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the dems can still filibuster in the senate as far as legislation is concerned. I'd say very little will get through.
 
FelixDeCat said:
Hopefully that obstructionist president does not try to stand in the way of The Republican Mandate!

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So what are the liberals' explanation of what happened last night? In both the Senate and governor races, there were alot of republican winners. A few months ago, liberals here had nearly declared that the republican party was pretty much dead...
 
dawp said:
the dems can still filibuster in the senate as far as legislation is concerned. I'd say very little will get through.
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First order of business...vote to repeal Obamacare and let the Democrats filibuster it. Once that's out of the way, I think we'll see Republicans start passing bipartisan legislation at a fairly sharp clip.
 
They are in charge for now. In two years Americans will be pissed off at the Republicans, and the Senate will be Democrat again. With Hillary at the controls.

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FelixDeCat said:
Hopefully that obstructionist president does not try to stand in the way of The Republican Mandate!

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Londo_Jowo said:
What Republican Mandate? Last I checked the Whitehouse is still in the control of the Democrats.
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Yeah, the only mandate I see from this elections was "do something already."

If the Rs want to relive the Ken Starr era its going to come right back at them in '16 and Hillary is no Al Gore.

What are the options Obama has for the remainder of his term? Either get something done and show he can work with the other side (an original campaign promise, and has tried in the past) or he can be a one man veto machine, do nothing domestically, and just be some gimped "foriegn policy President" left to dropping bombs on ISIS for two years.

The dems can't run filabusters without WH backing. Its not the same for them as it was for the R minority, who had nothing to lose and no real leaders. The Rs have to work with Obama or he can have the D senate shoot it down and veto anything else.

If they catfight, they both lose going into 2016, which is the real election.Best option for both sides is to work in the middle, get what you can and claim victory and goverance going into 16.

I never felt the Dems hanging on to a 1 vote majority in the Senate was good for them or the country. Aside from the governors races, this is actually a preferrable outcome for everyone strangely enough.
 
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spacejamz said:
So what are the liberals' explanation of what happened last night? In both the Senate and governor races, there were alot of republican winners. A few months ago, liberals here had nearly declared that the republican party was pretty much dead...
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Wait until 2016 😉
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
First order of business...vote to repeal Obamacare and let the Democrats filibuster it. Once that's out of the way, I think we'll see Republicans start passing bipartisan legislation at a fairly sharp clip.
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Obamacare is law. A law that the Republicans voted on and approved. It's not going anywhere.
 
WhipperSnapper said:
In a nation of Joe-the-Plumber morons, people will need to lube up and prepare their rectums for the top 5% and the Church to initiate anal penetration.
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not since the times of Rockefeller have the top 1% gotten as rich as during this presidency

Sorry guys but until we get more than D or R as an option they are both the same people now when it comes to the rich and corporations.
 
Mai72 said:
Obamacare is law. A law that the Republicans voted on and approved. It's not going anywhere.
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What are you talking about...not one Republican in the House or Senate voted for ACA. Anyway, I do agree that's it's not going anywhere for the next 2 years.
 
I think it's perfect. We get to see the an actual Republican vision (if they really have one). For all the Republicans in here, (what exactly is the R vision for any of the issues affecting America)? Now they can actually vote to end ObamaCare (I bet). It's easy to be on the opposite side of everything, harder to be for something. Also it sets up a situation where the American people can actually see a stark difference between the R's and the D's. Republicans are very good at electioneering because they play into people's fears. Never so good at actually governing.
 
Mai72 said:
Obamacare is law. A law that the Republicans voted on and approved.
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I think you might want to do a little research before making such statements.

Mai72 said:
They are in charge for now. In two years Americans will be pissed off at the Republicans, and the Senate will be Democrat again. With Hillary at the controls.

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Yeah, cheering Hillary potentially being elected -- that explains everything.


dawp said:
the dems can still filibuster in the senate as far as legislation is concerned. I'd say very little will get through.
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I'm sure many in here who condemned the Republicans for using the filibuster will also be condemning the Democrats for using it....
 
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emperus said:
For all the Republicans in here, (what exactly is the R vision for any of the issues affecting America)? Now they can actually vote to end ObamaCare (I bet).
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The aca can be a good piece of legislation, if the individual mandate is removed.

Anyone who supports individual liberties should oppose the individual mandate.
 
Texashiker said:
The aca can be a good piece of legislation, if the individual mandate is removed.

Anyone who supports individual liberties should oppose the individual mandate.
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There is no ACA without the mandate. Not if you want to keep the industry privitized anyway.
 
Bitek said:
There is no ACA without the mandate. Not if you want to keep the industry privitized anyway.
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Keep the corporate mandate. Remember that part of the law? The part that obama kept postponing?

You know, the part of the aca that would make companies provide healthcare for employees?

Its ok, I bet you forgot about that part of the law because obama postponed it.

Does the president have the authority to postpone a law? I thought obamas job was to uphold and enforce our laws through the justice department?

But then again, that might be why republicans won control of both houses, because obama is ignoring laws.
 
Mai72 said:
One Republican voted for ACA.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/physici...le-to-sign-obamacare-into-law-four-years-ago/
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Does that somehow make your statement accurate or honest? I think not.

Anyway, Wikipedia says the following:

On December 23, the Senate voted 60–39 to end debate on the bill: a cloture vote to end the filibuster. The bill then passed, also 60–39, on December 24, 2009, with all Democrats and two independents voting for it, and all Republicans against (except Jim Bunning, who did not vote).
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The House passed the Senate bill with a 219–212 vote on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act
 
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Well so much for the Republican party being dead.
Rather surprised they took the senate. Also surprised at the governor races. Illinois has a Republican gov?????
 
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