2015 NFL draft and offseason thread: How will the Browns screw up this year?

[Kelvrick]

We don't know if this was his agent acting on his own, or if AP told his agent to go confront Vikings personnel. I find it hard to believe AP would do such a thing, but who knows. The article I read said the argument got heated and the agent lead into it with "AP will never play in a Vikings uniform again." AP has already publicly stated he is unhappy with how the Vikings handled it, from an inside perspective (which is something we will never see). The Vikings have stated they want to keep AP (because, he is likely the best RB in football right now).




I think Lynch likely has some anxiety issues and an "IDGAF" attitude to go with it. I mean, look at how Ricky Williams acted. Lynch doesn't want to have to go through all the same bullshit Q and A every player does, because it is all bullshit. They can't answer questions like they would normally answer. They are canned garbage that doesn't mean anything. Of course, he is going to say opponent is a tough defense and blah blah bullshit. He can't say "fuck those guys, they are pussies, and I am going to beast mode up their loose buttholes".

Lynch seemed to have a fine time talking when he wasp laying Mortal Kombat with Conan and Gronk. I agree it is a combination of not wanting to give bullshit answers while he wastes his time.

Regarding AP, I'm a complete outsider and probably skimmed a few articles about AP, but to me, it seemed like the Vikings played hot potato with him. They switched sides so quickly between backing him until due process and throwing him under the bus that I would think any player would have motivation issues playing for them. They're probably better off without him anyway, before he pulls a Chris Johnson after signing the big contract with the titans.

I was reminded of this thread when I saw this article.
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/2015_Logos.html

Seems the factory of sadness is still going strong.

 

[Jimzz]

Reggie Bush Released by Lions
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Does not save them much, still have to pay him 3.5M+.

 

[smackababy]

Reggie Bush Released by Lions
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

Does not save them much, still have to pay him 3.5M+.

Jacoby Jones also cut from the Ravens.

AJ Hawk cut from the Packers.

Hillis cut from Giants.

Lots of cuts!

 

[Jimzz]

Jacoby Jones also cut from the Ravens.

AJ Hawk cut from the Packers.

Hillis cut from Giants.

Lots of cuts!

Damm and AJ Hawk bent over backwards to cut his paycheck to help the team.
And people wonder why players hold out for more money.

Jacoby Jones makes sense. His productivity has been down the last couple years. Many can put up similar numbers and require less money.

 

[smackababy]

Damm and AJ Hawk bent over backwards to cut his paycheck to help the team.
And people wonder why players hold out for more money.

Jacoby Jones makes sense. His productivity has been down the last couple years. Many can put up similar numbers and require less money.

I think Jones will get picked up somewhere as a return guy only, which will be for a lot less than the Ravens were going to have to pay him.

AJ Hawk will also likely get picked up. I think he was just going to be taking up too much cap space. Let's not cry about him taking a pay cut. He went from like the last 2 years at $17 million to $10 million. He wasn't exactly being paid poorly for his services.

 

[lupi]

peterson won his lawsuit, reinstated by the nfl.

 

[Imported]

peterson won his lawsuit, reinstated by the nfl.

Can he be suspended now? Since he got paid previously?

 

[Jimzz]

peterson won his lawsuit, reinstated by the nfl.

He's not reinstated, not yet. The court found the arbiter ruled incorrectly based on the guidelines and parameters, it has been kicked back to the arbiter but with much more narrow parameters for decision.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...om&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

 

[smackababy]

Can he be suspended now? Since he got paid previously?

He was already suspended. He was on the commissioner's list for like 10 games, and then suspended the rest of the season.

The NFL continues to fuck itself with all this rule garbage and trying to back date punishments.


I see them reinstating him immediately. Unlike Ray Rice, this wasn't big news and there was no video. Nobody gives a shit at this point.

Also, from his father's tweets, it looks like AP is wanting the Vikings to pay him what they 'owe' him from the 2014 season or he will refuse to play.

 

[lupi]

Can he be suspended now? Since he got paid previously?

the nfl wanted to suspend him going forward based on the new rule, wasn't going to be any effect on what he got for last year.

 

[Jadow]

If I were drafting in the top 10 this year, esp at 1 or 2, I would try like heck to trade down.

Winston looked good at the combine, but that guy just can not be the face of your team. Bad character person.

And Mariotta is a system QB.

 

[Imported]

He was already suspended. He was on the commissioner's list for like 10 games, and then suspended the rest of the season.

The NFL continues to fuck itself with all this rule garbage and trying to back date punishments.


I see them reinstating him immediately. Unlike Ray Rice, this wasn't big news and there was no video. Nobody gives a shit at this point.

Also, from his father's tweets, it looks like AP is wanting the Vikings to pay him what they 'owe' him from the 2014 season or he will refuse to play.

I don't understand any of these punishments anymore. The commissioner's list is stupid. You're either suspended without pay or the team is simply not playing you and you get paid IMO.

I'm still bitter on the hammer that was dropped on Aldon. Goes to rehab and still gets suspended 9 games for a DUI. His airport incident and guns charges were BS. It's really jaded my opinion of what appropriate punishment should be.

 

[Fern]

If I were drafting in the top 10 this year, esp at 1 or 2, I would try like heck to trade down.

Winston looked good at the combine, but that guy just can not be the face of your team. Bad character person.

And Mariotta is a system QB.

Nah. A lot of untruths and exaggerations in media wrt him. I fully expect Tampa to take him at #1. And I bet if Tampa wanted to trade they could. From what I'm hearing a couple of other teams would like to have Winston.

