23 year old teacher arrested for having sex with 14 year old boy

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Aelius
[Great so you use theory and I use first hand experience. But of course I'm wrong. How did I not see this before. Hey maybe you can teach me from your vast experience and preach to the rest of the world too!

Sign me up.

Another scathing witticism. You've certainly proved your mettle in this thread; I need not go any further than this:

I didn't use theory, I used a psychology of women textbook and the class that accompanied it. Don't let the name fool you - it covers the entire lifespan of the female mind from birth to death. My statements are based on actual psychology, backed by actual studies that conform to accepted research methods. Now there are some that question psychology's, but you definitely don't have the educational foundation to even venture down that path, so don't even go there.

Says you. Just reading what you just wrote tells me one thing. You assume you know everything about someone based on a few posts and make a snap judgement based on it. That is normal but considering you put yourself on such a moral high ground it just proves your judgement isn't much better than before you took that class. Just because you were educated on a subject doesn't make you the ulimate authority on that subject and assuming everyone is wrong and you are right is a very uneducated reasoning.

Not that I'm suggesting you are somehow different from many other so called "experts" whom boast lavishy about someone based on less than all the facts as if they could read them like a textbook.

Pathetic.

Basically he has a problem with anyone that has morals. Fight the power man! Fight the power! If you had a 14 year old kid and found out that a 23 year old teacher had sexual relations with them then you'd be damn pissed off.

You're the one assuming everything here, more people than I are pointing it out. She's going to lose her job, likely serve time, and she deserves it.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Aelius
Says you. Just reading what you just wrote tells me one thing. You assume you know everything about someone based on a few posts and make a snap judgement based on it. That is normal but considering you put yourself on such a moral high ground it just proves your judgement isn't much better than before you took that class. Just because you were educated on a subject doesn't make you the ulimate authority on that subject and assuming everyone is wrong and you are right is a very uneducated reasoning.

Not that I'm suggesting you are somehow different from many other so called "experts" whom boast lavishy about someone based on less than all the facts as if they could read them like a textbook.

Pathetic.

You have me confused with someone else. I've never taken a moral stand at any point in this thread other than pointing out the irony that for one gender the response is "Attaboy!" and for another gender it's "Pedophile!" I don't recall mentioning my own feelings on the subject at all.

Nor have I commented one whit on your own morals - you've got me confused with Remagavon and others. I don't really care about morals - everyone has a different set and they don't change from debating on ATOT.

My only argument with you is your baseless statement that teenage girls are rarely sexually attracted to their teachers - it is simply not true. The only judgement I have made about you is that you don't have sufficient knowledge about this particular subject, and that judgement is soundly reasoned based on your prevailing debating tactics which consist of "I don't care what you say, I'm still right" type comments and personal insults.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: NeoV
no double standard...young girls are a crime to violate...what is the worst that happens to this kid? He's a stud now in his school.

the chick is probably a nympho - if she is cheating on her husband with students, she was probably cheating on him with other 'adults' as well - slap on the wrist, she'll lose her job - and she'll be dancing around a pole in a few months....kid will be fine, he'll get a few speeches, blah blah blah....

oh, and I'd hit it too..

It might strike you in the face at some point, hopefullly leaving a big red mark, which will remind for a few days that you are in fact wrong.

Just because a woman gets the hots for kids does not automatically mean that she is some sick whore who has been nailing everything with a heartbeat inside of ten miles.

Get over yourself. You don't know every freaking thing and this blanket statement shows it.

So the old guy that bangs 11 year old girls is fine too, right? I mean it automatically doesn't mean he's sick, he just likes to feel his d!ck rip through some flesh. Right? You're ignorant; and try to use condemning language to prove an invalid point.

You have no concept of the human mind or even what it is.

A male's brain does NOT work the same way as a females does.

To think it to be the same is just plain wrong. Science says you are wrong and I'm saying you are wrong.

Little 14 year old girls do not stay up at night dreaming about their older male teachers and most of them do not have a crush on them either.

