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2016 Republican/Democrat Super Tuesday

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Doc Savage Fan said:
I didn't say that he or she's just as bad as the other....but nice try. Apparently there's a fine line in your mind that Hillary hasn't crossed yet...even though she has a long history of crass, insulting & offensive behavior. Your rationalization skills are amazing.
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Maybe it was a variant on the same drizzling bullshit- "Both sides do it".

Perhaps you can find examples of Hillary that can compare to trump's comments about illegal immigrants, killing terrorists' families or his most recent pretense of not knowing who David Duke is...

Not to mention being the Birther in Chief.

Go ahead- give it your best shot but you probably want to google "trump's most outrageous" beforehand.
 
Fern said:
I don't think Rubio is going to drop out. I think the Repub establishment will push to keep him in unless they decide to accept Trump (which at this point isn't happening).

I keep seeing Washington insider types on TV claim how strong and deep the hatred of Cruz is among the Repub establishment. IIRC, it was last night on Anderson Cooper's show they were adamant that there's a better chance the establishment would accept Trump over Cruz.

The Repubs are freaking. I'm hearing 2 avenues to defeat Trump:

1. Slim down the number of candidates against Trump so the supposed 65% that oppose Trump can coalesce around someone else.

2. Keep everybody in to deny Trump a majority and go with one the brokered convention plans.

IDK which they should do or might do, but seems to me they better figure it out pretty damn quick. And if they go for option #2 they better be careful because they may end up destroying what they're trying to save (Repub Party).

Fern
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At this point I think they will choose option 2. I also think that they do not care if they lose to hillary. They are working to insure that Trump is not not nominated even if it means Hillary wins.

At least a Hillary win means they have someone in the pocket. The menu prices might be more expensive at club Hillary foundation.
 
Trump supporters remind me of Religious folks. Religious texts advocate for some good ideas along with some absolutely horrible ideas like torturing people. Religious folks pick and choose which to believe in order to swallow the whole fiasco.

Trump is exactly the same. He advocates for some good ideas along with some absolutely horrible ones. Like committing war crimes to fight terrorism for example. Trump supporters similarly pick and choose which ideas they support and which they choose to forget to swallow the whole fiasco.

Looking at it from the sidelines it's positively hilarious and tragic how little people know themselves.

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loki8481 said:
looks like 538 was on the money for everything except Cruz taking Oklahoma.

from this point out, Sanders would need to win every state with +59% of the vote in order to win the nomination.

new polls out recently show Clinton ahead in Florida, Michigan, Ohio, and all the Southern states, however.
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There are 4051 pledged delegates. Hillary currently has 596 and Bernie currently has 399. So there are 3056 remaining. To exceed 50% (2026 or higher) Bernie would need to win 1627 delegates, or about 53% of the remainder.

This isn't factoring in super delegates. It's highly possible that many or even most will vote in alignment with whoever has the majority of pledged delegates. We don't really know. I'm guessing it would depend a lot on just how close the two are.

Anyway, even if he really needed 59+% of the remaining delegates it'd be highly misleading to say he needs that in every state. Better performing states will make up for poorer performing ones. Also doesn't factor the possibility of non-proportional delegate distribution when a candidate makes < 15% of the vote like Hillary did in Vermont.
 
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Anyone have any idea where the 6.61% of non-Hillary/Bernie Oklahoma voters went? I can't find any information on this. It's a much bigger discrepancy than with any other state (Arkansas is next at 4%)
 
eskimospy said:
Yes, online polling is BS. This is a well established fact. Rasmussen also has a history of Republican bias:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

Regardless, don't you think it's funny that your own poll that you tried to use to show Trump's strength showed him losing to Clinton?
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Linking to 538 is hilarious when Drudge has been wrong about Trump from the beginning. Drudge>538.
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/29/thi...online_vote_keeps_demonstrating_trump_fervor/
 
Jhhnn said:
Maybe it was a variant on the same drizzling bullshit- "Both sides do it".

Perhaps you can find examples of Hillary that can compare to trump's comments about illegal immigrants, killing terrorists' families or his most recent pretense of not knowing who David Duke is...

Not to mention being the Birther in Chief.

Go ahead- give it your best shot but you probably want to google "trump's most outrageous" beforehand.
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Is it really that hard for you to understand what I'm saying? My comment was directed at you and where you have personally chosen to draw the line of what you consider to be socially/morally acceptable/unacceptable. I see you as a man flinging poo from the high ground of moral relativism without any care of the stench coming from his hand and the pile of shit he stands upon which he defends so fervently. Hillary has a solid track record of crass, insulting & offensive behavior as well...but by all means comfort yourself in your belief that Trump is much worse....which he may well be within the nuance of such things. But that leaves us with the question of, just how much better is Hillary? Enough to not care in the slightest? And how much worse is Trump? Enough to justify all your disgust for him? I'm sure that the difference must be very clear to you....I just see two similar shades of gray.
 
