2019 dem primary debates

[soulcougher73]

Private insurance will never go away. The elitists of both parties will never allow themselves to be stuck with what's good enough for the peasant class.

The people really need to start voting out people like that. The people need to take back the power they have. Anyone who thinks they are above the people are "one and dones". Let them know we wont tolerate that. This needs to be a huge movement from both sides.

 

[vi edit]

The people really need to start voting out people like that. The people need to take back the power they have. Anyone who thinks they are above the people are "one and dones". Let them know we wont tolerate that. This needs to be a huge movement from both sides.

The only way any of this changes is red states sending some intellectually honest senators to Washington.

 

[K1052]

Yeah, I wish Biden had never thrown in. He sort of sucked all the oxygen out of the room by name recognition. Instead we got a past his prime, pearly white dentured husk of man. His voting records and "experience" are a liability vs this field and he's just distracting from the rest.

If he ever had a year it would have been 2016.

I'm basically down to Warren, Harris, and Mayor Pete at this point.

Somebody give Julian Castro a bunch of money to run against Cornyn in TX.

 

[DrunkenSano]

The people really need to start voting out people like that. The people need to take back the power they have. Anyone who thinks they are above the people are "one and dones". Let them know we wont tolerate that. This needs to be a huge movement from both sides.

That was pretty much what Bernie was calling for. A revolution is needed and it will take a nationwide, tsunami effort on all the people to get rid of big pharma, predatory health insurance companies, the elites. Until then, I don't see anything changing. People may talk the talk, but walking the walk in this case is extremely hard. Too many people in congress and the senate are having their pockets filled. I mean, a civil servant earning what, $100k a year, suddenly becoming multi-millionaires after getting voted in? C'mon man.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Who is this Marian Williamson? I have literally never heard of her.

Generic white female, model 03.

Dims still haven't learned "Trump bad. I'm good" is not a winning strategy.

It is to other Democrats, which was last nights audience. This was a primary debate, the goal was to get the hardline Democrat base to vote for them in an all Democrat ballot, because lets face it the vast majority of those that will vote in a primary are the party hardliners. To that end 'Trump bad, Me good' is probably a winning statement.

 

[sactoking]

This is a bit of a self-serving comment, but I think when the next polling out of Nevada arrives you'll see where the national sentiment it turning. Iowa and New Hampshire are way too white to mean much. Nevada has large hispanic, African-American and LGBTQ+ populations and recently became the first state with a female-majority legislature. Las Vegas is also a VERY heavy union area. The demographics here will give a much better indication of how those groups view the candidates.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Biden is just too old. His age will be a real detriment in the general election. By the time the election comes around he would be the oldest President we have ever elected. The nation as a whole is a bit reluctant to elect people that should have retired a decade ago, and Democrats in specific are not going to get excited about yet another old white dude. Every time he says 'Change!' we are going to wonder if he is talking about his Depends.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Also, was I just seeing and hearing things but did Biden last night say that the NRA wasn't the enemy, instead the gun manufacturers are? So is he supporting the NRA?

 

[soulcougher73]

The only way any of this changes is red states sending some intellectually honest senators to Washington.

I knew it was a pipe dream. Darn

 

[soulcougher73]

Also, was I just seeing and hearing things but did Biden last night say that the NRA wasn't the enemy, instead the gun manufacturers are? So is he supporting the NRA?

I think so based on his remarks at that moment. I wouldnt be surprised as an establishment Dem if he has taken donations from them.

 

[Bitek]

....
Somebody give Julian Castro a bunch of money to run against Cornyn in TX.

YES

He's not going to get nom. He might try to hang on hoping for a VP slot, but Ds have bigger needs in the Senate.

Beto fd up swinging for the fences. Hope Castro doesn't make the same mistake

 

[brandonbull]

2018 called and said well maybe not so fast on that judgement.

Good thing the '80's haven't called. I would hate to have some of that foreign policy.

 

[Bitek]

Harri-Booti 2020 FTW!

 

[brandonbull]

I wanted to say "free advice" but then you would have called me a communist.

Probably not much worse than a socialist. Maybe even a democratic socialist, but not a communist.