Compare that to your average male kid who tries to hide the fact that he is pitching a tent for every hot teacher at school.

Maybe you don't fit the bill but most guys do so don't try to compare yourself to other guys if that's the case and most certainly don't even attempt to compare 14 year old boys to 14 year old girls. You are so far off base you don't even exist.

More condescending language, YAY! Stop making me so sad. I didn't say that wasn't the case, I simply pointed out the obvious double standard. You argue like you're ten, go back to bragging about your system specs in your obnoxiously long signature (see I can point the retarded finger too).

Maybe you were raised by scumbag parents who brought you up to think this type of thing is okay, hell maybe your mom had you at 16 with a 30 year old guy, I don't know. Regardless it doesn't justify this kind of behavior from a person, be them male OR female. You are an ignorant jackass; get out of your hole and into the real world where things like this aren't just on the internet and really do exist, and really DO fvck people up.

You accuse me of arguing like I'm 10 yet you cannot even pick out the obvious that my sig doesn't have my system specs in it and is there for informational purpose, not to brag. I aint got any of that stuff yet but when I do it will be added to my rig link and won't be in my sig. You're about as sharp as a door knob.

As far as your second statement why don't you take your assinine assumptions and keep it to yourself. Nobody here, except a few immature pricks, care about what you think about someone on a forum whom you have never meet and are stupid enough to think you can ever possibly judge them.

I don't care if you think something is immoral. That's your problem so you deal with it. Just don't assume you can control how other people can act if they are in a mutual relationship. Keep in mind that its perfectly legal where I live. Perhaps you should stop to think that maybe you don't own the entire planet and you shouldn't be telling everyone how to live.

Megalomaniacs like you make me sick.

I can think what I damn well want to think and you can't tell me otherwise. I disagree with your entire reasoning and that's not going to change. Future rig? Does anyone care?

someone on a forum whom you have never meet and are stupid enough to think you can ever possibly judge them.

You rebuttal with statments that say posting my opinion is wrong, but people want this 'information' about some pc that some random person on an internet forum is going to get? You're the one that needs to get a clue.. (how do you get clues anyway- are they expensive like your pc?)

That's your problem so you deal with it.

This is a TEACHER and a STUDENT. At many places workplace relationships are frowned upon. And those are between consenting ADULTS. I don't give a fvck what you have to say, a 14 year old kid is NOT an adult.

A mutal relationship with a teacher? You're saying that this is legal where you live and that they're perfectly right in doing that. Do you live in this country? I'd like to know where she won't get fired. Take YOUR assinine assumptions and shove THEM.

I hope I 'made you sick' enough that you won't be coming back .

To your first point. Yes Mr. Clueless someone does care. I had someone on this board approach me about how to build a new rig because they had little experience based on my comments ijn threads and they also found my picks on hardware very helpful to them. That's why its there.

I also never said that you cannot post your opinion. You simply take it that way. I said you shouldn't have a right to tell others what to do. There is a fundemental difference that you cannot separate because it makes you feel weak. You don't have to be a control freak and a hypocrite every day of your life you know.

The only thing I 100% agree with is that teacher/students should have a relationship. That's because the teacher is in a position of authority over the student. Now if she moved to another school and had the relationship then that's different. Don't take this to mean I'm backpedling. We just never go so far as to discuss this part of what happend.

I don't give a fvck what you have to say, a 14 year old kid is NOT an adult.

That's obvious. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't care. Great way to defend your point of view. Feel angry yet? Perhaps you would like to hit your parents? No? GF then? How about a wall?

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: Aelius
You have become the all encompassing authority on right and wrong and everyone must conform to your beliefs weather they like it or not.

Mr. Meglomaniac, let me introduce you to the idea that you do not control everyone and have no right to do so.

So would you boink a 14-year-old girl if you had the chance? You may not have to conform to others belief systems, but good luck not conforming to the law. This teacher's life is over. She'll be a convicted felon in a few short months.

