2015-2016 TV Death Watch

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Xonim

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Jul 13, 2011
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lol the fuck? They may or may not renew Castle for another season, but if they do Beckett's out

https://deadline.com/2016/04/castle-stana-katic-exit-season-9-tamala-jones-out-1201739022/

This show is firmly into the "please just end it already" territory. Every 3rd or 4th episode is decent, but it's time to be done. Of course, I can't stop watching, because now I'm invested.

I hope they just end it this season, and hopefully it doesn't take long for Nathan Fillion to sign on to something else awesome :biggrin:
 

cronos

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Nov 7, 2001
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This show is firmly into the "please just end it already" territory. Every 3rd or 4th episode is decent, but it's time to be done. Of course, I can't stop watching, because now I'm invested.

I hope they just end it this season, and hopefully it doesn't take long for Nathan Fillion to sign on to something else awesome :biggrin:

Yeah sometimes I don't understand why series try so hard to hang on for so many seasons. I can see if they want to get syndication deal (100 episodes is the cutoff, I think?), but this is way past that and they still want to go on. If you have a popular show, why not just plan to wrap it up with a nice finale after 5, maybe 6 seasons, before you ran out of ideas and even the fans are pretty sick of it in the end. Then when you did finally wrap it up, the quality had gone way down, and everyone complains because they hate how the show ended. It's lose lose.

And I'm talking about 'regular' series, unlike the CSI/NCIS/Law and Order type who are somehow self sustaining and would top the viewers rating without seemingly even doing anything and just keep going and going and going until they die of old age.

lol.. reboot time.
wonder why Becket's leaving?

and that redhead daughter is CUTE!

Apparently Stana Katic had a one-year extension last year (if I recall correctly, after a long negotiation), and they decided not to even offer her a contract extension this time. Simply put, she was fired.

About the daughter, 'cute' would not be the word I use to describe her :colbert:

Well, she used to be 'cute', but not for a while now :cool:
 

JEDI

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Sep 25, 2001
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About the daughter, 'cute' would not be the word I use to describe her :colbert:

Well, she used to be 'cute', but not for a while now :cool:
woah.. did she have a kid?

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Xonim

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Yeah sometimes I don't understand why series try so hard to hang on for so many seasons. I can see if they want to get syndication deal (100 episodes is the cutoff, I think?), but this is way past that and they still want to go on. If you have a popular show, why not just plan to wrap it up with a nice finale after 5, maybe 6 seasons, before you ran out of ideas and even the fans are pretty sick of it in the end. Then when you did finally wrap it up, the quality had gone way down, and everyone complains because they hate how the show ended. It's lose lose.

Here's the thing about Castle though ... it's suffering from the same problem as HIMYM had. The people that watched through the end only watched because they wanted to know the ending. Any episode that didn't directly address the ending was viewed as a waste of time -- at least, by me and everyone I know that watched the show. In HIMYM, they waited FOREVER to introduce the mother, and it was annoying because the middle episodes just seemed like they were dragging it out for the sake of dragging it out, and the story wasn't progressing. IMO, most episodes of HIMYM after S5-S6 were pretty awful. The same jokes, stories nobody cared about, etc. Castle is similar, but to me it's a little different. The filler episodes aren't entirely terrible (except for the recent singing one), it's just that we want some story progression. We know the writers are capable of good standalone episodes - any episode involving the paranormal, comic book conventions, the furries, or the like is going to be entertaining, and they usually have nothing to do with Beckett's mom.

The problem is, the whole Beckett's mom thing has been drug out to season 8 ... after being introduced in season 1. There's been at least two times when the whole thing could have just been wrapped up and left alone
(with Capt Montgomery's death, and when the senator guy went to jail)
... and the show EASILY could have transitioned to fun standalone episodes with the quirky characters we all know and love. I would have loved for that to happen. Instead, the writers have chosen to beat a dead horse for the last few seasons, introducing some ridiculous master plan that is barely mentioned once or twice a month, is never resolved, and all supposedly ties back to Beckett's mom somehow. Then 2-3 filler episodes happen, then there's a bye week or two or three, then something about Locksat, rinse and repeat.

I guess it's working, because I'm still watching.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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woah.. did she have a kid?

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Holy shit. Guess I haven't watched in a while.

deadline dropped this nugget:

Katic and fellow Castle original cast member Tamala Jones were told late last week that they would not be returning for budgetary reasons as the long-running show is eying a shorter Season 9 order at a reduced license fee. The Fillion-Katic on-set relationship has been a difficult one, with multiple sources indicating that there had been friction between the two for years. I hear last season, the leads only filmed together two days a week per a clause Fillion had requested in his contract.
 
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Carson Dyle

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Has anyone watched HAPPYish? Was on Showtime last year, cancelled after one season of ten episodes. I saw it mentioned somewhere, so I've watched the first three so far. Weird, dark, angry comedy. But it's entertaining, and I love the actors.

I think it was just a bit too edgy, with maybe not enough comedy balance.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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deadline dropped this nugget:

I wonder if that coincides with the two character's on-screen romance starting up. Prior to that, there was flirting and such, but the past few season have had plenty of bed scenes and such.
 

