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trenchfoot

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Repub Legislative Agenda for the nest two years: Same as the last six years: Hate on Obama.

Well, at least the immigration reform problem will be solved by the Repubs. Oh yeah, and the borders will be sealed. And all of the illegal immigrants will be deported. And unions will be outlawed. And the budget will be balanced. And Syria, Iran and any other nation in the middle east that McCain don't like will be invaded and turned into a money making machine for the likes of Halliburton, etc....again. And Obamacare will be repealed. And Obama will finally be successfully impeached. And millions upon millions of new jobs will be created overnight and the economy will flourish under the hallowed principles of Trickle Down Economics.

Yep, all these things that the Repubs have been fighting for will finally all come true.

Tell me it ain't so.......lol
 

Oldgamer

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So does this mean that everything is now the Republicans fault again?

LOL does this mean now that Republicans have complete control of borh house and senate that the Republicans are actually going to do their jobs and start legislating? And if they do more of the same obstructionism crap does this mean some of you will put the blame where it belongs now? You can't blame Democrats now because they are no longer in control or in the majority. Hey Walker is going to run for President now! You think he or other Republicans can take the 2016 WH?

I suspect Obamacare is going to stay and folks who want it gone so bad are going to be dissapointed that the people they elected yesterday didn't stick to their campaign promises.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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Liberal tears. All this fear. Do they have CBD?

Ummmm, If you're a conservative, I think you just gave yourself and your party a slap in the face by confirming the existence of Conservative Brain Defect to make your point. ;)

If not, my apologies.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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LOL does this mean now that Republicans have complete control of borh house and senate that the Republicans are actually going to do their jobs and start legislating? And if they do more of the same obstructionism crap does this mean some of you will put the blame where it belongs now? You can't blame Democrats now because they are no longer in control or in the majority. Hey Walker is going to run for President now! You think he or other Republicans can take the 2016 WH?

I suspect Obamacare is going to stay and folks who want it gone so bad are going to be dissapointed that the people they elected yesterday didn't stick to their campaign promises.

If past performance and style of legislating is any kind of indicator, it's not so much what we see up front and in the news that's going to be damaging to the middle class and the poor. It's the riders and other disingenuous sleight of hand tactics that the Repubs will use to try to sneak through legislation that will do the real damage to the working stiff but make the very rich so much richer.
 
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dank69

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not since the times of Rockefeller have the top 1% gotten as rich as during this presidency

Sorry guys but until we get more than D or R as an option they are both the same people now when it comes to the rich and corporations.

The way to fix that is to raise taxes on the rich. Dems tried to do that but GOP blocked it. But keep on thinking the two parties are the same.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Ummmm, If you're a conservative, I think you just gave yourself and your party a slap in the face by confirming the existence of Conservative Brain Defect to make your point. ;)

If not, my apologies.

Some Liberals are among the most conservative people I know :p

Well this should be interesting in any event. It's possible, maybe, sorta, that the Republicans will actually be forced to get their act together as they have two years to demonstrate that with a majority in both houses they can bring reasonable legislation to a vote. I'm not holding my breath, but if the RNC wants the White House in 2016 they are going to have to make some changes. We'll see.
 

dank69

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Well so much for the Republican party being dead.
Rather surprised they took the senate. Also surprised at the governor races. Illinois has a Republican gov?????
If you are surprised by these results you haven't been paying attention.
 

Texashiker

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The way to fix that is to raise taxes on the rich. Dems tried to do that but GOP blocked it. But keep on thinking the two parties are the same.

The democrats should have passed it when they had control of both branches of congress and the white house.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_United_States_Congress

Senate Majority: Democratic Party
House Majority: Democratic Party

Two years is not enough time to pass a law when you have a majority?
 

dank69

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Texashiker

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You don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. I'm not surprised you don't understand this.

Then do not complain about not raising taxes. You had your chance, you passed it up, don't cry about it.

We are not talking about taxes across the board. Just taxes on people and companies who can afford it.

Apple still has over $100 billion in the bank just sitting there.

Companies like GE had a zero percent tax rate for something like 5 years.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The way to fix that is to raise taxes on the rich. Dems tried to do that but GOP blocked it. But keep on thinking the two parties are the same.

That's conservative thinking. All taxation means is that the people in control will squeeze the bottom harder to make up for it. You aren't going to really hurt people who can do that, and there isn't enough money anyway to make your job much better. It's great revenge, but that's all it's going to do.

