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2014 NFL draft and offseason thread: your mock draft, team wish list, and more

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So Oakland was voted the team the players least want to play for, which reminds me of a joke I heard a while back.



Al Davis was watching TV one day when he saw some Palestinian kid tossing large rocks at an Israeli tank from a large distance. Intrigued by the kids arm strength, he sent scouts over to evaluate the kid and eventually signed him to a contract to QB the Raiders. After winning his first 8 games he got a call from his Mother, "Son, you have to come home. Your sister was gang raped, you father beheaded, and our neighbors house was blown up." After that she breathed a long sigh, "Why did you make us move to Oakland?"
 
A breakdown on Bradford's injury.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/sam-bradford-st-lous-rams-nfl-injury/
Good point about it being the worst possible time, or very close to it. They'll be interesting this year, they've got talent on both sides of the ball, but no QB.

Rams should know better than anyone that just because your starter goes down in the preseason that doesn't mean your season's over.

Brian Schottenheimer doesn't inspire a lot of confidence, does he?

I think the Rams should just stick with Hill for this season. Trading for someone will be very pricey at this point and is unlikely to be a significant improvement anyway. Take your lumps, see if you can grab a QB next year. No point in wasting more assets trying to compensate.

No, they should do everything they can to trade for Alex Smith. He's proven he's worth more than RGIII, so I think that's a fair deal to base it on. 😀

Really that'd be the perfect mentor for Bradford. Fisher needs to make the move now! DO IT!


I've been wondering how long before players start pre-emptively getting their knees replaced.
 
Most I listened to didn't think it was a bad hit.

Niners put bowman and lattimore on the pup, out till at least week 7.
 
How do any of you think the world would react if Michael Sam was cut from St Louis?

I see it as a catch-22 -- Fisher ends up keeping a potentially usless player out of fear of the gay community (filling a spot which could be filled by a better player), or he cuts him and has to deal with backlash...

...or Sam is simply a good player worth keeping.

Thoughts?
 
So will this be another move that has the pats struggle at a position as they move someone before having a quality replacement ready?

But at least bill saves that cap space for......?
 
How do any of you think the world would react if Michael Sam was cut from St Louis?

Sadly, the more important issue is that the SEC defensive player of the year can't make a roster spot on an NFL team. Straight/gay or otherwise that only matters to media. It's a bigger question as to why a dominant player in arguably the the most defensively minded college division can't make a roster.
 
Sadly, the more important issue is that the SEC defensive player of the year can't make a roster spot on an NFL team. Straight/gay or otherwise that only matters to media. It's a bigger question as to why a dominant player in arguably the the most defensively minded college division can't make a roster.

Wasn't he Scottie Pippen to another player's Jordan? Heck, even a subpar defensive players can look like the second coming of Ray Lewis if he always gets single coverage.
 
Sadly, the more important issue is that the SEC defensive player of the year can't make a roster spot on an NFL team. Straight/gay or otherwise that only matters to media. It's a bigger question as to why a dominant player in arguably the the most defensively minded college division can't make a roster.

Like Tim Tebow?
 
So will this be another move that has the pats struggle at a position as they move someone before having a quality replacement ready?

But at least bill saves that cap space for......?

Mankins reputation is greater than his play the last couple of years. I believe he was second in allowing sacks last year for OGs. His performance didn't justify his $10m+ salary anymore. And now, Bill has another Rutgers player and possibly a replacement for Aaron Hernandez.
 
Sadly, the more important issue is that the SEC defensive player of the year can't make a roster spot on an NFL team. Straight/gay or otherwise that only matters to media. It's a bigger question as to why a dominant player in arguably the the most defensively minded college division can't make a roster.

Pretty sure he had one of the worst combine showings for his position.
 
Like Tim Tebow?

Tebow was an aberration in the college format and a player that happened to land on the right team with the right coach. And his skillset and position is one of the hardest to transition to the NFL.

Defensive players are usually more adaptable.
 
Pretty sure he had one of the worst combine showings for his position.

That is why he was drafted so late. He is too small for being that slow. I mean, it could have been he just had a bad combine showing, but who knows. If he get's cut and the gay community gets in an uproar, they are stupid.

