2022 US midterms election watch party/thread

[emperus]

Some have already called Arizona for Kelly.

 

[ondma]

One thing I do agree on with Fox News and Hannity, AZ is F-ked up.
It should never take this long to count a few ballots, and the numbers they are counting vs the over-all does amount to a few ballots when weighted against that over-all number.

No way Lake for gov, but she does promise to fix the screw-ups in AZ ballot counting, and that is definitely a plus for her side. And these morons AZ has coming out there to the media to give excuses on why the court is taking so long? Maybe if AZ hired someone who actually had an IQ above 12 then maybe the counting would be finished already.

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Yea, Lake would "fix the ballot counting" by throwing out all except those who voted for her.

 

[Muse]

People hailing DeSantis as some kind of God, meanwhile Gretchen Whitmer not only won her re-election as Gov of Michigan in a state that tried to kidnap her, but Democrats took control of the state house.

Despite what the right wing media says, Whitmer is a far bigger story.

Michigan!

Now, I as well as most, obviously, anticipated some kind of red wave Tuesday. However, leading up to Tuesday, I had some ideas that it might not be so. Reason: A day or two before election Tuesday I watched a YT video which IIRC was a remote conversation between documentarian Michael Moore and some person. You may remember that Michael Moore was one of the rare relatively sane people who warned that Trump could (would?) win in 2016. He'd made a documentary about Trumpism in Michigan, IIRC (which I watched). It was seeing Moore's face in a TV studio at 8PM Pacific Time on 2016 election night when I knew that a dark cloud had settled over the USA that was going to last at least 4 years.

Well, it was in this video I watched a day or two before election Tuesday 2022 that Moore was rather optimistic and thought the anticipated red wave was NOT coming. So, I was not expecting anything but a red wave BUT I WAS HOPEFUL! Turns out Moore was right again. I know a lot of people don't like him including a lot of people here, but I have never disliked MM! In fact, I have dug some of his docs, sure haven't seen all, but I resonate with the cat. I guess he really knows Michigan.

Yo! Here it is! Moore comes in about 1 minute into this <10 min. video.

 

[Muse]

It's designed to be this way by their GOP state level legislature.

And probably because they're so paranoid about fraud that they have to verify every ballot before counting it, i.e. signatures and whatever.

 

[Muse]

So apparently the dems picked up the majority of voters who said they "somewhat disapproved" of Biden. Which has never happened before. What that says to me is that people who do not like or trust Trump and the GOP, really do not like or trust Trump and the GOP.

How 'meh' voters may have saved Democrats | CNN Politics

No matter the ultimate outcome in the fights for the House and Senate majorities, one thing is clear: Democrats will not suffer the broadscale losses that are typical for a president's party in a midterm election.

www.cnn.com

Well, by and large, people were not rabid haters of Biden, they just didn't "approve." That's because he's old, has an expiration date so to speak, but it does not necessarily translate to "I'm not going to vote for Democrats." That's something I have figured all along. I did not expect a red wave by virtue of the electorate (polled electorate) saying they didn't approve of Biden. I have suspected those numbers all along as being deceptive about what's really going on.

 

[IronWing]

And probably because they're so paranoid about fraud that they have to verify every ballot before counting it, i.e. signatures and whatever.

Yep, Arizona Republicans grabbed onto signature verification as a tool of voter harassment and disenfranchisement. Disputing signatures happens from the day a voter registers right through to Election Day. Funny thing is that the Republicans only ever dispute the signatures of registered Democrats; it’s almost like the Republicans are dishonest fascist assholes who then hypocritically complain about how long it takes to tally the votes.

 

[Thump553]

Obama's 61 and was a constitutional expert. He's also declarative and persuasive. Would have more sway than a single vote on the court. However, serving on the court would likely curtail his usefulness on the campaign trail if not nix it. Just dreaming here I guess.

Been my secret dream as well ever since the end of his Presidency. The real hard part will be getting him through the Senate vote-it would be the end of career for any GOP senator that voted for him.

OTOH people think Thomas is bad now, wait for the Trump appointments to gain more confidence. They are very young by Supreme Court standards (will be there for a couple of decades) and are at least as partisan as Thomas-and without any of his pretensions to care about the Constitution.

I also think the Dems should campaign on getting nominees will to reverse the 19th century blunder of gerrymandering and make fair voter representation one of their primary planks.