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disappoint said:
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Trump is exactly the same. He advocates for some good ideas along with some absolutely horrible ones. Like committing war crimes to fight terrorism for example. Trump supporters similarly pick and choose which ideas they support and which they choose to forget to swallow the whole fiasco.
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It depends on who you ask and what is defined as "torture". Waterboarding was perfectly acceptable during the non-PC days of "W" and now it's not. lol. The majority of democrats are a bunch of pussified, fat americans who think terrorists should be given three square meals a day with a TV and room service. Luckily trump is here to waterboard and bomb the shit out of them.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
Is it really that hard for you to understand what I'm saying? My comment was directed at you and where you have personally chosen to draw the line of what you consider to be socially/morally acceptable/unacceptable. I see you as a man flinging poo from the high ground of moral relativism without any care of the stench coming from his hand and the pile of shit he stands upon which he defends so fervently. Hillary has a solid track record of crass, insulting & offensive behavior as well...but by all means comfort yourself in your belief that Trump is much worse....which he may well be within the nuance of such things. But that leaves us with the question of, just how much better is Hillary? Enough to not care in the slightest? And how much worse is Trump? Enough to justify all your disgust for him? I'm sure that the difference must be very clear to you....I just see two similar shades of gray.
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And what he is saying that you don't seem to understand is that he thinks your premise is bullshit! Considering your history of lying, being duped, and misreading of your own sources, I'd have to agree with him.
That being said, he is perfectly willing to accept your premise so long as you can provide such examples. So put up or shut up.
 
SP33Demon said:
It depends on who you ask and what is defined as "torture". Waterboarding was perfectly acceptable during the non-PC days of "W" and now it's not. lol. The majority of democrats are a bunch of pussified, fat americans who think terrorists should be given three square meals a day with a TV and room service. Luckily trump is here to waterboard and bomb the shit out of them.
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Water boarding has never been acceptable you stupid twat! Hell! Our own government has ruled against its use before!

Your stupidity continues to amaze me!
 
SP33Demon said:
It depends on who you ask and what is defined as "torture". Waterboarding was perfectly acceptable during the non-PC days of "W" and now it's not. lol. The majority of democrats are a bunch of pussified, fat americans who think terrorists should be given three square meals a day with a TV and room service. Luckily trump is here to waterboard and bomb the shit out of them.
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I was talking about Donald Trump saying he wants to go after the families of terrorists instead of the terrorists themselves.
 
SP33Demon said:
It depends on who you ask and what is defined as "torture". Waterboarding was perfectly acceptable during the non-PC days of "W" and now it's not. lol. The majority of democrats are a bunch of pussified, fat americans who think terrorists should be given three square meals a day with a TV and room service. Luckily trump is here to waterboard and bomb the shit out of them.
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Waterboarding wasn't legal under Geneva convention during Bush's presidency. You also forget to mention that Bush himself banned it during his second term. Obama re'upped that ban. Its also been proven time and time again torture is the least effective means of gathering information from someone.
 
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Hugo Drax said:
At this point I think they will choose option 2. I also think that they do not care if they lose to hillary. They are working to insure that Trump is not not nominated even if it means Hillary wins.

At least a Hillary win means they have someone in the pocket. The menu prices might be more expensive at club Hillary foundation.
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If Clinton wins they can contain her from doing anything because they have the House and Senate. That would set them up to knock her off in 2020. If Trump wins the Republican won't have true control of the White House until 2024, or possibly longer.

IMO, Trump and Clinton would both be 1 term Presidents that will get little if anything accomplished.
 
ivwshane said:
And what he is saying that you don't seem to understand is that he thinks your premise is bullshit! Considering your history of lying, being duped, and misreading of your own sources, I'd have to agree with him.
That being said, he is perfectly willing to accept your premise so long as you can provide such examples. So put up or shut up.
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Thank you.
 
This message is hidden because ivwshane is on your ignore list.

You know this...but you persist. Look, I have less than zero respect for you as a human being...so fuck off.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
So you're going to let ivwshane speak for you...just how fitting is that?
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There's little point in saying the same thing over again, but now I'll say it a third time- In order to claim that Hillary says crass, insulting & offensive things you must provide examples. When challenged to do so, you merely dodge.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
This message is hidden because ivwshane is on your ignore list.

You know this...but you persist. Look, I have less than zero respect for you as a human being...so fuck off.
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Your message is not hidden so perhaps it's you who should fuck off. Your lack of respect for me is a badge of honor. If you can't handle being called out on your lies and stupidity then perhaps you should stop lying and saying stupid shit!
Nah! It's easier just to ignore the truth and stick your fingers in your ears like a little bitch.
 
Jhhnn said:
There's little point in saying the same thing over again, but now I'll say it a third time- In order to claim that Hillary says crass, insulting & offensive things you must provide examples. When challenged to do so, you merely dodge.
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How about you talk to me directly instead of through proxies...especially such a pathetic clueless idiot as ivwshane? Or is that expecting too much from you?
 
Trump WILL be your next president.

Bold move risking like 2 or 3 supreme court justices on anti dark skin guy.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
How about you talk to me directly instead of through proxies...especially such a pathetic clueless idiot as ivwshane? Or is that expecting too much from you?
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You and SP33Demon should get a room someplace, you two deserve each other 🙂

When did just agreeing with someone and not remarking further become a proxy move ?

It's just avoiding repetition.
 
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