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wasssup

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350z and s2000 are great cars, but i'd never pay $20k+ for a used car...

<-- will end up throwing $24k out the window for a new '05 WRX, i'll probably wait till the warranty is up till I hit Stage 2...
 

DaveCSparty

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Originally posted by: wasssup
350z and s2000 are great cars, but i'd never pay $20k+ for a used car...

<-- will end up throwing $24k out the window for a new '05 WRX, i'll probably wait till the warranty is up till I hit Stage 2...

My college roommate has a WRX and it's a pretty sweet car. A quick little ah heck.

Build quality just isn't there though, but it's a fun car if you're in high school/college
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl


Yup, 3rd get RX-7s live in a delicate balance. Briliant engine design, and a blast to drive they are, however, rolling grenades.

There is nothing brilliant about the engine design. It's efficiency is very low, and so is the reliability. That light, aerodynamic car gets about the same gas mileage as a heavy, gas guzzling SUV with the aerodynamics of a brick.

My friend's 2nd gen got about 16 mpg, and his friend's 3rd gen got about the same.

You could say it's "neat" or "a novelty", but definitely not "brilliant".

You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl


Yup, 3rd get RX-7s live in a delicate balance. Briliant engine design, and a blast to drive they are, however, rolling grenades.

There is nothing brilliant about the engine design. It's efficiency is very low, and so is the reliability. That light, aerodynamic car gets about the same gas mileage as a heavy, gas guzzling SUV with the aerodynamics of a brick.

My friend's 2nd gen got about 16 mpg, and his friend's 3rd gen got about the same.

You could say it's "neat" or "a novelty", but definitely not "brilliant".

You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.

The fact that it displaces 1.3L has nothing to do with anything, especially considering it's actually spinning three times as fast as the tach shows. You can consider it a 3.9L engine that less reliabile than a piston engine, doesn't last even half as long, burns oil, and gets about half the gas mileage that a Corvette does.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: TallBill
i'd spend 10 grand on a crown victoria.. and save the other 15 for something usefull

current car is worth 14K-15K, will trade/sell it off, I probably have an insurance settlement coming my way, not counting that I have enough cash right now to buy it outright. I max employer contribution on my 401K so retirement is being worked on.

I save ~1.5K a month right now so if I get a $400-$500 car payment instead of a $300, I am not hurting for money. Saving money is not an all or nothing affair, there is enough to go around.
 

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you could look at an mkiv supra too. very reliable. crankwalk seems to be the biggest problem and it's nothing compared to that of a dsm...
 

ElFenix

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get a miata for $10k and save the rest. the miata is more fun than anything you've listed anyway.

and the RSX is not a sports car.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
get a miata for $10k and save the rest. the miata is more fun than anything you've listed anyway.

and the RSX is not a sports car.

Miata is ok, but what bothers me is it's slow as f*ck. I don't plan on racing everyone, but something is wrong when I go out of my way to get a sports car that is burned by kids driving mommy's V6 camry.

I think for 10K I'd rather get an MR2 turbo, but they seem to be hard to find.

 

vi edit

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Just buy a motorcycle for speed when you want it and to pick up women. Keep the Accord for functionality and road trips.

:)
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: ElFenix
get a miata for $10k and save the rest. the miata is more fun than anything you've listed anyway.

and the RSX is not a sports car.

Miata is ok, but what bothers me is it's slow as f*ck. I don't plan on racing everyone, but something is wrong when I go out of my way to get a sports car that is burned by kids driving mommy's V6 camry.

I think for 10K I'd rather get an MR2 turbo, but they seem to be hard to find.

Used Mazdaspeed? Either that or just buy one and add a supercharger or turbo like I did. I got my supercharger used for $1700. It came with a boost upgrade crank pulley which brings it up to around 10psi. I'd estimate that to be around 215hp at the crank or around 185 at the wheels.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Just buy a motorcycle for speed when you want it and to pick up women. Keep the Accord for functionality and road trips.