 

[Zorba]

So apparently the dems picked up the majority of voters who said they "somewhat disapproved" of Biden. Which has never happened before. What that says to me is that people who do not like or trust Trump and the GOP, really do not like or trust Trump and the GOP.

How 'meh' voters may have saved Democrats | CNN Politics

No matter the ultimate outcome in the fights for the House and Senate majorities, one thing is clear: Democrats will not suffer the broadscale losses that are typical for a president's party in a midterm election.

www.cnn.com

I remember in 2010 I "somewhat disapproved" of Obama and still voted D's. I was disappointed because I didn't think he had done enough. I have a feeling similar feelings are dogging Biden, people want more of his agenda not less.

 

[gothuevos]

Man, DeSantis is in a tough spot. Does he fire back at Trump and risk alienating the base? Or does he just take it and risk being called a beta?

You hate to see it.

 

[eelw]

Yep, Arizona Republicans grabbed onto signature verification as a tool of voter harassment and disenfranchisement. Disputing signatures happens from the day a voter registers right through to Election Day. Funny thing is that the Republicans only ever dispute the signatures of registered Democrats; it’s almost like the Republicans are dishonest fascist assholes who then hypocritically complain about how long it takes to tally the votes.

But they are given the opportunity to cure their ballot. While tedious their process, no one will have a case for voter fraud with how their count is happening. So the orange monkey in a skirt will have no case to dispute her loss.

 

[HomerJS]

Well, by and large, people were not rabid haters of Biden, they just didn't "approve." That's because he's old, has an expiration date so to speak, but it does not necessarily translate to "I'm not going to vote for Democrats." That's something I have figured all along. I did not expect a red wave by virtue of the electorate (polled electorate) saying they didn't approve of Biden. I have suspected those numbers all along as being deceptive about what's really going on.

If Republicans take over the House it will be because of recent gerrymandering. Absent that Dems would have picked up 5-7 seats

 

[Bitek]

I remember in 2010 I "somewhat disapproved" of Obama and still voted D's. I was disappointed because I didn't think he had done enough. I have a feeling similar feelings are dogging Biden, people want more of his agenda not less.

Put me in that camp, especially in June 2022 when we were foot dragging on Ukraine, chips bill, climate bill and everything else.

I was annoyed AF that the window was closing and so much was left undone.


That being said, he pulled it out in July, Ukraine is kicking orc ass, China has backed off Rus, inflation is high but ebbing, and he's doing a good enough job.

Not great, still too many gaffes and WTF moments, but no way in fuckin hell does that mean I'm voting for maga nutjobs.

 

[Bitek]

Man, DeSantis is in a tough spot. Does he fire back at Trump and risk alienating the base? Or does he just take it and risk being called a beta?

You hate to see it.

Chris Cristie didn't hold up well, and he's a NJ loudmouth.

RDS will swing, connect on a few, just doubt he can do enough damage, but will be fun to watch the fatties bitch slap each other.

What's Jerry Springer doing these days? He should moderate the R debates.

 

[Zor Prime]

Man, DeSantis is in a tough spot. Does he fire back at Trump and risk alienating the base? Or does he just take it and risk being called a beta?

You hate to see it.

He already has the majority of Trump's "base." Trump's "base" is pissed at Trump for giving DeSantis grief.

I'm sure he's willing to address whatever Trump says if inquired. Otherwise the worst thing you can do to someone like Trump is to ignore him and keep your grind on.

 

[zinfamous]

Ted was right. Democrats actually governed and got shit done. Not waged stupid fucking culture wars on marginalized transgender kids.

apparently "doing whacked out lefty nut job liberal things" is the new republican euphemism for "doing work"

who knew?

 

[K1052]

CCM looks set to overtake Laxalt in NV but just have to wait for the counts to trickle in. Sisolak isn't going to make it but not the end of the world.

 

[cytg111]

He already has the majority of Trump's "base." Trump's "base" is pissed at Trump for giving DeSantis grief.

I'm sure he's willing to address whatever Trump says if inquired. Otherwise the worst thing you can do to someone like Trump is to ignore him and keep your grind on.

What % does Trump need of the base? To leech off to live comfortable? 5? Enough to torpedo any GQP candidate.

 

[zinfamous]

Yet another example how just one billionaire can affect too much of society. It's sick.

