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K1052

K1052

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MrSquished said:
This is fucking brilliant really. Fucking genius political tactics.
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Go on TV right before Trump announces his VP pick, let him have it with everything he's got left, take victory lap for beating him in 20 and presidency, thank voters for their support, announce withdrawal/release of delegates, and announce endorsement of Harris. Good luck and good night.
 
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K1052 said:
Go on TV right before Trump announces his VP pick, let him have it with everything he's got left, take victory lap for beating him in 20 and presidency, thank voters for their support, announce withdrawal/release of delegates, and announce endorsement of Harris. Good luck and good night.
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This is like giving me a political chubby.

If the Dems pull something like this off, gamechanger.
 
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MrSquished said:
This is fucking brilliant really. Fucking genius political tactics.
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K1052 said:
Go on TV right before Trump announces his VP pick, let him have it with everything he's got left, take victory lap for beating him in 20 and presidency, thank voters for their support, announce withdrawal/release of delegates, and announce endorsement of Harris. Good luck and good night.
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that would be an epic political move. to a certain extent it's a big gamble, but if you're gonna do it, might as well go big or go home. because the alternative is the end of democracy.
 
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I've yet to meet anyone who is voting for Trump who wasn't voting for him before.

The supposed sympathy vote works if you don't know the candidate.. but everyone knows Trump through and through.

If anything it maybe gets the camera off Joe for a bit, so he'll have to work harder but he nailed his compassionate president. He didn't come across as the bad guy no matter what.

This whole thing is a nothing burger.

 
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eelw

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Indus said:
I've yet to meet anyone who is voting for Trump who wasn't voting for him before.

The supposed sympathy vote works if you don't know the candidate.. but everyone knows Trump through and through.

If anything it maybe gets the camera off Joe for a bit, so he'll have to work harder but he nailed his compassionate president. He didn't come across as the bad guy no matter what.

This whole thing is a nothing burger.
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I wouldn’t call it a nothing burger. This is a huge concern that has finally reared its ugly head in this hugely partisan political world. People should be concerned. But yes I agree that people are idiots thinking this has handed the orange monkey the election. This won’t sway anyone. Like what will MAGAtards to, vote twice to show their displeasure?
 
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eelw said:
I wouldn’t call it a nothing burger. This is a huge concern that has finally reared its ugly head in this hugely partisan political world. People should be concerned. But yes I agree that people are idiots thinking this has handed the orange monkey the election. This won’t sway anyone. Like what will MAGAtards to, vote twice to show their displeasure?
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Everybody I see post things like "Well, I wasn't voting for him before but now I am for sure" if you go into their feeds it's they were posting stuff like "Trump4Eva" and "MAGA 2024" days or weeks before this happened. Just because people say something doesn't mean we necessarily have to automatically believe them.
 
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K1052 said:
Everybody I see post things like "Well, I wasn't voting for him before but now I am for sure" if you go into their feeds it's they were posting stuff like "Trump4Eva" and "MAGA 2024" days or weeks before this happened. Just because people say something doesn't mean we necessarily have to automatically believe them.
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Exactly. The supposed squishy undecideds are greenie types. Faux outrage closeted traitors
 
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Roger Wilco said:
Pretty good first three days for Harris.

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It's not about money.. it's about possibly getting men back on board.

I can't fathom how Biden was hemorrhaging men to Trump even though he clearly had better policies designed to help them.

But this is a problem.. if Biden couldn't keep them.. how will Kam get across to them and possibly get them to come back and vote for her?

Can they even be convinced at this point?
 
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With the huge protests against Netanyahu speaking for congress today, it’s still these people that need convincing not voting is stupid. Anything that improves the odds of the orange monkey winning just further gives more weapons to Israel.
 
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Indus said:
It's not about money.. it's about possibly getting men back on board.

I can't fathom how Biden was hemorrhaging men to Trump even though he clearly had better policies designed to help them.

But this is a problem.. if Biden couldn't keep them.. how will Kam get across to them and possibly get them to come back and vote for her?

Can they even be convinced at this point?
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I honestly think most of them should just be...put to sleep. That leaves more of the ladies for me, a man, but that's not at all the reason for my thinking.

Seriously, seems to be some yearning to go back to caveman roots when men were men and the farm animals were nervous. Iow, let's all turn into blithering selfish misogynistic assholes, because we are butthurt over all this "equality" running rampant. If college educated women suddenly couldn't vote (and don't give the GOP any ideas), the Democrats wouldn't even get "show" in the race....
 
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Stokely said:
I honestly think most of them should just be...put to sleep. That leaves more of the ladies for me, a man, but that's not at all the reason for my thinking.

Seriously, seems to be some yearning to go back to caveman roots when men were men and the farm animals were nervous. Iow, let's all turn into blithering selfish misogynistic assholes, because we are butthurt over all this "equality" running rampant. If college educated women suddenly couldn't vote (and don't give the GOP any ideas), the Democrats wouldn't even get "show" in the race....
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I don't entirely disagree but we need at least some in the swing states. Rust belt states should be a priority.
 
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Indus said:
It's not about money.. it's about possibly getting men back on board.

I can't fathom how Biden was hemorrhaging men to Trump even though he clearly had better policies designed to help them.

But this is a problem.. if Biden couldn't keep them.. how will Kam get across to them and possibly get them to come back and vote for her?

Can they even be convinced at this point?
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It’s July, and Harris has been the presumptive nominee for just a few days.

Considering she hasn’t even campaigned yet, there is reason to believe these polls indicate a floor rather than a ceiling.
 
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at least 80 dems have so far announced they are not going to listen to the war criminal Netanyahu speak - including kamala and nancy. More to come I hope.
 
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Roger Wilco said:
Pretty good first three days for Harris.
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The race is tight, within the MOE. Same poll had Joe Biden down 6 points a few weeks ago, so this is an improvement.



Stokely said:
I honestly think most of them should just be...put to sleep. That leaves more of the ladies for me, a man, but that's not at all the reason for my thinking.

Seriously, seems to be some yearning to go back to caveman roots when men were men and the farm animals were nervous. Iow, let's all turn into blithering selfish misogynistic assholes, because we are butthurt over all this "equality" running rampant. If college educated women suddenly couldn't vote (and don't give the GOP any ideas), the Democrats wouldn't even get "show" in the race....
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In other words, Joe Rogan has a lot of fans.
 
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