Instead change the rules of taxation where companies who increase their investment in workers in terms of wages and job growth and stability get to keep more money. Those who don't have their corporation screwed and investors will make sure that if that that happens someone is going to be immensely screwed too. Oh, as far as taxation goes, if those parachutes inflate due to being ditched I'd say really make it hurt.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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You don't raise taxes in the middle of a recession. I'm not surprised you don't understand this.

Not only that but once the Dems lost the super majority (about 3 months into Obama's Presidency), then anything they tried to do got filibustered.

I'm torn between wanting to see something, anything happen in this nation. And wanting democrats to filibuster every fucking thing they can. We might actually stave off another Republican caused recession if they do.
 

dank69

Lifer
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That's conservative thinking. All taxation means is that the people in control will squeeze the bottom harder to make up for it. You aren't going to really hurt people who can do that, and there isn't enough money anyway to make your job much better. It's great revenge, but that's all it's going to do.

Instead change the rules of taxation where companies who increase their investment in workers in terms of wages and job growth and stability get to keep more money. Those who don't have their corporation screwed and investors will make sure that if that that happens someone is going to be immensely screwed too. Oh, as far as taxation goes, if those parachutes inflate due to being ditched I'd say really make it hurt.
The majority of corporations are already squeezing every drop from everyone they can.
 

Texashiker

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We might actually stave off another Republican caused recession if they do.

obama has had 6 years to end free trade and bring our jobs back from china.

Guess what, he signed more free trade agreements.

Who do think is out there drilling for oil, mining coal, building the drilling rigs? Democrats or republicans?

What has obama done to help put people to work, not much.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Then do not complain about not raising taxes. You had your chance, you passed it up, don't cry about it.

We are not talking about taxes across the board. Just taxes on people and companies who can afford it.

Apple still has over $100 billion in the bank just sitting there.

Companies like GE had a zero percent tax rate for something like 5 years.
I can't complain because Dems did what is right for the country? Okay, makes sense.
 

dank69

Lifer
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obama has had 6 years to end free trade and bring our jobs back from china.

Guess what, he signed more free trade agreements.

Who do think is out there drilling for oil, mining coal, building the drilling rigs? Democrats or republicans?

What has obama done to help put people to work, not much.
Right, unemployment hasn't gone from 10% to under 6% in the last 6 years.
 

brandonb

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Ummmm, If you're a conservative, I think you just gave yourself and your party a slap in the face by confirming the existence of Conservative Brain Defect to make your point. ;)

If not, my apologies.

I didn't vote for a single R or D in this election. I'm getting more wise as I age, and realize both lead us to our doom. ;)
 
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The way to fix that is to raise taxes on the rich. Dems tried to do that but GOP blocked it. But keep on thinking the two parties are the same.
Democrats successfully eliminated the Bush tax cuts for the rich by letting them expire. So everything is "fixed" now....unless of course you think we should go back to pre-Kennedy tax rates.
 

nageov3t

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I'm curious to see how Joni Ernst does... she's got a resume straight out of a bad political TV drama (farmgirl goes to war, comes back and wins a Senate seat). I could see her making a good window dressing VP candidate if she's not Palin/Bachmann-levle crazy.
 
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Texashiker

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I can't complain because Dems did what is right for the country? Okay, makes sense.

Somehow not taxing companies who have billions in the bank was good for the nation?

Bull crap.

Take apple for example. They have a cool 100 billion in the bank. Take 20% of that, and provide free college education for every US citizen.

I bet $20 billion could have paid for a lot of college degrees.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Democrats successfully eliminated the Bush tax cuts for the rich by letting them expire. So everything is "fixed" now....unless of course you think we should go back to pre-Kennedy tax rates.
Until LTCG taxes are progressively bracketed nothing will change.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Somehow not taxing companies who have billions in the bank was good for the nation?

Bull crap.

Take apple for example. They have a cool 100 billion in the bank. Take 20% of that, and provide free college education for every US citizen.

I bet $20 billion could have paid for a lot of college degrees.
I wasn't aware Obama has unilateral power to seize money from corporations.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The majority of corporations are already squeezing every drop from everyone they can.

You need to make a distinction between those in the corporate world who make the money and do the cuts and the corporation itself. I'll tell you who has more control over the situation than they do and that's fund managers. They inherently prefer stability and so they don't fuss over what's happening, but I guarantee that if the corporate taxation rate skyrockets the next shareholder meeting will resemble an orchestra of scorched cats. Managers will move investments to companies which provide stability an return, not those who are guaranteed in perpetuity to suffer loss, and those in the corporation will have a choice to comply or be cast out with no parachute. That's real motivation.