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Moonbeam

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A logical value system during these trying times is that of measurable results based on dollers.

Moonie what was your holiday vacation like? Did you get an ultra exotic resort with a 2.5 mile wide private beach?

Of course our Dear Leader needs a vacation, but this crap is so flamboyant and excessive. It's a smack in the face to the hard working people of the US. At least, for those of us who work.

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Nope, the last time I went to Hawaii I just stayed at the Royal Hawaiian. I'll probably go to England for a month or so this year, fate willing, but I plan to move around. I may rent or buy a camper or car. I see I can buy a Volvo here at my local dealer and pick it up in Sweden, drive it through Europe and then have it shipped back to California, including round trip flight, and pick up at the airport to the Volvo factory. Problem is I don't really fancy a Volvo so still thinking. I could have bought a castle in Ireland last time I was there and am still a bit sad that I didn't. I had a van I bought in England I used to sleep in. But remember that no matter where I go, there I am, so anyplace at all is fantastic for me. If you see the world with the right eyes you won't have to envy the vacations of others because you will know that your life has put you smack dab in the kingdom of heaven. That's why I know myself to be a fool every time I think about that castle. Still......... Anyway, it didn't have internet.
 

werepossum

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well if the democrats were unwilling to negotiate let them admit it, guess that was my point.


SNIP
Perception is Reality to this President.
They do admit it when they squeal about "hostage taking". And perception pretty much is reality in politics, unfortunately.

Nope, the last time I went to Hawaii I just stayed at the Royal Hawaiian. I'll probably go to England for a month or so this year, fate willing, but I plan to move around. I may rent or buy a camper or car. I see I can buy a Volvo here at my local dealer and pick it up in Sweden, drive it through Europe and then have it shipped back to California, including round trip flight, and pick up at the airport to the Volvo factory. Problem is I don't really fancy a Volvo so still thinking. I could have bought a castle in Ireland last time I was there and am still a bit sad that I didn't. I had a van I bought in England I used to sleep in. But remember that no matter where I go, there I am, so anyplace at all is fantastic for me. If you see the world with the right eyes you won't have to envy the vacations of others because you will know that your life has put you smack dab in the kingdom of heaven. That's why I know myself to be a fool every time I think about that castle. Still......... Anyway, it didn't have internet.
Sounds idyllic, though I'd miss the good ol' USA.

Although Obama seems hell-bent on getting me over that.
 

Jhhnn

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It weird that you'd put together a list like that. Do you think someone reads it and thinks "I gota switch teams, these guys are horrible"? Or is it just the joy of pointing out the gaffs and wrongdoing of others that gives you pleasure?

I'm honestly curious about the thought process that lead to posting this, and what result you hoped to achieve.

It's just Moonbeam's not too subtle way of trying to get conservatives to look at themselves. As a question, It'd be "You're with them, huh? Really?"
 

Moonbeam

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It's just Moonbeam's not too subtle way of trying to get conservatives to look at themselves. As a question, It'd be "You're with them, huh? Really?"

That's about it. I believe the reason that conservative in particular have no shame is that they are morally committed to group think, they have been strongly programmed to conform by being shamed if they show difference. This is how parents destroy their children. They shame them so badly that nobody else will be able to harm them that way. They make them into conformist little Nazis and whips for social order, defenders of the group think.

But the behavior of folk who feel no shame is shameful in the extreme. They walk around with these horrible warts on their noses they are unable to see. So I show them those warts and they go crazy. Actually, they don't go crazy, they simply reveal all the craziness that's already there. You can be as smart as hell and still be a stupid asshole if you can't think for yourself. But instead of embracing the different they want to wipe out everything that's different. We don't need a civilization based on the Spanish Inquisition run by authoritarian brain defective assholes. So if it bothers then to look in the mirror, they can fucking change or suffer.
 