Do you see how other people also agree here.. and you're the one who actually isn't being cared about?

Another scathing witticism. You've certainly proved your mettle in this thread; I need not go any further than this

Add another to the list

Edit:

Aelius:

If you disagree with the law so much then lobby and get it changed, but your effort would most likely be in vain.

It might be obvious if you read the whole thread, I won't blame you cause it is like 14 freaking pages, but I made it clear I'm Canadian.

The law favors her here, granted she didn't do it here. Either way 14 is legal here so I don't need to change the law.

As for the US the Libertarian party is doing that for me.

You have to read into what they are talking about to understand where they are coming from and why they think it is morally wrong to convict two individuals whom consent to have sex. The flip side of the coin is that they also, always, preach personal responsibility. You have sex with a 14 year old boy and his life is fked up cause of it then guess what... you take responsibility. If it costs money for conseling then it comes out of YOUR pocket... etc.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Aelius

You're telling me what I can and can not be, and I'm the control freak? The only reason I insulted you is because you have used condescending language in virtually every single post that you've made disagreeing with someone here. Go check my first reply.

That's obvious. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't care. Great way to defend your point of view. Feel angry yet? Perhaps you would like to hit your parents? No? GF then? How about a wall?

This proves what I just typed. You sound like luvly with all of this psychobable.

 

[remagavon]

It might be obvious if you read the whole thread, I won't blame you cause it is like 14 freaking pages, but I made it clear I'm Canadian.

The law favors her here, granted she didn't do it here. Either way 14 is legal here so I don't need to change the law.

As for the US the Libertarian party is doing that for me.

You have to read into what they are talking about to understand where they are coming from and why they think it is morally wrong to convict two individuals whom consent to have sex. The flip side of the coin is that they also, always, preach personal responsibility. You have sex with a 14 year old boy and his life is fked up cause of it then guess what... you take responsibility. If it costs money for conseling then it comes out of YOUR pocket... etc.

Finally you make sense and act reasonable! I'm 100% behind the responsibility thing, if that was enforced then it'd be fine. But the postion of authority was abused and that's the main issue, although I never mentioned it neither did you until a minute ago So we're on the same page basically. You can think what you want but it won't change me and I don't like anyone trying to do that

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Aelius
[Great so you use theory and I use first hand experience. But of course I'm wrong. How did I not see this before. Hey maybe you can teach me from your vast experience and preach to the rest of the world too!

Sign me up.

Another scathing witticism. You've certainly proved your mettle in this thread; I need not go any further than this:

I didn't use theory, I used a psychology of women textbook and the class that accompanied it. Don't let the name fool you - it covers the entire lifespan of the female mind from birth to death. My statements are based on actual psychology, backed by actual studies that conform to accepted research methods. Now there are some that question psychology's, but you definitely don't have the educational foundation to even venture down that path, so don't even go there.

Says you. Just reading what you just wrote tells me one thing. You assume you know everything about someone based on a few posts and make a snap judgement based on it. That is normal but considering you put yourself on such a moral high ground it just proves your judgement isn't much better than before you took that class. Just because you were educated on a subject doesn't make you the ulimate authority on that subject and assuming everyone is wrong and you are right is a very uneducated reasoning.

Not that I'm suggesting you are somehow different from many other so called "experts" whom boast lavishy about someone based on less than all the facts as if they could read them like a textbook.

Pathetic.

Basically he has a problem with anyone that has morals. Fight the power man! Fight the power! If you had a 14 year old kid and found out that a 23 year old teacher had sexual relations with them then you'd be damn pissed off.

You're the one assuming everything here, more people than I are pointing it out. She's going to lose her job, likely serve time, and she deserves it.

That's your opinion. Don't try to put everyone in the same boat.

Yes if I had a kid I would be pissed if my 14 year old boy was banging his English teacher. Having said that I wouldn't go off the deep end and come after her with a sawed off shotgun or something stupid like that.

However I will not assume I would know exactly what I would do next since I do not have a 14 year old boy. I don't think anyone can truly say what they would do in that case. Each person is different.