:)

I looked into a sports bike briefly, but they are still 5K+ easy for a decent one. Plus I have been hit 4 times in the past 2 years so I don't trust just luck to get me through accidents.

My immediate family and extended family is full of sedans. I can always bum one from my dad if needed, I'll let him drive my car in exchange, I don't think he'll mind. ;)

 

funboy6942

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I throw Vette into this again. yes maybe its not as reliable as the other ones but food for thought. Its a Chevy. Parts and repair for it is going to be much less then anything else ESPECIALLY if your talking Nissan or Infinity. The service charges and parts are through the roof. Plus if your good with your hands again its a chevy. Parts are cheap, hop ups are endless, and the whole front end lifts up leaving you with all kinds of room to work on it saving you a ton in the long run. Engine craps out buy another one NEW for around $500 (350 SB thier a dime a dozen).

Vettes can be had for much less then $25K. In fact I would reccomend finding one that needs an engine. $10-$15k for a decent body and under $2k for engine and tranny installed. Then hop the sob up with the money you saved buying american muscle (paint job, custom seats, why not a super charger :D). It will be an easy rice burner and the girls love corvettes.


And another thing is a Corfette will not depreciate as much as the other cars mentioned. If you get one treat her right and take care of it can actually keeps it value and becomes an investment. Any thing else you will pay $25k now for and in three years is worth less then $5k. I would deal with the supposedly less reliable and fix it myself then pay out the butt for everything and it becomes worthless later in the years.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: funboy42
I throw Vette into this again. yes maybe its not as reliable as the other ones but food for thought. Its a Chevy. Parts and repair for it is going to be much less then anything else ESPECIALLY if your talking Nissan or Infinity. The service charges and parts are through the roof. Plus if your good with your hands again its a chevy. Parts are cheap, hop ups are endless, and the whole front end lifts up leaving you with all kinds of room to work on it saving you a ton in the long run. Engine craps out buy another one NEW for around $500 (350 SB thier a dime a dozen).

Vettes can be had for much less then $25K. In fact I would reccomend finding one that needs an engine. $10-$15k for a decent body and under $2k for engine and tranny installed. Then hop the sob up with the money you saved buying american muscle (paint job, custom seats, why not a super charger :D). It will be an easy rice burner and the girls love corvettes.

I worked 50 or more hours a week for the past month, I can't afford downtime and I don't have time for a psuedo project car. It needs to run out of the box.
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: funboy42
I throw Vette into this again. yes maybe its not as reliable as the other ones but food for thought. Its a Chevy. Parts and repair for it is going to be much less then anything else ESPECIALLY if your talking Nissan or Infinity. The service charges and parts are through the roof. Plus if your good with your hands again its a chevy. Parts are cheap, hop ups are endless, and the whole front end lifts up leaving you with all kinds of room to work on it saving you a ton in the long run. Engine craps out buy another one NEW for around $500 (350 SB thier a dime a dozen).

Vettes can be had for much less then $25K. In fact I would reccomend finding one that needs an engine. $10-$15k for a decent body and under $2k for engine and tranny installed. Then hop the sob up with the money you saved buying american muscle (paint job, custom seats, why not a super charger :D). It will be an easy rice burner and the girls love corvettes.

I worked 50 or more hours a week for the past month, I can't afford downtime and I don't have time for a psuedo project car. It needs to run out of the box.

Auto trader has alot of Corvettes in the Chicago area year 2000 and below for under $26K that needs nothing at all.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
You show me another 1.3 liter engine that can produce as much power as the 13b is capable of and I'll agree with you.
True, but that 1.3 litre engine doesn't weigh significantly less than piston engines twice its displacement and the amount of fuel it burns to get the power it makes is higher than for piston engines.

Now, don't get me wrong, the rotary is a cool little engine, but it's rather terribly inefficient in by the meaningful measurement of power produced per unit of fuel consumed.

