2013 Mustang GT500

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vshah

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i think those sequential turn signals are among the sexiest features on any car anywhere.
 

Demo24

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Whoa, didn't notice the quad exhaust pipes. Man I want one of these, although I'd probably go for the boss variant. Only downside to that is I'm not overly fond of the color schemes.
 

Arkaign

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I don't think you've ever mentioned it, but what mods and how much hp/tq does your terminator put out?

Well, scientists in many parts of the world have noted for a while now that the earth's rotation sometimes suddenly slows, accelerates, or tilts slightly off of it's regular axis. For a while, the reason was completely unknown, but credible evidence suggests that it coincides with ExDeath's terminator operating at WOT.
 

KentState

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One very minor complaint. WTF doesn't Ford put Brembos on all four corners? Seems like the added cost would be minor.
 

overst33r

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One very minor complaint. WTF doesn't Ford put Brembos on all four corners? Seems like the added cost would be minor.

Maybe you're right, but I'm guessing it's because the rear only does 10-20% of the braking. The hardware isn't as important back there.
 

Arkaign

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Maybe you're right, but I'm guessing it's because the rear only does 10-20% of the braking. The hardware isn't as important back there.

True, under hard track use the fronts would melt before the rears even got moderately warm.
 

Pulsar

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The 5.8 Will be built at the Romeo engine plant where the current 5.4 is built so I think it will just be an enlarged 5.4, which is a Ford Modular 4 valve whose design history originates with the 1999 Lincoln Navigator and 2000 Mustang SVT Cobra R.

The 5.0 Coyote is actually technically a derivitive of the Ford Modular engine (Everything from the old 4.6, the 5.4 Triton/Intech/SVT, 5.4 Aussie motor, 5.0/53 Cammer race engine to the new 5.0 and even the 6.8L V10 in HD E/F series trucks). They both trace back to the same parent, but diverged quite a few years ago and are 2 sister engines in the same family.

Uh-uh. The block is an aluminum block from Germany. It has nothing to do with the cast iron Ford Modular 4 valve, other than similar head structure.

Where'd you get that info?
 

exdeath

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Well, scientists in many parts of the world have noted for a while now that the earth's rotation sometimes suddenly slows, accelerates, or tilts slightly off of it's regular axis. For a while, the reason was completely unknown, but credible evidence suggests that it coincides with ExDeath's terminator operating at WOT.

Nah, those are the guys running 40 psi compound boost twin turbo into blower on E85. I've just got a weak ass little 17 psi 91 pump gas setup.
 
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LTC8K6

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One very minor complaint. WTF doesn't Ford put Brembos on all four corners? Seems like the added cost would be minor.

Brembos are on all four corners as far as I know. Just the front has new ones.

Hmm...maybe not.

I could have sworn we saw pics of this car testing at the ring.
 
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mwmorph

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Uh-uh. The block is an aluminum block from Germany. It has nothing to do with the cast iron Ford Modular 4 valve, other than similar head structure.

Where'd you get that info?

For what? The 5.8 or the 5.0?
 

MagickMan

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Nice, looks much better, but they should just update and mass produce the GTX1 instead.

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Edit: and by "update", I mean leave the looks the hell alone and give it 850bhp. :D
 
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KentState

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Drove around a couple dealerships today and the scum are putting a $10k markup on the 2012 models. I did get to sit inside one and the biggest thing that struck me was the amount of hard plastic in the center console area and door panels.
 

JackBurton

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Drove around a couple dealerships today and the scum are putting a $10k markup on the 2012 models. I did get to sit inside one and the biggest thing that struck me was the amount of hard plastic in the center console area and door panels.

It has the exact same interior as the GT (minus the Recaro seats option on the 2013). It's not bad, but it's no Cadillac interior. As for the mark up, I'm not sure why they are marking it up. I would think they'd be marking it down with the announcement of the 2013. I know I'd be waiting on the 2013 if I was in the market for one. I'm actually waiting on the 2015 redesign. :)
 
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SarcasticDwarf

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It has the exact same interior as the GT (minus the Recaro seats option on the 2013). It's not bad, but it's no Cadillac interior. As for the mark up, I'm not sure why they are marking it up. I would think they'd be marking it down with the announcement of the 2013. I know I'd be waiting on the 2013 if I was in the market for one. I'm actually waiting on the 2015 redesign. :)

Because the one thing you can be sure of is that someone is ALWAYS dumb enough.
 

JackBurton

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Because the one thing you can be sure of is that someone is ALWAYS dumb enough.