Having said that I would try to handle the situation as best I could based on the facts on hand and try to figure out first if it was mutual consent or some wierdo sick fvck who is doing this for some other reason.

Just because I agree with mutual consent it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do 100% of the time. Each situation is different. I refuse to lump all of them into the same boat.

However having said even that I would 100% agree with not having my 14 year old be under the authority of said teacher. It creates too many problems, plus not to mention it could already have created problems for which I would hold the teacher responsible.

You guys are just looking at one angle. I'm not.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Aelius

You're telling me what I can and can not be, and I'm the control freak? The only reason I insulted you is because you have used condescending language in virtually every single post that you've made disagreeing with someone here. Go check my first reply.

That's obvious. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't care. Great way to defend your point of view. Feel angry yet? Perhaps you would like to hit your parents? No? GF then? How about a wall?

This proves what I just typed. You sound like luvly with all of this psychobable.

It proves you have no connection to reality. No one in their right mind would think I'm telling you, above, that you cannot say or do as you wish.

Quite the opposite. You are the one telling me that no one is allowed to do such and such because it's wrong.

Don't blame me if you cannot understand a simple concept like this.

 

[0roo0roo]

I don't give a fvck what you have to say, a 14 year old kid is NOT an adult.

according to our legal system, its old enough to understand things like murder, which is why we sometimes prosecute them as adults. it is not an age of total niavety.

the problem with this case, is that it will be treated exactly the same as if a 50 year old man rapes a young boy.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: remagavon

It might be obvious if you read the whole thread, I won't blame you cause it is like 14 freaking pages, but I made it clear I'm Canadian.

The law favors her here, granted she didn't do it here. Either way 14 is legal here so I don't need to change the law.

As for the US the Libertarian party is doing that for me.

You have to read into what they are talking about to understand where they are coming from and why they think it is morally wrong to convict two individuals whom consent to have sex. The flip side of the coin is that they also, always, preach personal responsibility. You have sex with a 14 year old boy and his life is fked up cause of it then guess what... you take responsibility. If it costs money for conseling then it comes out of YOUR pocket... etc.

Finally you make sense and act reasonable! I'm 100% behind the responsibility thing, if that was enforced then it'd be fine. But the postion of authority was abused and that's the main issue, although I never mentioned it neither did you until a minute ago So we're on the same page basically. You can think what you want but it won't change me and I don't like anyone trying to do that

I agree 100%.

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: KirbsAw

Originally posted by: Orsorum
Actually, quite a few times. The guys that I have talked to don't realize it was rape, though. In fact, the first one I can think of was on ATOT, the guy was posting how he'd gone to... either Canada or Mexico, was partying with some friends and had spent the night being hit on by a corpulent female friend... he passed out, and woke up as she was mounting him. IIRC that was when he lost his virginity, too.

Now that I think about it, does anyone remember that thread? Was a couple years ago.

If only I had a dollar for everytime I woke up being mounted by a hot chick.....

or if you paid a dollar for every time you wished you woke up being mounted ... you'd be in majopr debt?

I prefer my system, that way i'm just broke

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: remagavon

It might be obvious if you read the whole thread, I won't blame you cause it is like 14 freaking pages, but I made it clear I'm Canadian.

The law favors her here, granted she didn't do it here. Either way 14 is legal here so I don't need to change the law.

As for the US the Libertarian party is doing that for me.

You have to read into what they are talking about to understand where they are coming from and why they think it is morally wrong to convict two individuals whom consent to have sex. The flip side of the coin is that they also, always, preach personal responsibility. You have sex with a 14 year old boy and his life is fked up cause of it then guess what... you take responsibility. If it costs money for conseling then it comes out of YOUR pocket... etc.

Finally you make sense and act reasonable! I'm 100% behind the responsibility thing, if that was enforced then it'd be fine. But the postion of authority was abused and that's the main issue, although I never mentioned it neither did you until a minute ago So we're on the same page basically. You can think what you want but it won't change me and I don't like anyone trying to do that

I agree 100%.