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Do you really not understand the difference between bush or even clinton taking obvious working vacations to typical places with complete white house-style offices and working accommodations already setup, with 'typical' security requirements.... ..compared to our Dear Leader renting ultra exotic trendy resort plantations???


The cost differences between going to a historically 'regular' white house location such as camp david which is already ready to go versus our Dear Leader's ultra exotic vacations are astronomical. I could not care less about the actual days of vacation, particularly when most world leaders work on vacation...

Meanwhile our Dear Leader is sending tweets about how awesome his healthcare reform is going. What a frigging joke.

http://articles.mcall.com/2013-08-2...20_1_president-obama-vacation-travel-expenses

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In 2011 Obama's travel expenses were $1.4 billion. (In comparison, the royal family of England travel cost only $57.8 million.) In addition, the Obama Christmas holiday was for 17 days, totaling $4 million. In contrast George W. Bush stayed nearby at Camp David over Christmas so his staff could enjoy the holidays with their families. President Ronald Reagan spent $1.3 million per year for travel.
This year is the worst, and it's only half over. The trip with his family to Africa has been predicted to exceed $100 million.
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I get it, he's not on your team and the team is all. Booyah!

Now, if you are truly interested in discovering the truth of the matter spend some time doing your own research rather than simply believing and repeating the latest propaganda coming from team headquarters.

Here's a few links to get you started. (maybe 20 seconds on google to find these)

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07...-obamas-entire-week-vacation-hotel-rooms.html

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/06...e-laura-bushs-year-africa-spending-spree.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022074289

http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/06/18...set-about-the-cost-of-bushs-two-africa-trips/

http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/06/01/drudge-ny-post-report-obamas-nyc-trip-cost-igno/150723


And, in advance, don't care if you don't like the sites I found, there are plenty of others out there who will be able to provide similar info.

Also, not a Democrat (not even American) so you don't need to bother going there.

Also, personally don't particularly care for Obama. Thinks he's a rather bad President. I suspect, though, that my reasons for disliking him as President are a bit more substantive than yours.
 

werepossum

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I get it, he's not on your team and the team is all. Booyah!

Now, if you are truly interested in discovering the truth of the matter spend some time doing your own research rather than simply believing and repeating the latest propaganda coming from team headquarters.

Here's a few links to get you started. (maybe 20 seconds on google to find these)

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07...-obamas-entire-week-vacation-hotel-rooms.html

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/06...e-laura-bushs-year-africa-spending-spree.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022074289

http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/06/18...set-about-the-cost-of-bushs-two-africa-trips/

http://mediamatters.org/research/2009/06/01/drudge-ny-post-report-obamas-nyc-trip-cost-igno/150723


And, in advance, don't care if you don't like the sites I found, there are plenty of others out there who will be able to provide similar info.

Also, not a Democrat (not even American) so you don't need to bother going there.

Also, personally don't particularly care for Obama. Thinks he's a rather bad President. I suspect, though, that my reasons for disliking him as President are a bit more substantive than yours.
Hell, if I could get him to take SCOTUS, Congress and the top few levels of the executive branch with him I'd count it a bargain.

Add the IRS and the NSA, I'll spring for the Swedish massage with the happy ending.
 

Angry Irishman

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It's just Moonbeam's not too subtle way of trying to get conservatives to look at themselves. As a question, It'd be "You're with them, huh? Really?"

Take a look in mirror first.....you should say the same thing. I don't really care for either party but please explain how the D party is so much better to include the POTUS. Please explain why you think there aren't just as many fouls against this party than the GOP.

Blind zealots on both sides of this forum.
 