Well I did hear a story from my sales guy that sold me my car. He said a guy that just bought a 2010 Mustang GT was pissed when the 2011 5.0 was announced. He was pissed that his sales guy didn't tell him about it when he bought his 2010. :confused:
 
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Yup. What he's thinking of are the 2007 GT500s everybody wanted so bad when the "new Shelby" first came out and they were hoarding them and marking them up to $60k+ and all the Barret Jackson type buyers scrambling to be the fist 100 or whatever.

The "zomg new Shelby" thing has worn off. 2012's were available right away at MSRP and I don't see the 2013 being any different.

I feel bad for people who bought:

'99/01 Cobra, '10 GT, and '07 and '12 GT500...

Well scratch the '07 GT500, I don't feel bad about those.

God it must suck to have just bought a '10 Mustang GT 2 months before the '11 5.0 launch... or even the 2011 V6.

Why would it have sucked? I got my '10 GT Premium for a huge discount. With the amount I saved on the car, I could super charge it and eat 2011's all day long. In the long run, for daily driving, 315HP or 400HP doesn't make a lick of difference. Plus, no shitty Chinese Getrag transission. :p
 
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Drove around a couple dealerships today and the scum are putting a $10k markup on the 2012 models. I did get to sit inside one and the biggest thing that struck me was the amount of hard plastic in the center console area and door panels.

Oh Noes hard plastic!!!!
Show me a production car that doesn't use plastic. IF it's hard or soft it doesn't matter. I actually prefer hard plastics as they are less prone to damage. And when you have kids, damage will happen.
 

exdeath

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Oh Noes hard plastic!!!!
Show me a production car that doesn't use plastic. IF it's hard or soft it doesn't matter. I actually prefer hard plastics as they are less prone to damage. And when you have kids, damage will happen.

Just call it "ultra high tech polymer" or "lightweight spaceage molecular resins" and problem solved. It's all in the marketing as numerous car manufacturers have proven already. Works for everyone else.
 

LTC8K6

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Yeah, bring back the metal dash with the thin layer of vinyl or pleather...
 

Pulsar

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For what? The 5.8 or the 5.0?

5.8, which is the engine I thought was being discussed. Mea Culpa if I'm wrong.

The aluminum block for the shelby is actually a kissing cousin to the block that was in the Ford GT.
 

JackBurton

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Why would it have sucked? I got my '10 GT Premium for a huge discount. With the amount I saved on the car, I could super charge it and eat 2011's all day long. In the long run, for daily driving, 315HP or 400HP doesn't make a lick of difference. Plus, no shitty Chinese Getrag transission. :p

What sucks is that stock V6 2011+ Mustangs are keeping up with your GT. You can supercharge your GT, but the 5.0 has much more potential. And it's 315HP vs 412HP, almost a 100HP (naturally aspirated) difference. ;) You saved some money, but the 2011+ GT's are just better all around and think they are definitely worth the extra cost over a <2011 GT. But that's just me.

On the positive side, 2010 is when Ford redid the body style and I like it better than <2010 bodies. The 2010 GT is the first Mustang I ever test drove and instantly became a fan. LOVED the car! The only reason I didn't get one was because it wasn't the right time for me to buy a car, financially. After a few months, I heard rumors of the 5.0 and immediately put the brakes on purchasing the car altogether to wait to see what Ford released. Later in 2010 (October), I test drove a 5.0 and the wife LOVED it and I bought it right there. I don't know why they went for it, but they game me a great deal on a fully loaded GT Premium with Brembo package (well, almost fully loaded. Couldn't freakin' find a dealer that had a GT with Nav. :mad:). And then an old man ran into my car. :mad:
 

KentState

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Oh Noes hard plastic!!!!
Show me a production car that doesn't use plastic. IF it's hard or soft it doesn't matter. I actually prefer hard plastics as they are less prone to damage. And when you have kids, damage will happen.

When it resembles a Rubbermaid trash can, I do take exception. It was a huge problem with my Corvette, Camaro is bad and the Mustang looks bad also. There are better ways to execute an interior using plastics, brushed aluminum, leather, alcantera, or wood so it doesn't look like a trash can.
 

LTC8K6

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The 2010 Mustang GT was under 5 seconds to 60. The 2011 V6 would be left well behind by a 2010 GT.

2010 GT also has the suspension improvements that the 2011's have, iirc.
 

JackBurton

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The 2010 Mustang GT was under 5 seconds to 60. The 2011 V6 would be left well behind by a 2010 GT.

2010 GT also has the suspension improvements that the 2011's have, iirc.

The race is closer than you may think. A stock 2010 GT will beat a stock 2011 V6, but it's pretty dang close. Take a look at Youtube, they should have the race still up (I think Car&Driver or Road&Track did the race).