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TheSlamma

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Failed to prevent penetration of systems. Check
For the better part of a year, failed to detect compromised systems Check
Failed to detect extraction of data Check

No one responsible Check

What was this lady's qualifications again?
Breaking news -- she quit.

Apparently, if you are a former National Political Director for Obama's reelection campaign, you can lose 4 million sets of PIID and everything is fine.

If however, you lose 21 million sets of PIID, then you have to quit?

Who said that the Obama Administration didn't have cybersecurity standards?

Uno
It's surprising that Obama didn't learn from Bush's failures in this same department. All leaders and people of management should know to surround yourself with people that make you look good. That is why you don't give the jobs to cronies, buddies, family members or for political reasons. They will almost always screw it up for you. Look for the best/most qualified candidate for the job.
 

lotus503

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I dunno,

I don't see this as a partisan issue at all. I see this as a manifestation of how slow government moves in relation to technology. Its not that government doesn't know what is required to be more secure, rather government has not taken the required actions.


What I want to know isn't who need to quit or be fired, but what is the plan of action related to these types of issues, what is the general difficulties with implementing technology solutions to the serious lack of basic security.

I also see this is a massive planning failure, architecting encryption at rest is not difficult. Who was it that thought having a system that stores PII without encryption at rest was OK?
 

SMOGZINN

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It's surprising that Obama didn't learn from Bush's failures in this same department. All leaders and people of management should know to surround yourself with people that make you look good. That is why you don't give the jobs to cronies, buddies, family members or for political reasons. They will almost always screw it up for you. Look for the best/most qualified candidate for the job.

It would have happened no matter who was in the position. The problem is one of budget. These agencies has been running on lean budgets and that leaves no room for security upgrades.
 

TheSlamma

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It would have happened no matter who was in the position. The problem is one of budget. These agencies has been running on lean budgets and that leaves no room for security upgrades.
Many times it's more about the IT skillset and understanding of security running the show than budget. The Target breach was carelessness 101 with them opening their firewall up for their Building Automation System. Wouldn't matter how much money they spent..might as well leave the exits open at the theater.

While money is a decent portion of IT security you are not wrong there, knowledge is by far the majority factor. Right now in the age of Shadow IT security professionals need to be extra diligent not just in the actual systems administration but just on written policies and practices for how staff use IT.
 

ivwshane

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lol, CREW is well known to be liberal group.

So the answer is yes.

Let me guess, knowing you now is when the name calling and personal attacks fire up?

CREW is a well known liberal group? So liberal they have two stories about dems on their front page! Rangel who's on the most corrupt list and obama for not being transparent!

Keep reaching buddy!
 
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I guess the Gobermint is going to have to spend more money on IT security. I wonder who will approve additional spending?
 

boomerang

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What I hear in the news is anyone that has had a security background check in the last 15 years may/has been got.


I have had 3 checks for 3 different sites....


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My wife's one sister works for the .gov. She's pretty deeply involved in the process of arms sales to some of the countries in the M.E. She's worked for them for about 30 years but her daughter just got an internship a few months back, they more than likely got her information. She had to fill out 128 pages, submit it and then when they decided to take her on, she had to do it all over online. Same information, same 128 pages.

My wife's son works in the shipyards in or around Norfolk. He's former Navy and has the security clearances to allow him to refit aircraft carriers with the latest electronics. Can't remember who he's working for now, used to be Northrup-Grumman. I believe there are two major players in that game and he bops between them depending on who got what contract. I bet he got nailed on this too.
 

Kwatt

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One of the places I had to pass a background check on. When I got computer access the default password was my DOB. Of course, for security it had to be entered in reverse...


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unokitty

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It's surprising that Obama didn't learn from Bush's failures in this same department. All leaders and people of management should know to surround yourself with people that make you look good. That is why you don't give the jobs to cronies, buddies, family members or for political reasons. They will almost always screw it up for you. Look for the best/most qualified candidate for the job.


If your point is that it isn't appropriate to expect anything more, or better, from Obama than from Bush, I'll agree.

Both take money from the same lobbyists.

Both have kept the war in the Middle East going.

Both have kept the prison at Guantanamo operating.

Both have kept the profits rolling in for the defense industry.


Reality is Obama and Bush has much, much more in common with each other, than either has with you or I.

Hope and change? Hope but no accountability?

Whatever...

Uno
 
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Hugo Drax

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Nothing will change, one halfwit gets replaced with another, congress talks, news reports.

3 months later everyone forgets.
 

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Lifer
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^ Yeah, me too. Already had it because of Anthem Blue Cross breach a few months back.
 

Jhhnn

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It would have happened no matter who was in the position. The problem is one of budget. These agencies has been running on lean budgets and that leaves no room for security upgrades.

Why would people who want to tear down govt upgrade govt anything? Well, anything that isn't military or national security?

Congress wants Archuleta's head? How about their own heads? Shee-it, Sherlock- Agencies like the OPM have had to cut staff thanks to the sequester & general stinginess from Congress. The notion that they could get Congress to budget upgrades is absurd, & they know it, so they make do with old insecure systems, do the best they can with what they have.

The partisan hackery over Archuleta's appointment is par for the course, naturally. It's not like the agency failed to perform when needed, is it? Not like FEMA when Katrina hit, is it?
 

trenchfoot

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Why would people who want to tear down govt upgrade govt anything? Well, anything that isn't military or national security?

Congress wants Archuleta's head? How about their own heads? Shee-it, Sherlock- Agencies like the OPM have had to cut staff thanks to the sequester & general stinginess from Congress. The notion that they could get Congress to budget upgrades is absurd, & they know it, so they make do with old insecure systems, do the best they can with what they have.

The partisan hackery over Archuleta's appointment is par for the course, naturally. It's not like the agency failed to perform when needed, is it? Not like FEMA when Katrina hit, is it?

That falls under the heading of defeating government by starvation. It's plain to see that those who want to control the reins of gov't realize that the smaller and weaker you make it, the easier it is to take control of it.

Weakening the government is in reality weakening the power of the vote so as to make it meaningless and nothing more than a placebo for the masses.
 

ivwshane

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That falls under the heading of defeating government by starvation. It's plain to see that those who want to control the reins of gov't realize that the smaller and weaker you make it, the easier it is to take control of it.

Weakening the government is in reality weakening the power of the vote so as to make it meaningless and nothing more than a placebo for the masses.

Pretty much. You can make any government program look like a failure if you defund it enough.
 

cubby1223

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I'm not sure what your pic has to do with my post unless you were just letting everyone know that reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Please let whatever crawled up your butt crawl back out ;) While you might perceive it as, not everything in this world is a fight. You never played Sim City 2000?
 

SheHateMe

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Oh Great!


Just waiting for OPM to send me that letter in the mail.

So, I guess I have to sign up for Lifelock or something :(
 

sportage

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There is someone to blame for this. GW and his administration.
They, when ruling the country, turned over nearly all of government data security over to the private sector.
With this hack, this involved China hacking those "private sector" companies which lack the proper levels of security.
GW... the gift that just keeps on giving and giving.
 

cabri

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There is someone to blame for this. GW and his administration.
They, when ruling the country, turned over nearly all of government data security over to the private sector.
With this hack, this involved China hacking those "private sector" companies which lack the proper levels of security.
GW... the gift that just keeps on giving and giving.

Yet the breach occurred under Obama. His people were in charge of OPM.

We know the quality of data systems that they control.

OPM
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