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row

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A trip down memory lane:

a trip down memory lane is always fascinating. i got me to thinking of some of the more profound tidbits mouthed by the lefts best and brightest. we might as well start off with the left wing rag politifact's "lie of the year"

berries "If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan"

that wasn't so much profound, and not even interesting, just a big ass whopper. we'll do better. i almost fell out of my chair when i heard hj mouth this one, not being sarcastic, not some analogy, just a democrat and stupid.

congressman hank johnson "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize"

pelosi "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it"

melissa harris-perry “We haven’t had a very collective notion of ‘these are our children,’ so, part of it is that we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents, or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities."


of course you all remember this anti gun crusader classic.

u.s. rep. diana degette “These are ammunition, they’re bullets, so the people who have those now, they’re going to shoot them, so if you ban them in the future, the number of these high-capacity magazines is going to decrease dramatically over time because the bullets will have been shot and there won’t be any more available.”

what else from the intellectual power houses of the left? well...

maxine waters “We don’t need to be having something like sequestration that’s going to cause these jobs losses, over 170 million jobs that could be lost.”

rep monique davis “You know what I heard… that it’s not black on black crime that’s killing kids in Chicago, it’s actually cops shooting those kids."

selibus “single men often do need maternity care."
(i dunno, probably true for leftists males)

michelle o “Believe me, as a busy single mother… er, I shouldn’t say single. When you have a husband who’s president it can feel a little single… but he’s there.” did she just let it slip that berrie's got no balls?

biden “Gabby Giffords, my good friend, was shot and mortally wounded.”

Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington, DC: "If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate."

Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz on the newly passed health care law: "We actually have not required in this law that you carry health insurance."

John Kerry on health care: "I'm going to be honest with you -- I don't know a lot about Cuba's healthcare system. Is it a government-run system?"

Joe Biden to Missouri State Senator Chuck Graham, who is wheelchair bound: "stand up ... Chuck, stand up, Chuck, let 'em see you!


this one was a long time ago, but i still find it funny. well, closer to pathetic i guess, but we're talking about liberals so not much difference.

Barack Obama: "I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go?"

just a few, the list is long, but looking forward to new, exciting, & intellectually profound passages that are bound to come our way.
 

trenchfoot

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What's really amazing is how this thread transformed itself from one that spoke to the Repub's congressional track record into a classic Obama basher.

Is this the new MO for defending one's party track record now? This slick trick is elegant in the sense that all one has to do to defend their party's performance record is to step in front of it, slam the door closed and sling craploads of......suspiciously embellished odoriferous slimeballs at the other guy's house.

I guess there really is something (odd) to that old adage "the best defense...." :D
 

row

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...What's really amazing is how this thread transformed itself from one that spoke to the Repub's congressional track record into a classic Obama basher...

it's a metamorphoisis. whoever started this thread simply isn't very entertaining, boring as it were. so, in the interest of diversity, collectivism, and other stuff i thought it might be fun to liven it up a bit? no. ok, so as we're all well aware liberals truly are fonts of sophistication and erudition. we know this because liberals tell us, and liberals are smart. see for yourself...

While giving a 1995 speech on the House floor on the evils of slavery, Congressman Major Owens said that “there were 200 million people who died just coming across” the Atlantic during the slave trade. He then elaborated, “So great was the number of people thrown overboard that it altered the ecology of the ocean; the sharks, even now, follow after ships on a trail, seeking the flesh that was thrown overboard in all those years.”

yes, to this day the sharks tell their children where to go for good eatin’, sort of like truck drivers giving the lowdown on the best restaurants. not to mention the fact that 200 million people is almost twice the estimated population of Africa in 1850 (111 million).

of course you don't have to be a politician to say stupid things, just liberal. for your reading pleasure..

While covering a May Day rally in New York City this year, NBC reporter Ida Siegel was approached by a videographer and asked if she was going to cover the presence of communist hammer-and-sickle flags. Her response? She said she hadn’t seen any and then queried, “What are they? What do they represent?”

here I thought the Soviet flag was one thing an NBC reporter would be acquainted with.

straight from sf's leftist ktvu...