:beer: on that point!

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Aelius
Says you. Just reading what you just wrote tells me one thing. You assume you know everything about someone based on a few posts and make a snap judgement based on it. That is normal but considering you put yourself on such a moral high ground it just proves your judgement isn't much better than before you took that class. Just because you were educated on a subject doesn't make you the ulimate authority on that subject and assuming everyone is wrong and you are right is a very uneducated reasoning.

Not that I'm suggesting you are somehow different from many other so called "experts" whom boast lavishy about someone based on less than all the facts as if they could read them like a textbook.

Pathetic.

You have me confused with someone else. I've never taken a moral stand at any point in this thread other than pointing out the irony that for one gender the response is "Attaboy!" and for another gender it's "Pedophile!" I don't recall mentioning my own feelings on the subject at all.

Nor have I commented one whit on your own morals - you've got me confused with Remagavon and others. I don't really care about morals - everyone has a different set and they don't change from debating on ATOT.

My only argument with you is your baseless statement that teenage girls are rarely sexually attracted to their teachers - it is simply not true. The only judgement I have made about you is that you don't have sufficient knowledge about this particular subject, and that judgement is soundly reasoned based on your prevailing debating tactics which consist of "I don't care what you say, I'm still right" type comments and personal insults.

When you tell someone they are full of crap don't expect a warm hello in return. They ever teach you that in school or did you fall asleep in class for it?

I also never said I don't care.

You are confusing me with some of the others whom continually repeat that.

If I didn't care I would let you know in no uncertain terms.

The only thing I don't care about is your opinion about me. You can say whatever the heck you want about the subject at hand.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: remagavon

It might be obvious if you read the whole thread, I won't blame you cause it is like 14 freaking pages, but I made it clear I'm Canadian.

The law favors her here, granted she didn't do it here. Either way 14 is legal here so I don't need to change the law.

As for the US the Libertarian party is doing that for me.

You have to read into what they are talking about to understand where they are coming from and why they think it is morally wrong to convict two individuals whom consent to have sex. The flip side of the coin is that they also, always, preach personal responsibility. You have sex with a 14 year old boy and his life is fked up cause of it then guess what... you take responsibility. If it costs money for conseling then it comes out of YOUR pocket... etc.

Finally you make sense and act reasonable! I'm 100% behind the responsibility thing, if that was enforced then it'd be fine. But the postion of authority was abused and that's the main issue, although I never mentioned it neither did you until a minute ago So we're on the same page basically. You can think what you want but it won't change me and I don't like anyone trying to do that

I agree 100%.

:beer: on that point!

That's all I have been saying. I didn't explain the responsibility part at first because I tend to leave out what I think is "obvious". That's my downfall.

 

[alkemyst]

nothing like a bunch of virgins getting together to discuss sexual ethics.

Anyways in regards to male rape. It's man to rape a man in the sense of how a man rapes a female many times....but if you think about the morning wood issue that is how it's usually done. I have woken up to sex...it's hard to enjoy if you have to pee though

If those in here think 14year olds aren't becoming the new 16 (losing virginity, which used to be 17/18) , you are sadly mistaken. Don't blame the kids though, blame the parents and media. Also in most cases it's a natural thing, nothing forced...it's the parents that can't deal with it, and 10 years later they can't either...they just don't have to deal with it at home.

You have kids they are going to have sex, I can only imagine how painful it is esp. for a father/daughter, but it's life.

 

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Anyways in regards to male rape. It's man to rape a man in the sense of how a man rapes a female many times....but if you think about the morning wood issue that is how it's usually done. I have woken up to sex...it's hard to enjoy if you have to pee though

What in holy hell are you talking about?

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Anyways in regards to male rape. It's man to rape a man in the sense of how a man rapes a female many times....but if you think about the morning wood issue that is how it's usually done. I have woken up to sex...it's hard to enjoy if you have to pee though

What in holy hell are you talking about?

lol...i think he is saying men get raped because theyhave morning wood?

