2017 Prius Prime launches at $27,100

[desura]

Ford C-Max has the turning radius of a semi.

Uh, no. It has a very tight turning circle.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Uh, no. It has a very tight turning circle.

Well, I guess if you consider the ES350 to have a "very tight" turning circle then yes the C-Max has a very tight turning circle of 38 feet.

I don't know where you got the idea the C-Max has a small turning radius when it's one of the most common complaints about it.

 

[desura]

Well, I guess if you consider the ES350 to have a "very tight" turning circle then yes the C-Max has a very tight turning circle of 38 feet.

I don't know where you got the idea the C-Max has a small turning radius when it's one of the most common complaints about it.

All right, dude. Whatever.

 

[gus6464]

Uh, no. It has a very tight turning circle.

Have you driven a C-Max? I test drove one 30 minutes before I bought a Prius and the thing couldn't make a u-turn to a normal size 2-lane road. Every single person who drives one complains about the turning radius.

 

[desura]

Have you driven a C-Max? I test drove one 30 minutes before I bought a Prius and the thing couldn't make a u-turn to a normal size 2-lane road. Every single person who drives one complains about the turning radius.

Uh, I own one and drive it everyday. I'm pretty happy with the turn radius and handling.

It is no worse than my old Honda Accord and it is better than my old Subaru Outback.

 

[gus6464]

Uh, I own one and drive it everyday. I'm pretty happy with the turn radius and handling.

It is no worse than my old Honda Accord and it is better than my old Subaru Outback.

The Honda Accord is 2ft longer...

 

[desura]

The Honda Accord is 2ft longer...

I've literally never seen anyone complain about the turn radius of this car. Or make such a big deal out of it.

 

[gus6464]

I've literally never seen anyone complain about the turn radius of this car. Or make such a big deal out of it.

http://bfy.tw/822i

Hell the very own c-max forum has threads upon threads of it.

 

[Thump553]

I looked hard at the C-Max a year ago when we replaced our other car. A bit bigger than what I need, pricer and one thing that really burnt me was a saw a number of reports online that not had Ford lied originally about their MPG but that the dash display was rigged to overstate MPG. Advertising hype is one thing but I want my gauges to be accurate.

When it comes time to make the buy decision I'll take another look at the C-Max but will be starting at or near the bottom of the heap.

 

[Ns1]

Uh, I own one and drive it everyday. I'm pretty happy with the turn radius and handling.

It is no worse than my old Honda Accord and it is better than my old Subaru Outback.

if only there were an easy way to research this....oh yes:

2016 Ford C-Max Hybrid/Turning radius
19.19′

2017 Honda Accord/Turning radius
18.8 to 19.8′

2017 Subaru Outback/Turning radius
18.05′

2017 Toyota Prius/Turning radius
16.75 to 17.7′

 

[tweakmonkey]

Another car with a famously terrible turning radius:
Fiat 500 Abarth
18.8'

And just for fun, if you ever get a chance to drive one of these they're a riot:

2013 Toyota IQ turning radius
13'

2016 Smart ForTwo turning radius
11.4'

I remember driving a Suburban in 2001. Checked it out, 21.5-22 feet

 

[Thump553]

I'm suspicious of posted turning radii. Google reports the Mini Cooper at 17.7 to 18.1, more than my Prius which can't be correct.. When I test drove a Mini I thought it was the most fun to drive since a go-kart and did a complete 360 turn in two lanes,

 

[Ns1]

I'm suspicious of posted turning radii. Google reports the Mini Cooper at 17.7 to 18.1, more than my Prius which can't be correct.. When I test drove a Mini I thought it was the most fun to drive since a go-kart and did a complete 360 turn in two lanes,

car and driver googling says...

What you notice first about driving the Mini is that its electrohydraulic speed-sensitive steering is heavy. It's also very quick. You don't often find those traits in the same bed. It'll cause you to hit apexes too early for the first few days, and a strong sneeze on the freeway can land you in a new lane. Tracking is otherwise good for a car with a 97.1-inch wheelbase. Not so the turning circle, which exceeds a Honda CR-V's. As if to match the steering, the clutch and shift linkages are also relatively high-effort devices. The accelerator pedal is adequately positioned for heel-and-toeing, but it emits a nasty metal-to-metal clack every time it meets the fire wall.

I'm also surprised.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

On the list of my auto purchase priorities the turning circle is near the bottom. I don't think I have ever gone on a test drive and thought to myself "damn this car couldn't turn around in a football field".

 

[gus6464]

On the list of my auto purchase priorities the turning circle is near the bottom. I don't think I have ever gone on a test drive and thought to myself "damn this car couldn't turn around in a football field".

U-turns are very common in SoCal. If I can't do a complete u-turn on a road with 2 lanes with a small car then there is a problem. The C-Max couldn't do this.

 

[ChronoReverse]

Back to the Prime, it seems like some reviewers are finding that Toyota understated the range of EV mode.

This one particularly stands out:

As mentioned earlier, Toyota claims a range of 35 kilometres, which seems like a gross miscalculation. Either that, or the company wanted to be conservative, because we easily travelled 49.6 kilometres in EV mode. Had my driving partner and I known the road better and exploited the various modes more effectively, we likely could have covered 56 kilometres before depleting the battery.

 

[Yuriman]

For what it's worth, I have a friend who regularly commutes in a 2012 Volt, which is rated for 35 miles EV. His commute is 48 miles, and he usually has an estimated "12 miles" range left when he parks it. It really depends on how you drive it.

 

[Thump553]

car and driver googling says...



I'm also surprised.

Thanks for the perfect explanation of the go-kart feel.

 

[Kaido]

Back to the Prime, it seems like some reviewers are finding that Toyota understated the range of EV mode.

This one particularly stands out:

That's pretty good news. I'm considering leasing either a Volt or a Prime for my next car. My daily commute is about 50 miles round-trip.