San Francisco’s KTVU made news when reporting on the Asiana plane crash recently — but not in the way they intended. Mistaking an obvious Internet joke for legitimate information, the station reported, “KTVU has just learned the names of the four pilots who were aboard the flight. They are Captain Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Low, Ho Lee Fuk and Bang Ding OW. The NTSB has confirmed that these are the names of the pilots onboard Flight 214 when it crashed. We are working to determine what roles each of them played during the landing.

you don't have to search the net for amusing stuff though, just read the last post by any progressive here. usually good for a chuckle if not a belly laugh.
 
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irishScott

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*yawn* The football game continues.

Liberals did plenty of equally dumb shit in 2013 as well. They just don't think it's dumb shit and come up with pitiful excuses that they then defend to the death, just like Conservatives.
 

irishScott

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I still don't know why he took it.

Because he's a bureaucrat who's only notable talents are charisma and public speaking. Give bureaucrat an award, he accepts it without question. Obama was never going to be the wise elder statesman. That award helped perpetuate the image he wanted to project. Of course everyone on both sides laughs about it now.
 

HomerJS

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I'm still laughing about our Dear Leader obtaining the Nobel peace prize.

Typical righty move. When lacking material go years back even though thread is about 2013. Your chuckle occurred in 2009.

BTW - waiting for the gratuitous Robert Byrd mention.
 

nehalem256

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Typical righty move. When lacking material go years back even though thread is about 2013. Your chuckle occurred in 2009.

BTW - waiting for the gratuitous Robert Byrd mention.

Sebelius, who was briefed on April 4, testified weeks later at an Energy and Commerce Committee meeting that “our energy and resources are focused on getting it (HealthCare.gov) up and running, and we are on track, and the contracts have been led, and we are monitoring it every step along the way.”
http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...abouthealthcaregovproblemsasearlyasmarch.html

Good luck beating that :colbert:
 

Greenman

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Among the many traditional wisdoms that have come down to us from ancient times, there is one such also, a sentimentality of kinds perhaps based on our self reflective awareness of the epidermal nature of our lives, that whenever one year cycles into the next a tribute of sorts is paid to its passage, an homage of retrospection, as it were, and the purpose of which is to mnemonically fix for posterity, that they might not repeat all those mistakes which are the inevitable lot of this mortal coil to suffer caused by the conservative brain defect. And so it came to pass, that on the night of the New Year's Eve, I chanced upon just this one of these, the one so posted above and even provided a link so that none should think I claimed such prodigious creativity for myself, and without the slightest thought, pondering, or stewing, the quality of the list being imminently clear, I posted it without ado, with the knowledge that each would take from it, according to his or her capacity, all the wisdom each could carry.

Trolling, got it.
Thanks.
 

OutHouse

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"As of Aug. 13, 2013, Obama is on his 15th vacation trip, covering all or part of 96 days total. He's spending this vacation in Martha's Vineyard with his family.

At the same point in his presidency — Aug. 13, 2005 — George W. Bush had made 51 visits to his ranch in tiny Crawford, Texas, totaling all or part of 335 days. (Note: Bush sometimes used the property to host world leaders.)

Bush also traveled seven times to his family’s oceanside compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, covering all or part of 26 days — bringing his total number of vacation days at this point in his presidency to 349 days. (335+26 doesn’t = 349, but remember the “all or part of” caveat.)

What about former President Bill Clinton? At this point in his second term, he had taken 11 vacations covering all or part of 84 days.

“The trips were mostly to Martha’s Vineyard or Jackson Hole, WY. Though he also spent a few days in Hilton Head for New Year’s and then to the Virgin Islands for a few days,” Knoller said in an email.

And former President Ronald Reagan? At this point in his second term he had made 29 trips to his ranch in California, spanning all or part of 180 days.

None of these figures includes visits to Camp David, the presidential retreat outside Washington, which Knoller does not consider vacation."


Source - http://news.yahoo.com/-obama’s-vacations-and-golfing-by-the-numbers--165241111.html

To be fair, bush used crawford as a second white house. I don't call his time in his own house a vacation. So why does obama not vacation to chicago?