ZV
 

OS

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: ElFenix
get a miata for $10k and save the rest. the miata is more fun than anything you've listed anyway.

and the RSX is not a sports car.

Miata is ok, but what bothers me is it's slow as f*ck. I don't plan on racing everyone, but something is wrong when I go out of my way to get a sports car that is burned by kids driving mommy's V6 camry.

I think for 10K I'd rather get an MR2 turbo, but they seem to be hard to find.

Used Mazdaspeed? Either that or just buy one and add a supercharger or turbo like I did. I got my supercharger used for $1700. It came with a boost upgrade crank pulley which brings it up to around 10psi. I'd estimate that to be around 215hp at the crank or around 185 at the wheels.

I just looked and they are a bit on the expensive side, approaching 20K. I think in such a case, might as well get an 06 miata, the power is similar.



 

Salvador

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You're close to a used '01 Corvette Z06 for $25K. Not Japanese, but it's a lot quicker and probably cheaper on insurance (believe it or not).
 

OS

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Auto trader has alot of Corvettes in the Chicago area year 2000 and below for under $26K that needs nothing at all.

ok i looked again and there are a handful of C5s, ~50K miles, around 23K.

I don't know much about vettes, last time I glanced at one, on thing I remember was the interior was poorly built. Coworkers dad owns one, will ask him how it's holding up.
 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: ElFenix
get a miata for $10k and save the rest. the miata is more fun than anything you've listed anyway.

and the RSX is not a sports car.

Miata is ok, but what bothers me is it's slow as f*ck. I don't plan on racing everyone, but something is wrong when I go out of my way to get a sports car that is burned by kids driving mommy's V6 camry.

I think for 10K I'd rather get an MR2 turbo, but they seem to be hard to find.

Used Mazdaspeed? Either that or just buy one and add a supercharger or turbo like I did. I got my supercharger used for $1700. It came with a boost upgrade crank pulley which brings it up to around 10psi. I'd estimate that to be around 215hp at the crank or around 185 at the wheels.

I just looked and they are a bit on the expensive side, approaching 20K. I think in such a case, might as well get an 06 miata, the power is similar.
Well you could always get a 2001 for half that. Then you have your choice of one of these:
M45 Supercharger
MP62 Supercharger
Ubercharger
Turbocharger


As long as you don't go much above 6psi you don't have to "upgrade" anything. You can leave the engine and exhaust otherwise stock. The nice thing about the Jackson Racing is you don't even have to replace the clutch.
 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: andylawcc
Originally posted by: z0mb13
used s2k coupe?

for teh Win!

He says he doesn't like Miatas so maybe he won't like an S2000 either since you have to rev the snot out of them.

I think he's looking for a Japanese Corvette.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: ElFenix
get a miata for $10k and save the rest. the miata is more fun than anything you've listed anyway.

and the RSX is not a sports car.

Miata is ok, but what bothers me is it's slow as f*ck. I don't plan on racing everyone, but something is wrong when I go out of my way to get a sports car that is burned by kids driving mommy's V6 camry.

I think for 10K I'd rather get an MR2 turbo, but they seem to be hard to find.

Used Mazdaspeed? Either that or just buy one and add a supercharger or turbo like I did. I got my supercharger used for $1700. It came with a boost upgrade crank pulley which brings it up to around 10psi. I'd estimate that to be around 215hp at the crank or around 185 at the wheels.

I just looked and they are a bit on the expensive side, approaching 20K. I think in such a case, might as well get an 06 miata, the power is similar.
Well you could always get a 2001 for half that. Then you have your choice of one of these:
M45 Supercharger
MP62 Supercharger
Ubercharger
Turbocharger


As long as you don't go much above 6psi you don't have to "upgrade" anything. You can leave the engine and exhaust otherwise stock. The nice thing about the Jackson Racing is you don't even have to replace the clutch.

I'd prefer not to modify if I don't have to. Another thing nice about the 06 is it's less girly looking than previous generations. The mazdaspeed looks ok too, but then it's a wash vs 06.