally dangerous, if not more dangerous, to riding in the middle of a lane of traffic.

 

[skyking]

Safeway, for your style if riding yes. I'm old and out of shape and when I say "grind a hill" think of a waiter asking if you want pepper on your salad😛
On some stretches of sidewalk it is plenty smooth and I have a mirror/pay attention to all traffic. I'm safer over there.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Xanis

Originally posted by: JRich
Every time I've been hit by a car while riding my bike I've been in the street/bikelane/crosswalk because those drivers weren't paying attention. So guess where I ride now? On the fucking sidewalk because I'll take my chances with a ticket rather than a vehicle that has a couple thousand pounds on me.

Oh, and fuck elitist cyclists... ya! MOVE!

This just might be the calmest, most rational post in the entire thread.

I won't ride on the sidewalk for reasons previously posted. Maybe if I was on a mountain bike puttering to the store, I'd ride on the sidewalks if it was a busy street. But when I am on my road bike, riding for distance and speed, I will remain in control of my lane of traffic.

Further, riding on a sidewalk is equally dangerous, if not more dangerous, to riding in the middle of a lane of traffic.

EDIT: nm not getting involved

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Its illegal for a bicycle to ride on the fucking sidewalk? Get the FUCK OUT!?!?

And this is where you begin your journey of ownage. Enjoy.

 

[z1ggy]

Originally posted by: Safeway
Final word, I will continue riding my bicycle on the road, in the middle of the lane. I will continue to carry my pistol in my jersey pocket to protect myself from thieves, muggers, and disgruntled drivers. I will continue to ride by bicycle both defensively and offensively, depending on the situation. I will continue to primarily ride my bicycle on closed courses and lightly traveled routes, but i will not be discouraged from riding on major thoroughfares, unless it is an interstate or similar roadway.

I will also continue to defend cycling until the lesser-informed are educated.

It just boils down to you being an over educated doughebag of a bike rider. Yeah congrats on knowing the law and what you can legally do. Also congrats to when some nut job decides to run you over and your 6 feet deep.

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
When did it become acceptable to call someone a lovely human here? 😕

It isn't acceptable. He is obviously an uneducated dunce.

And now addressing what was said, in bold above.

But saying this:

"You are officially a fucking worthless human being"

"you fucking retard asshole mother fucker"

"You are the fucking moron"

"you'd rather take a dick your ass"

is? 😕

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMageHow does a biker prefer to get passed when there is only one lane, and the other lane is oncoming traffic? If you are going 10-15, and the speed limit is 35-40, what are we supposed to do? Slow everyone down and keep behind you? I usually just wait for an opening of oncoming traffic and juice it around them, but that seems dangerous to me.

That's exactly what you should do, yes: slow down to the speed of the ________ (dump truck, cyclist, farm tractor, city bus, or other slower road user) until there's a safe opportunity to pass, then do so in the normal legal fashion.

The guys who are posturing with the big "I don't care what the law says, bikes should stay out of the way and learn their place" attitudes remind me of racial segregation and discrimination in the South in the recent past. How dare those ni****s drink from the same water fountain as my little white child?! Do they really think they're equal to us whites? I don't give a damn what the law says... we'll see how uppity they are after we burn a cross in their yard. Ugly and pathetic.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: ViviTheMageHow does a biker prefer to get passed when there is only one lane, and the other lane is oncoming traffic? If you are going 10-15, and the speed limit is 35-40, what are we supposed to do? Slow everyone down and keep behind you? I usually just wait for an opening of oncoming traffic and juice it around them, but that seems dangerous to me.

That's exactly what you should do, yes: slow down to the speed of the ________ (dump truck, cyclist, farm tractor, city bus, or other slower road user) until there's a safe opportunity to pass, then do so in the normal legal fashion.

The guys who are posturing with the big "I don't care what the law says, bikes should stay out of the way and learn their place" attitudes remind me of racial segregation and discrimination in the South in the recent past. How dare those ni****s drink from the same water fountain as my little white child?! Do they really think they're equal to us whites? I don't give a damn what the law says... we'll see how uppity they are after we burn a cross in their yard. Ugly and pathetic.

Nice parallel.

 

[krylon]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: ViviTheMageHow does a biker prefer to get passed when there is only one lane, and the other lane is oncoming traffic? If you are going 10-15, and the speed limit is 35-40, what are we supposed to do? Slow everyone down and keep behind you? I usually just wait for an opening of oncoming traffic and juice it around them, but that seems dangerous to me.

That's exactly what you should do, yes: slow down to the speed of the ________ (dump truck, cyclist, farm tractor, city bus, or other slower road user) until there's a safe opportunity to pass, then do so in the normal legal fashion.