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Aelius
When you tell someone they are full of crap don't expect a warm hello in return. They ever teach you that in school or did you fall asleep in class for it?

That's your [mis]interpretation, and with it, there comes the condescension again. You made a baseless statement of opinion and presented it as an authoritative fact and I blew the whistle on it. I certainly worded it reasonably diplomatically. I didn't call you a flaming moron, I simply stated that you don't know as much about this subject as you're trying let on, and I don't think that is an inaccurate or unfair statement. I apologize if you felt it was overly insulting - that wasn't the intention at all. I was just trying to set the record straight, so to speak, and I would expect you to call me out similarly if our roles were reversed.

 

[randumb]

Jzero - 9812938021983, Aelius - 0

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Aelius
When you tell someone they are full of crap don't expect a warm hello in return. They ever teach you that in school or did you fall asleep in class for it?

That's your [mis]interpretation, and with it, there comes the condescension again. You made a baseless statement of opinion and presented it as an authoritative fact and I blew the whistle on it. I certainly worded it reasonably diplomatically. I didn't call you a flaming moron, I simply stated that you don't know as much about this subject as you're trying let on, and I don't think that is an inaccurate or unfair statement. I apologize if you felt it was overly insulting - that wasn't the intention at all. I was just trying to set the record straight, so to speak, and I would expect you to call me out similarly if our roles were reversed.

You assume it is baseless because it doesn't come from your point of view. I do not accept your apology since you fail to do a half hearted one, let alone a proper one. You are also a hyprocite based on my first sentence.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: randumb
Jzero - 9812938021983, Aelius - 0

I'm glad at least one of your supporters can count. All the way up to 0.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Aelius

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Aelius
When you tell someone they are full of crap don't expect a warm hello in return. They ever teach you that in school or did you fall asleep in class for it?

That's your [mis]interpretation, and with it, there comes the condescension again. You made a baseless statement of opinion and presented it as an authoritative fact and I blew the whistle on it. I certainly worded it reasonably diplomatically. I didn't call you a flaming moron, I simply stated that you don't know as much about this subject as you're trying let on, and I don't think that is an inaccurate or unfair statement. I apologize if you felt it was overly insulting - that wasn't the intention at all. I was just trying to set the record straight, so to speak, and I would expect you to call me out similarly if our roles were reversed.

You assume it is baseless because it doesn't come from your point of view. I do not accept your apology since you fail to do a half hearted one, let alone a proper one. You are also a hyprocite based on my first sentence.

Your point of view is irrelevant when making a statement of fact. Form my point of view, Fords are the most unreliable cars on the planet because I have had personal experiences with 5 Fords and 4 of the cars were complete pieces of junk.

However for me to take that anecdotal evidence and present it as a factual statement that 80% of all Fords are unreliable is flat-out wrong. Even if I had driven 1000 Fords, I have not driven enough to be able to pose that statement as anything other than my own biased opinion.

Your statement is assumed to be baseless because it comes with no accompanying evidence, and your follow-ups after being called on it, which were a blather of ad hominem attacks, speak volumes about your lack of knowledge of both female psychology and debating techniques.

I rescind my apology - you almost sounded like a reasonable, educated adult for about 2 posts, but you quickly allowed yourself to slip back into juvenile name calling, and then you've got the nerve to question my sincerity on top of it.

Have it your way. If you think I was saying you are full of crap, all I can say, then, is that age-old cliche, "If the shoe fits..."

 

[thejackal1]

At least my sig comes in handy for once in my life.

 

[CoolTech]

Originally posted by: lnguyen
hrm... she didn't have sex with him three times... just in three places... as it says the cousin was there for two of the auto encounters... wow, how many times did he hit it

and how is this not 3 times, so he had it in her the whole time? lol

 

[bbkat]

Originally posted by: lnguyen
hrm... she didn't have sex with him three times... just in three places...

She gave him ALL THREE places???!!!