And, even being one of the standouts in college is meaningless. There are 115 or so Division 1 college football teams, and all of them have 11 very talented defensive players. Sadly, not all of them are good enough for the NFL or some of them get overlooked.

Tebow was an aberration in the college format and a player that happened to land on the right team with the right coach. And his skillset and position is one of the hardest to transition to the NFL.

Defensive players are usually more adaptable.

Tebow was also a running QB the size of an LB. That won't fly in the NFL. You have to be an incredible athlete or have some incredible ability to throw. Tebow had neither.
 
That is why he was drafted so late. He is too small for being that slow. I mean, it could have been he just had a bad combine showing, but who knows. If he get's cut and the gay community gets in an uproar, they are stupid.

I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Albeit poorly. The story should be that he's just not good enough for the NFL. Sexual orientation shouldn't even be in the discussion.
 
I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Albeit poorly. The story should be that he's just not good enough for the NFL. Sexual orientation shouldn't even be in the discussion.
Yeah, I mean if he can't make the cut, get rid of him. The gay community would be hard pressed to call foul if he gets cut after they spent a draft spot on him.

They tried.

If he makes the team, good for him.
 
I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Albeit poorly. The story should be that he's just not good enough for the NFL. Sexual orientation shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Yeah, well (and I don't really want to make this a big deal, but it is) he took it upon himself to announce his sexuality to the world before the draft, and added that much pressure on himself during the combine. He probably would have performed poorly anyway, but that annoucment was another hurdle he added which probably affected that outcome.

Let's not forget that HE brought his sexuality into it, though I agree it shouldn't even matter.
 
Yeah, well (and I don't really want to make this a big deal, but it is) he took it upon himself to announce his sexuality to the world before the draft, and added that much pressure on himself during the combine. He probably would have performed poorly anyway, but that annoucment was another hurdle he added which probably affected that outcome.

Let's not forget that HE brought his sexuality into it, though I agree it shouldn't even matter.

I think him making it known was a good thing. There has never been an openly gay active player in the NFL, and that is stupid. It helped expose a lot of the idiotic homophobia that the league still has (I'm looking at you Dungy).


Unfortunately, I think he didn't take this opportunity to really do what he should have: have a strong character that leads the team off the field, even if not on. Similar to players like Chad Hennings. He wasn't the best defensive lineman on the field, but you heard nothing but good things about what he brought to that organization through his personality and work ethics.

I hope he does make the team, but not everyone can. Even if he ends up getting cut and doesn't go anywhere, he has already paved the way for fellow homosexual athletes to not be afraid or have to hide.
 
I think him making it known was a good thing. There has never been an openly gay active player in the NFL, and that is stupid. It helped expose a lot of the idiotic homophobia that the league still has (I'm looking at you Dungy).


Unfortunately, I think he didn't take this opportunity to really do what he should have: have a strong character that leads the team off the field, even if not on. Similar to players like Chad Hennings. He wasn't the best defensive lineman on the field, but you heard nothing but good things about what he brought to that organization through his personality and work ethics.

I hope he does make the team, but not everyone can. Even if he ends up getting cut and doesn't go anywhere, he has already paved the way for fellow homosexual athletes to not be afraid or have to hide.

I actually agree with you on the Dungy part. "I don't want a distraction" is probably one of the stupidest excuses to make.

True, they don't need to be bombarded with gay questions all week long, but teach these players that gays aren't contagious, or that just because a man is gay, he doesn't want every man that walks by him.

OTOH, Sam probably does respect the sexuality of other players and that most of them are straight, and the NFL lockerroom is a place of business.

He could be a Ben Wallace type -- and unskilled player, but one heck of a worker.
 
Pats trade Logan Mankins to Bucs, for TE Tim Wright and a 4th round pick.

Really strange move so close to the season, isn't it?
 
Pats trade Logan Mankins to Bucs, for TE Tim Wright and a 4th round pick.

Really strange move so close to the season, isn't it?

As has already been explained Makins was overpayed for what he was producing and Wright is a much needed replacement, as Hernandez is busy killing people and Gronk is going to be hurt again soon.

And a 4th round pick is enough for ol' Bill to work his magic.
 
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