The guys who are posturing with the big "I don't care what the law says, bikes should stay out of the way and learn their place" attitudes remind me of racial segregation and discrimination in the South in the recent past. How dare those ni****s drink from the same water fountain as my little white child?! Do they really think they're equal to us whites? I don't give a damn what the law says... we'll see how uppity they are after we burn a cross in their yard. Ugly and pathetic.

Driving at 15mph on a bike in a 30mph posted speed zone has nothing to do with white or black kids drinking from a water fountain. What the hell are you smoking?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: ViviTheMageHow does a biker prefer to get passed when there is only one lane, and the other lane is oncoming traffic? If you are going 10-15, and the speed limit is 35-40, what are we supposed to do? Slow everyone down and keep behind you? I usually just wait for an opening of oncoming traffic and juice it around them, but that seems dangerous to me.

That's exactly what you should do, yes: slow down to the speed of the ________ (dump truck, cyclist, farm tractor, city bus, or other slower road user) until there's a safe opportunity to pass, then do so in the normal legal fashion.

The guys who are posturing with the big "I don't care what the law says, bikes should stay out of the way and learn their place" attitudes remind me of racial segregation and discrimination in the South in the recent past. How dare those ni****s drink from the same water fountain as my little white child?! Do they really think they're equal to us whites? I don't give a damn what the law says... we'll see how uppity they are after we burn a cross in their yard. Ugly and pathetic.

Nice parallel.

Agreed.

/Thread.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: krylon

Driving at 15mph on a bike in a 30mph posted speed zone has nothing to do with white or black kids drinking from a water fountain. What the hell are you smoking?

Driving 15mph in a car in a 30mph zone is legal. Riding 15mph on a bike is legal.

What's the problem?

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Exterous

Originally posted by: Safeway


It isn't acceptable. He is obviously an uneducated dunce.

And now addressing what was said, in bold above.

But saying this:

"You are officially a fucking worthless human being"

"you fucking retard asshole mother fucker"

"You are the fucking moron"

"you'd rather take a dick your ass"

is? 😕

I'd say ban both retarded bigots.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Exterous

Originally posted by: Safeway


It isn't acceptable. He is obviously an uneducated dunce.

And now addressing what was said, in bold above.

But saying this:

"You are officially a fucking worthless human being"

"you fucking retard asshole mother fucker"

"You are the fucking moron"

"you'd rather take a dick your ass"

is? 😕

I'd say ban both retarded bigots.

I raged after being told that I should die, be killed, get run over on purpose about 27 times. I shouldn't have used that language, and I apologize.

 

[krylon]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: krylon

Driving at 15mph on a bike in a 30mph posted speed zone has nothing to do with white or black kids drinking from a water fountain. What the hell are you smoking?

Driving 15mph in a car in a 30mph zone is legal. Riding 15mph on a bike is legal.

What's the problem?

I didn't say anything about it being legal or not. You are the problem.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: krylon

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: ViviTheMageHow does a biker prefer to get passed when there is only one lane, and the other lane is oncoming traffic? If you are going 10-15, and the speed limit is 35-40, what are we supposed to do? Slow everyone down and keep behind you? I usually just wait for an opening of oncoming traffic and juice it around them, but that seems dangerous to me.

That's exactly what you should do, yes: slow down to the speed of the ________ (dump truck, cyclist, farm tractor, city bus, or other slower road user) until there's a safe opportunity to pass, then do so in the normal legal fashion.

The guys who are posturing with the big "I don't care what the law says, bikes should stay out of the way and learn their place" attitudes remind me of racial segregation and discrimination in the South in the recent past. How dare those ni****s drink from the same water fountain as my little white child?! Do they really think they're equal to us whites? I don't give a damn what the law says... we'll see how uppity they are after we burn a cross in their yard. Ugly and pathetic.

Driving at 15mph on a bike in a 30mph posted speed zone has nothing to do with white or black kids drinking from a water fountain. What the hell are you smoking?

That is quite legal, regardless of vehicle type, so I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be. Mine is that we have some posters here who can't see past the vehicle to the human being, just like there are some people who can't see past skin color or ethnic background to the human being.

You are the problem.

Looks like you need to brush up on your knowledge of traffic law. The problem is the person who can't handle passing a slower road user safely. If you signed your driver's license, you took on that responsibility. Comes with the territory, bro.

This being an Internet forum, I guess it should be expected that we have young males whose vehicles represent their manhood, and resent anything that impedes them from driving at 100%+ of the speed limit, to the point where some of them are willing to wish death on another human being for exercising their rights. Pretty sad. But I remember a great bumper sticker... it said Ignore your rights, and they'll just go away.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Almost no roads are 14' wide. 12' is the standard lane width, and you'll see them a touch smaller on some back roads.

Excellent observation, which is why I have stated time and time again that I am never legally obligated to ride to the far left.

