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2011 Ducati Monster 1100 EVO

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FiLeZz said:
Call me when it comes in with a sr4 motor.


Needs more ponies.

100 will not cut it.. I left behind the 100hp bikes long ago.
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its what keeps me from going close to a newer monster, perf/$$ isnt there for me.

I've been looking at the last gen S4r's.....but 10K for a used bike is alot too

decided to upgrade 2 computers and my home theater instead so now I'm stuck with *just* two bikes till atleast next winter...
 
JulesMaximus said:
I've ridden the Monster, two different ones in fact, a 2009 Monster 1100 S and a 2007 Monster S4R. I found both to be very comfortable.

The Aprilia Shiver is a nice bike but it is kind of underpowered and a lot heavier compared to the Ducati. Also, Aprilia dealer support can be spotty, we just had an Aprilia dealer fold here. Aftermarket is kind of weak too.

I like the new Speed Triple but the Ducati just speaks to me. I like the way it looks and sounds.
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the Monster took me a while to get used to (coming from a very 'standard' Ninja250), and i don't like how the engine bogs under 4krpm (which is a classic Duc trait right?). Also, single-sided swingarm does looks nice but it does nothing to me, i prefer the more practical DSS. Dry Clutch? Finds the noise annoying. Torquey V-twin? i prefer high revvers.

so ya, everything that makes a Ducati special to most ppl, I don't find appealling.

which brings to the Street Triple, which makes me feel right at home. (I do however agree with your sentiment against the Thurxton/Bonneville/Scrambler, while they look cool, they ain't that fast, and that's coming from my 250)

and ya, the aprilia dealer support is very weak. only one guy in Long Beach really knows how to fix stuff. and yes, while on paper the Dursoduro is heavier, i didn't feel the weight at all, comparing to the monster/hypermotard. Look wise, the Apes win my heart.
 
andylawcc said:
the Monster took me a while to get used to (coming from a very 'standard' Ninja250), and i don't like how the engine bogs under 4krpm (which is a classic Duc trait right?). Also, single-sided swingarm does looks nice but it does nothing to me, i prefer the more practical DSS. Dry Clutch? Finds the noise annoying. Torquey V-twin? i prefer high revvers.

so ya, everything that makes a Ducati special to most ppl, I don't find appealling.

which brings to the Street Triple, which makes me feel right at home. (I do however agree with your sentiment against the Thurxton/Bonneville/Scrambler, while they look cool, they ain't that fast, and that's coming from my 250)

and ya, the aprilia dealer support is very weak. only one guy in Long Beach really knows how to fix stuff. and yes, while on paper the Dursoduro is heavier, i didn't feel the weight at all, comparing to the monster/hypermotard. Look wise, the Apes win my heart.
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I like the Street Triple and the Speed Triple. Haven't ridden one yet though personally.

I'm not crazy about the dry clutch either, this new Monster has a wet clutch though so it should be both lighter and less noisy. The single sided swingarm is purely aesthetic but many bikes have them and they look sick IMO.

I didn't find the Monster 1100 engine boggy at all. A little lumpy off idle but it revs willingly and the thrust is intoxicating and faster than nearly ANY street legal car in a 0-60 blast. I'm into canyon carving so track day stuff doesn't interest me much although the Monster would be right at home on a track I'm sure due to its light weight, excellent chassis, and brakes.

That Aprilia Shiver 750 is no faster than my SV650 is. I'd be trading a very capable and inexpensive Japanese bike with tons of aftermarket and dealer support for a quirky Italian bike with little dealer support and very little aftermarket support for what? $9 grand? No thanks. I like the look and sound of the Aprilia and their supersports are also sexy as hell but they just have too many strikes against them for me to ever consider buying one.

I've ridden a number of bikes, Harleys, BMWs, Japanese sport bikes, sport tourers with high revving i4s, but none of them speak to me the way the streetfighter style bikes do and the Monster is king of that look. Triumph is up there too.

It's cool though. We don't all have to like the same things. :thumbsup:
 
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JulesMaximus said:
I like the Street Triple and the Speed Triple. Haven't ridden one yet though personally.

I'm not crazy about the dry clutch either, this new Monster has a wet clutch though so it should be both lighter and less noisy. The single sided swingarm is purely aesthetic but many bikes have them and they look sick IMO.

I didn't find the Monster 1100 engine boggy at all. A little lumpy off idle but it revs willingly and the thrust is intoxicating and faster than nearly ANY street legal car in a 0-60 blast. I'm into canyon carving so track day stuff doesn't interest me much although the Monster would be right at home on a track I'm sure due to its light weight, excellent chassis, and brakes.