I'm not as down on MM as many others. I thought he did pretty well with his drops at the combine. Though IDK how good he is at the whiteboard. And as far as a system goes I bet Kelly (Eagles) would be happy to take MM if he had the 1st or second draft pick.

Fern

 

[manimal]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ead-2015-draft-class-top-mislabeled-prospects

great article about the ohio state prospects. I mentioned that Micheal Bennett reminded me of Sheldon Richardson in college and he mentioned the same. What I found interesting was my biggest problem with Randy Gregory. I thought he looked lazy in games and never tried anything other than his first power move. Turns out thats what he was being coached to do and maintain contain. Shame on me for being a noob ><


Adrian Peterson is asking for the remainder of his roster bonuses to paid for last year as well as his full salary next year.This guy.....



So many cuts and some interesting people becoming available for depth. Dwaine Bowe should be cut soon as his numbers dont justify his price though at 3 million a year he would be a pretty nice number 2 or 3.


Baltimore has begun their big purge. 49ers are next.

 

[Imported]

Yup.. expecting Brooks, Dawson, Dahl and maybe Vernon being cut. Expect Stevie to redo his contract or be cut and some restructuring of Willis' contract.

Still pretty sure Iupati, Crabtree and one of Cox/Culliver are walking.

 

[lupi]

nfl appealed the peterson ruling and somehow put him back on the exempt list. I thought to be on that list required mutual agreement between the player and the league?

 

[smackababy]

Steven Jackson has been cut. Not sure I like that one, honestly.

And, I believe, a player can be put on the exemption list at any time, so long as the commissioner agrees with it and the team. Nobody cares what the player has to say about it (because, who the fuck would agree to that?). AP is done with the Vikings for sure now, if they had anything to do with this.

 

[lupi]

Steven Jackson has been cut. Not sure I like that one, honestly.

And, I believe, a player can be put on the exemption list at any time, so long as the commissioner agrees with it and the team. Nobody cares what the player has to say about it (because, who the fuck would agree to that?). AP is done with the Vikings for sure now, if they had anything to do with this.

Here's a clip from before and I recall hearing the same thing


Players must consent before being placed on the list, allowing the NFL Players Association to call Peterson's placement a "voluntary leave with pay."

 

[glenn1]

Steven Jackson has been cut. Not sure I like that one, honestly.

And, I believe, a player can be put on the exemption list at any time, so long as the commissioner agrees with it and the team. Nobody cares what the player has to say about it (because, who the fuck would agree to that?). AP is done with the Vikings for sure now, if they had anything to do with this.

Hope SJax doesn't retire, the man is a freaking tank and I'll miss him doing things like this:

 

[manimal]

Hope SJax doesn't retire, the man is a freaking tank and I'll miss him doing things like this:

sadly hes just hit that wall. I bet he could pull off a 1k yard season in dallas and wouldnt he be a nice backup at close to league minimum? How badly does he want to play? Some guys like Urlacher just cant justify the risk of injury for so little.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Also, from his father's tweets, it looks like AP is wanting the Vikings to pay him what they 'owe' him from the 2014 season or he will refuse to play.

LOL, that's freaking hilarious. Sue to be allowed to play and then threaten to not play which is what the Vikings want. I need to buy my weed where AP's father shops.

 

[lupi]

I'm sure he'll be signed next season, but it will be as a third stringer situational back. He's had enough injuries that no team is going to slot him much higher.

 

[Kelvrick]

I'm sure he'll be signed next season, but it will be as a third stringer situational back. He's had enough injuries that no team is going to slot him much higher.

Please name the teams with 2 rbs that you would place in front of him. Almost everyone was expecting a giant season out of him again this year and him not playing isn't due to injury. I think most teams would love to have him, if not his potential salary (depending on how this all works out, I don't know). But then I'm just a random guy on the internet who plays fantasy football who read that he was projected as the top RB for 2014 going into the season.

 

[glenn1]

Please name the teams with 2 rbs that you would place in front of him. Almost everyone was expecting a giant season out of him again this year and him not playing isn't due to injury. I think most teams would love to have him, if not his potential salary (depending on how this all works out, I don't know). But then I'm just a random guy on the internet who plays fantasy football who read that he was projected as the top RB for 2014 going into the season.

I really like SJax and think he's been the best player the Rams have rostered since the GSOT days, but I don't think even his mama would have drafted him as the RB1 in fantasy football last year. IIRC he hasn't ever been the preseason consensus #1 and hasn't been in the top 5 for years. Hell, the coming 2015 season is the first time in a while where the fantasy football "gurus" actually have TRich ranked lower than SJax. If Vegas bookies had a prop bet available, I can bet the odds for TR having a 1K rushing season next year will be a much higher longshot than the same bet for SJ. For TR you'd probably be in "Buster Douglas beats Mike Tyson" tier.

 

[Genx87]

ya thats his name! lol


Really soft hands in his drills and moved really well though he wasnt very fast.


Just watched the Jameis Winston interview and the kid just seems young and is trying really hard. He comes off overly confident but hes a young kid figuring it out. Lovie would be a good coach I think I said that a few times earlier this year. If Lovie could get Fat Lance Briggs into a man he can do that for Jameis.


Mariotta could drop with all these Defensive players ascending and these tackles moving up and up. Williams may be picked ahead of him as could Fowler and Shelton. Those guys have such upside that teams dont want to risk their reputations on a qb thats not gonna play for two years.


I think he goes to jets

Is is not a burner. But he manages to find open space often. Has a real feel for getting open. And is a hard worker. Be interesting to see if he can continue to grow in the NFL.