People that aren't attorneys have a hard time understanding law. They assume that the primary statement would apply most often, and the exceptions are rarely applied. That is simply not the case. The main rule (stay to the right) is merely a default in the rare occasion that an exception does not apply.

12' is the standard with with construction narrowing down to a possible 10' or even 9' in really bad areas.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that the douchebaggery is STRONG in this thread.

OP, you're whining, but I can understand. Some bikers are douches, but I believe you need more control when you drive with them as they do have rights and the sidewalk isn't a place they should EVER be forced on. If there's a bike lane, so be it, but otherwise don't force them.

As for anyone who mentions well 3000 lbs car or however heavy your truck is vs 160 lb man + bike, who wins? Come on. It's not about that. This is like telling cars that you have to be the road bitch for the semi because it can kill you and motorcyclists that they have to be bitches because cars will kill them. NO. We tell the person more at danger to watch out, but we remind those who are lethal that they need to respect rights so that they do not cause harm. I think this is just a dumb argument. Yes, when it comes to watching out the bicyclist should watch out more because if an accident happens, he's more at risk to injury. This doesn't mean anyone should give up cycling rights that are in place already.

Safeway, you're right to ride the way you do, but to out-asshole people is a trait that will be frowned upon. Pulling a gun to make your point? Seriously, if someone hits you, take down their plate numbers and shout at them for 30 secs and go report him or something. There's no need to hold up traffic for 5 minutes and pull your gun ok?

I used to be a biker but honestly my neighborhood has bike lanes. However when I see people on bikes I do try to let them go even if they're in the lane. I've lived in Berkeley and I've done my fair share of volunteer work in SF where bikers are batshit crazy. Just respect each other and no one gets in trouble. I think the biker attitude in SF is too elitist and they're almost a terrible mob like unions can be. However, I think the result is that bikers in SF have their rights respected in a decent manner where it doesn't cause any trouble if everyone just follows the rules. It's kinda a nasty way to accomplish what they deserve but I suppose it got the job done. Yeah Critical Mass went too far, but I'm glad there's a lot more bike respect attitude out there now.

And all the people wishing each other to die? Seriously, go back to daycare or something.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: krylon

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: krylon

Driving at 15mph on a bike in a 30mph posted speed zone has nothing to do with white or black kids drinking from a water fountain. What the hell are you smoking?

Driving 15mph in a car in a 30mph zone is legal. Riding 15mph on a bike is legal.

What's the problem?

I didn't say anything about it being legal or not. You are the problem.

I don't understand. I ride my bike because I am allowed to. I have equal rights to road usage. Get off your elitist I-dont-bike high horse and think about the people that DO bike. Think about what makes their lives easier.

This thread is all about me me me. For people in large vehicles, it is easy to make it me me me on the road. For cyclists, it is impossible to make it me me me on the road.

So when cyclist try to make it you you you me, drivers still get pissed off and say, "Get off the road." That is all we want! To be on the road.

 

[krylon]

This thread delivers :laugh: :beer:

 

[MiniDoom]

all these problems could be solved if we just build bike lanes. We are a country of oil dependent obese people, we could solve a lot of problems if people were encouraged to bike more often.

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: rdubbz420
all these problems could be solved if we just build bike lanes. We are a country of oil dependent obese people, we could solve a lot of problems if people were encouraged to bike more often.

I agree. I have no problems with giving up a bit of extra tax money to build some bike lanes. It would be mutually beneficial to all of the bikers and drivers on the roads.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: krylon

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: krylon

Driving at 15mph on a bike in a 30mph posted speed zone has nothing to do with white or black kids drinking from a water fountain. What the hell are you smoking?

Driving 15mph in a car in a 30mph zone is legal. Riding 15mph on a bike is legal.

What's the problem?

I didn't say anything about it being legal or not. You are the problem.

I don't understand. I ride my bike because I am allowed to. I have equal rights to road usage. Get off your elitist I-dont-bike high horse and think about the people that DO bike. Think about what makes their lives easier.

This thread is all about me me me. For people in large vehicles, it is easy to make it me me me on the road. For cyclists, it is impossible to make it me me me on the road.

So when cyclist try to make it you you you me, drivers still get pissed off and say, "Get off the road." That is all we want! To be on the road.

Yeah, you clearly can be talking about elitists. :roll:

 

[zinfamous]

where is Ricereric when we need him? ...or whatever his name is? 🙁

 

[MrDudeMan]

It's just sad that so many people won't take 5 seconds out of their day to wait for a safe time to pass a biker. You could kill someones dad/mom/husband/wife/son/daughter and ruin a lot of peoples lives because your selfishness was more important to you than a human life. That's really what this comes down to.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
where is Ricereric when we need him? ...or whatever his name is? 🙁

rcxeric? Banned, according to the "debated on posting this" thread by Mosh.