Perknose

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Has anyone watched HAPPYish? Was on Showtime last year, cancelled after one season of ten episodes. I saw it mentioned somewhere, so I've watched the first three so far. Weird, dark, angry comedy. But it's entertaining, and I love the actors.

I think it was just a bit too edgy, with maybe not enough comedy balance.

Yeah it was more dark, angry and edgy than most "sitcoms." I really liked it.

Are we dating?

Steve Jobs was a genius!

Deeply caring iPad users.

Jesus had a low joy ceiling.

Gentleman, no brand was as powerful as the Nazi brand. :colbert:
 

Charmonium

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For every episode, I was on the fence about Happyish. I loved the wife and her character's humor. The husband had his moments but a lot of things seemed kind of cheap and slapstickish. The Keebler elves episodes come to mind here. That's not to say that some of those scenes weren't funny. They were. But it was way too easy to use the personalities that they did. It was the absolute opposite of the personalities you would assume they'd have. So all they really did was take one cliche and modify it by going to the opposite extreme. Still funny but also disappointing.
 

dr150

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Sep 18, 2003
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deadline dropped this nugget:
Katic and fellow Castle original cast member Tamala Jones were told late last week that they would not be returning for budgetary reasons as the long-running show is eying a shorter Season 9 order at a reduced license fee. The Fillion-Katic on-set relationship has been a difficult one, with multiple sources indicating that there had been friction between the two for years. I hear last season, the leads only filmed together two days a week per a clause Fillion had requested in his contract.

So who's the asshole here? Fillion or Katic?

To me it sounds like they slept with each other, broke up, and now hate each other.

Don't shit where you eat. Actors should know better.
 

Imp

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So who's the asshole here? Fillion or Katic?

To me it sounds like they slept with each other, broke up, and now hate each other.

Don't shit where you eat. Actors should know better.

You'd think so but they all seem to do it. Pick a celeb and you'll probably find that they have/had a relationship with a co-star.

Guessing the rationalize it by assuming they'll never see one another again once the movie shoot is over.
 

Perknose

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For every episode, I was on the fence about Happyish. I loved the wife and her character's humor. The husband had his moments but a lot of things seemed kind of cheap and slapstickish. The Keebler elves episodes come to mind here. That's not to say that some of those scenes weren't funny. They were. But it was way too easy to use the personalities that they did. It was the absolute opposite of the personalities you would assume they'd have. So all they really did was take one cliche and modify it by going to the opposite extreme. Still funny but also disappointing.

Cheap and slapstickish? This series was noted for being anything but. The Keebler elves thing was more driving home a point about egotistic assholes ruining a perfectly good meme with their "artistic vision" for a fucking commercial for cookies: We have an opportunity to do something here that really resonates. The last lines in this clip are pure comedy gold.

Ah, yeah, now I see what you were talking about, his feverish Keebler Elf dreams.


Ok.

But the rolling credits changed each week and always delivered! :p
 

Hugh Jass

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Nov 17, 2011
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Why did I think Wayward Pines had been canceled after one season?

Just saw a promo stating that season 2 starts May 25th 2016.
 

Newbian

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Why did I think Wayward Pines had been canceled after one season?

Just saw a promo stating that season 2 starts May 25th 2016.

They ended the previous season with a closure so you figured it was over and it looks like it's a entire new story line so in a way it's not really the same show.
 

Perknose

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They ended the previous season with a closure so you figured it was over and it looks like it's a entire new story line so in a way it's not really the same show.

That show was stupid beyond belief.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Hunt for the Elfstones will continue, Shannara granted a second season.
 

ImpulsE69

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Cheap and slapstickish? This series was noted for being anything but. The Keebler elves thing was more driving home a point about egotistic assholes ruining a perfectly good meme with their "artistic vision" for a fucking commercial for cookies: We have an opportunity to do something here that really resonates. The last lines in this clip are pure comedy gold.

Ah, yeah, now I see what you were talking about, his feverish Keebler Elf dreams.


Ok.

But the rolling credits changed each week and always delivered! :p

I loved this show.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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You'd think so but they all seem to do it. Pick a celeb and you'll probably find that they have/had a relationship with a co-star.

Guessing the rationalize it by assuming they'll never see one another again once the movie shoot is over.

Game Theory had an episode on the accuracy of Dating Sims and stuff, and one of the points was about closeness causing a sense of attraction. (The same thing you see with some workplace relationships.) However, it was also brought up that these Hollywood stars that get together often also are playing characters that are in a relationship together. So, in essence, trying to embody your role (that has fake feelings) can lead to stronger, real feelings.
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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Never knew that stuff about Castle. I didn't realize those two leads hated each other. But then again, I didn't care enough to know. I gave up on that show in the fifth season. I'm surprised it lasted that long.

A ninth season without those two women is an interesting choice though. I wonder if it was all negotiated behind their backs.
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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Veep, Silicon Valley, and Winter is Coming renewed. No confirmation yet on season sizes.