 

[brandonbull]

Private insurance will never go away. The elitists of both parties will never allow themselves to be stuck with what's good enough for the peasant class.

Or maybe putting millions of people out of work could be a sticking point as well.

 

[Ken g6]

I can't figure out health insurance. It seems like we can't just get rid of private insurance. But doctors need a single-payer system to be freed from all the paperwork multiple private insurances bring. It seems like things might be better if the insurance handled the billing, but I can't figure out how to do that without giving the insurance companies the same perverse incentive doctors have now, to suggest you have more doctor visits, tests, and operations. Unless private insurance is only there to let you skip the line - which creates another controversy.

 

[Moonbeam]

When asked what he would address if he could only address one issue, Pete said repairing our Democracy, because then all the other issues will follow much faster. That is the correct answer.

Sorry, but while you can claim it is the right answer and I can agree, it is vague. Democracy is dead. It functions for the rich, not average people. Other candidates address that fact more directly, and it is dangerous to do so. I give them more credit for addressing the money factor specifically.

 

[Indus]

Warren walks away the best of anyone in the last two nights.

I think Harris might have one upped her in both fans and haters based on 3 moments.

1. Trump's economy - stockmarkets make huge gains but the middle class doesn't

2. Who will pay for it? - Why wasn't this question raised with Trump tax cuts that we will all pay for the billionaires tax cuts?

3. Confront Joe Biden head on with the story of her being the little girl who would not have been where she is today with segregation.

 

[IronWing]

Or maybe putting millions of people out of work could be a sticking point as well.

They could find productive employment. The private health insurance industry is an anchor on the American economy.

 

[nakedfrog]

This is the type of pandering to radical fringe nutjobs that, thankfully, keeps these incompetent buffoons from becoming president.

Huh, pandering to radical fringe nutjobs like you got us our current incompetent buffoon.

 

[ImpulsE69]

3. Confront Joe Biden head on with the story of her being the little girl who would not have been where she is today with segregation.

The controversal but funny part about that is, she most likely wouldn't be where she is today if not for slavery either.

 

[zinfamous]

Absent some unforeseen implosion by a candidate, it looks like in June that it's already a 3 person race - Warren, Harris, Mayor Pete. None of the others seem like they have the chops to get the nom.

aye. I'd really like to see any combination of those 3 on a ticket, as well.

 

[soundforbjt]

The problem with Harris attacking Biden on the segregationists bit is she apparently didn't read the polls that showed it didn't matter to the majority of African-Americans, that may bite her in the ass if she continues. Mayor Pete has a problem with minorities, not sure about Warren's support by them.

 

[Bitek]

I can't figure out health insurance. It seems like we can't just get rid of private insurance. But doctors need a single-payer system to be freed from all the paperwork multiple private insurances bring. It seems like things might be better if the insurance handled the billing, but I can't figure out how to do that without giving the insurance companies the same perverse incentive doctors have now, to suggest you have more doctor visits, tests, and operations. Unless private insurance is only there to let you skip the line - which creates another controversy.

In other socialized medicine countries like the UK, private insurance still exists as an optional supplement to the NHS coverage for those wanting additional coverage or benefit.

Eg. There are copays and limitations on coverage, medicines in the base coverage everyone gets. If you want more, you are free to buy it.

Bernie and the others promising to ban insurance are taking a really radical position.

We should be aiming for a reasonable, ethical but efficient and affordable national system that meets the needs of most people. That will require some limits and copays.

It won't be what everyone will want, so those with means/needs should be able to get what they are willing to pay for.

 

[Bitek]

Sorry, but while you can claim it is the right answer and I can agree, it is vague. Democracy is dead. It functions for the rich, not average people. Other candidates address that fact more directly, and it is dangerous to do so. I give them more credit for addressing the money factor specifically.

A quibble I have with this philosophy is that our voter participation is low, especially in midterms @40%.

I think Obama was right when he said "don't whine, vote."

Voters themselves have some responsibility to educate themselves, then bother themselves to spend a couple hours every couple years to show up at the polls.

The power of the people can absolutely defeat the elite and their money if they bothered to wield the power they have now.

Get the right people in office, then we can get new laws/judges to push back the corruption that's ruining the system.