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Anarchist420

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Yes, if he had attacked the root of the Great Depression--the Fed. The Federal Reserve System forces fractional reserve banking and that caused all of the bank runs.
 

JMapleton

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Rand Paul will win KY, it's locked, so his political career is set in stone and all us Ron Paul nuts have a new leader to transfer the momentum. It's not going anywhere and we're only getting louder.

The Ron Paul Revolution is the only modern political movement to gain some stream that actually demonstrates what this country was intended to be, not the Democrats or Republicans mantra of "if I was going to build my own country, this is what it would look like."

This country was founded with a theme, a reason that it was set in stone with. Personal, economic liberty. Not a bunch of bias thugs playing with the social and economic knobs trying to create some personal utopia.
 

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Obama is about to kill off the Dem party if he uses executive orders to push ahead on cap and trade, health-care etc as reported today:


"Obama Making Plans to Use Executive Power "
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/us/politics/13obama.html

Stick a fork in Dems if Obama does that - a BIG fork.



Since Obama will leave US with a gigantic financial mess I like Romney and Allen West for VP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M

He can be the black leader Obama failed to be

If you read the article, the things listed need to have action. If the republicans continue to refuse to cooperate and the democrats continue to fight among themselves, then as President he needs to act. Somebody has to do something, because this do nothing garbage ain't working.
 

ranmaniac

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General David Patraeus and Mitt Romney. Although given the track record of war hero/veterans winning the Presidency has been rather lousy (Bob Dole, John McCain etc), Patraeus could very well be a serious contender. 2012 will probably see a new third party that could shake things up a bit like how Ross Perot did to the 1992 elections.
 

Throckmorton

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General David Patraeus and Mitt Romney. Although given the track record of war hero/veterans winning the Presidency has been rather lousy (Bob Dole, John McCain etc), Patraeus could very well be a serious contender. 2012 will probably see a new third party that could shake things up a bit like how Ross Perot did to the 1992 elections.

You're crazy if you think Petraeus would run as a Republican.
 

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If you read the article, the things listed need to have action. If the republicans continue to refuse to cooperate and the democrats continue to fight among themselves, then as President he needs to act. Somebody has to do something, because this do nothing garbage ain't working.

Actually they don't need to have action - which is why even Democrats have pulled back from scams like cap and trade. GOP cant stop this stuff. It's a bare lie that Obama's agenda is stalled because of GOP. GOP also represents views of most Americans on these issues. From MA vote it's understood people see Obama et al ramming things at them and they don't like it. They saw the shady health-care deals that saw unions get off while they are taxed and perhaps threatened with jail and fined. Obama is just a maniac who will ruin Dem party.
 

soundforbjt

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I still think it's Newt & Palin for 2012. Which should an easy kill for the dems, if they remember Newt's personal history and attack it (religious right won't be happy). Palin's a slam dunk...Just play the tapes of any Q&A other than a Faux News clip.

Romney...I don't think the religious right is ready for "magic" underwear belief in the WH.
 
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woodie1

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Last I read Palin doesn't get very high marks among the GOP faithful. Don't think there's any way she'd be nominated unless the GOP wants to self destruct completely. She's out to make some cash while she can IMHO but that's about it.
 

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Lifer
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Actually they don't need to have action - which is why even Democrats have pulled back from scams like cap and trade. GOP cant stop this stuff. It's a bare lie that Obama's agenda is stalled because of GOP. GOP also represents views of most Americans on these issues. From MA vote it's understood people see Obama et al ramming things at them and they don't like it. They saw the shady health-care deals that saw unions get off while they are taxed and perhaps threatened with jail and fined. Obama is just a maniac who will ruin Dem party.

That is the same Republican drivel we have been hearing since the election. Not one fact, just same ole tired Obama is bad nonsense.
 

SparkyJJO

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If you read the article, the things listed need to have action. If the republicans continue to refuse to cooperate and the democrats continue to fight among themselves, then as President he needs to act. Somebody has to do something, because this do nothing garbage ain't working.

It is an abuse of the executive order to push something like the health "care" bill through.

Not to mention that the whole health care thing is unconstitutional.
 

SparkyJJO

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By what grounds do you believe that?

No provisions in the Constitution for government to take over the medical system. That is not the job the Constitution gives the federal government.

This country would be in much less trouble if we read the Constitution as it is, and go only by what it allows for, instead of just trying to ignore the parts we don't like or try and say we can do anything that it doesn't explicitly say we cannot do.
 

OrByte

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No provisions in the Constitution for government to take over the medical system. That is not the job the Constitution gives the federal government.

This country would be in much less trouble if we read the Constitution as it is, and go only by what it allows for, instead of just trying to ignore the parts we don't like or try and say we can do anything that it doesn't explicitly say we cannot do.
wow..if we had to list everything that the government could/should do in the constitution that would be one hell of a long document.
 

SparkyJJO

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wow..if we had to list everything that the government could/should do in the constitution that would be one hell of a long document.

Not really. Constitution already gives it all, no need to write it out again.
 

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Lifer
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Not really. Constitution already gives it all, no need to write it out again.

Quote one line from the constitution that prohibits universal healthcare? I get so sick and tired of the rehearsed lies. Healthcare in general has been controled and regulated by the federal and state government. And universal healthcare is not a government take over. These accusations are just stupid and not founded in one shred of fact.
 

werepossum

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Obama is about to kill off the Dem party if he uses executive orders to push ahead on cap and trade, health-care etc as reported today:


"Obama Making Plans to Use Executive Power "
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/us/politics/13obama.html

Stick a fork in Dems if Obama does that - a BIG fork.



Since Obama will leave US with a gigantic financial mess I like Romney and Allen West for VP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M

He can be the black leader Obama failed to be

Hey Obama's people did say he was "ready to rule" on day one. They didn't say "ready to lead." Revolutionizing America through executive orders fits right in. I think you give us far too much credit though; if the economy is better Obama will likely be re-elected. Most Americans believe the president runs the country and is therefore responsible for everything that happens. Plus the main stream media will still be completely in the tank for The Anointed One.

If the economy is still bad then voters will likely look for an older white male with a lot of political savvy and experience. Personally I prefer Romney but I don't think Republican primary voters are up to nominating a Mormon. I suspect a senator will get the nod although none of them thrill me. Maybe Scott Brown - he won't have had time to do too many things to piss off voters. That's the lesson of Obama. If Patraeus runs on either ticket then he's got my vote. I don't know when I've seen a smarter person.