But one thing about Trump - he won't go down without fighting. Hopefully it's enough to really fuck up the GQP enough for the next 2 years.

oh, he'll trash the GQP out of spite. It's totally within his power, no matter what the GQP and their media want, to take more than half of their voting base with him. And he'll do it.

And they let him do it to them. Because they like it.

 

[zinfamous]

This will probably soon deserve it's own thread....but away we go:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1590844668702588928

uh, um. did Trump just claim to have sent in federal agents to stop the legitimate count of votes in a state election?

lolwtf. All the time, the FBI is the enemy of Trump and the enemy of the people (the same thing!), yet they are perfectly happy to let Trump order them to stop a free election...completely trashing everything that their so-called constitution is about?

Well, that's interesting.

 

[zinfamous]

From story at NY Times:

Tina Kotek wins Oregon governorship

Tina Kotek, a progressive Democrat who faced a pair of well-funded challengers, was elected to lead Oregon, according to The Associated Press.
Ms. Kotek’s victory, declared on Thursday, will make her and Maura Healey, the barrier-breaking attorney general who won the Massachusetts governor’s race this week, the first openly lesbian governors in American history.
Voters previously elected a gay man as governor (Jared Polis of Colorado, who was re-elected on Tuesday) and a bisexual woman (Kate Brown of Oregon), both of whom are also Democrats.
Ms. Kotek, a former Oregon State House speaker, defeated Christine Drazan, a Republican, and Betsy Johnson, a Democrat-turned-independent who campaigned as a centrist.

With a reputation in state government as an aggressive political operator, Ms. Kotek, 56, is known for twisting arms in the Democratic caucus to achieve her policy goals and, detractors said, occasionally breaking promises along the way.
She campaigned as a protector of Oregon’s liberal values, arguing that either of her opponents would threaten the state’s status as a haven for abortion rights and environmental protection while also saying that she alone could solve a yearslong homelessness crisis in Portland, the state’s largest city.

Very impressive for a state that was actually conceived and founded on the principles of White Supremacy and constitutionally established as a haven for the One Pure Race.

 

[zinfamous]

Chris Cristie didn't hold up well, and he's a NJ loudmouth.

RDS will swing, connect on a few, just doubt he can do enough damage, but will be fun to watch the fatties bitch slap each other.

What's Jerry Springer doing these days? He should moderate the R debates.

And here I was hoping that you suggested Jerry Springer run for Pres. ....which is not a bad idea, maybe. Dude was an extremely popular council member and mayor of Cincinnati, before his fall into Television and eventually "that format."

Maybe too much baggage and...age perhaps, but would be interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Springer

...oh shit, I didn't realize he was actually born in London, damn
....um, oh, says here "born in London Highgate underground in 1944, during the blitz." ....

HOLY FUCKING SHIT someone give this guy a presidency!

 

[Muse]

If Uncle Thomas' wife can try to overthrow the government then there's no way Justice Obama can't campaign for the Democrats.

It would be beautiful, even in his black robes! Mess with some people's minds!

Could he coax some of the righties on the court to go liberal?

 

[Muse]

Very impressive for a state that was actually conceived and founded on the principles of White Supremacy and constitutionally established as a haven for the One Pure Race.

I grew up close (mile or to from) Culver City (West Los Angeles), conceived, promoted, established, bankrolled by Harry Culver as a white only town. Was home to MGM Studios until Sony bought them, and is home to Sony now. Currently Culver City has the 3rd most racially diverse school district in California. It was founded on racism, no question, but AFAIK there's been no campaign to change the name to Chavez City, which is a shame.

 

[Muse]

Man, DeSantis is in a tough spot. Does he fire back at Trump and risk alienating the base? Or does he just take it and risk being called a beta?

You hate to see it.

Well, there should be a little elf on his shoulder whispering, "hey, man, you don't have to run for president." Actually, I've been wondering if that elf is there, I just don't hear him.

Edit: Just watched pathetic promo for this guy... you can see where he's coming from. The pitch is theocracy and that Ron was sent by God. I find this really offensive.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588539069243473924

The horror!

 

[Muse]

CCM looks set to overtake Laxalt in NV but just have to wait for the counts to trickle in. Sisolak isn't going to make it but not the end of the world.

I am really hoping that CCM will prevail over election denier Laxalt.