That Aprilia Shiver 750 is no faster than my SV650 is. I'd be trading a very capable and inexpensive Japanese bike with tons of aftermarket and dealer support for a quirky Italian bike with little dealer support and very little aftermarket support for what? $9 grand? No thanks. I like the look and sound of the Aprilia and their supersports are also sexy as hell but they just have too many strikes against them for me to ever consider buying one.

I've ridden a number of bikes, Harleys, BMWs, Japanese sport bikes, sport tourers with high revving i4s, but none of them speak to me the way the streetfighter style bikes do and the Monster is king of that look. Triumph is up there too.

It's cool though. We don't all have to like the same things. :thumbsup:
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I'll let you know about the Triple in about 2 months 🙂
 
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That Aprilia Shiver 750 is no faster than my SV650 is. I'd be trading a very capable and inexpensive Japanese bike with tons of aftermarket and dealer support for a quirky Italian bike with little dealer support and very little aftermarket support for what? $9 grand? No thanks. I like the look and sound of the Aprilia and their supersports are also sexy as hell but they just have too many strikes against them for me to ever consider buying one.
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I like the SV650, but the Shiver is *miles* ahead in important areas

way way way better FI, selectable maps, smoother.

way way way better suspension, no need to toss on phlines/penske/etc.

the oem suspension on the SV's is pretty crappy. Sure you can get adjustable suspension with the S models, but its still crappy. I had to replace everything on my SV1000S, racetech forks, revavled GSXR shock...

then of course, its an aprillia :wub:

I'm more likely to get a 650 and sprocket it down for daily riding than I am to actually get a shiver, but if I could I would!

also, the MSRP of the SV650s is what, 7500 now?

not that much of a price difference 🙂
 
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roguerower said:
I'll let you know about the Triple in about 2 months 🙂
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I dunno if it was your thread or another but unless Triumph of NA has gotten their crap together I'd steer well clear of them. Might want to search my username and triumph


FWIW Ducati dealer support is much better than Triumph (I'm not talking dealer quality but dealer support from the manufacturer)
 
SpatiallyAware said:
I dunno if it was your thread or another but unless Triumph of NA has gotten their crap together I'd steer well clear of them. Might want to search my username and triumph


FWIW Ducati dealer support is much better than Triumph (I'm not talking dealer quality but dealer support from the manufacturer)
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I remember you saying something about it. The only issue I've heard about regarding the Triple Rs is the R/R needing to be upgraded but from what I've read, if it's under warranty, the dealers have been doing it without any hassle.

Triumphs are pretty rare and trying to find someone around here who can tell me about the dealer here in town is hard, especially since it's a newer dealer that also sells BMW motorcycles.
 
Zargon said:
I like the SV650, but the Shiver is *miles* ahead in important areas

way way way better FI, selectable maps, smoother.

way way way better suspension, no need to toss on phlines/penske/etc.

the oem suspension on the SV's is pretty crappy. Sure you can get adjustable suspension with the S models, but its still crappy. I had to replace everything on my SV1000S, racetech forks, revavled GSXR shock...

then of course, its an aprillia :wub:

I'm more likely to get a 650 and sprocket it down for daily riding than I am to actually get a shiver, but if I could I would!

also, the MSRP of the SV650s is what, 7500 now?

not that much of a price difference 🙂
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No, you can't. The S model has the exact same suspension it just has more preload dialed in from the factory.

And I have replaced everything on my suspension which is probably why I like my SV so much. It was garbage when I bought it. It does have an excellent chassis though so once you address the crappy suspension and OEM tires it becomes a much better bike. I have a ZX14 shock on the rear of my bike. Paid $50 for it on e-bay and it drops right in, same length as the stock shock too. Nice thing about Japanese supersports is the availability of cheap parts once the squids crash them. 😉

I don't know about the FI. My bike is fuel injected. It starts every time, it never stumbles or hesitates, it pulls smoothly all the way up to the 11,000 rpm redline. Not sure what else it could do quite frankly...scratch my balls for me? I guess selectable maps would be nice for rain but it rarely rains here so when it does I either don't ride or just take it easy. Both bikes do the 1/4 mile in the 11 second range and will sprint 0-60 in 4 seconds flat.

I paid $5999 for my 2008 naked brand new.
 
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guess it was just the 1kS's that got adjustable forks then

they dont even make the naked sv anymore 🙁

the FI is OK, it was worse on the 1k's
 
roguerower said:
I remember you saying something about it. The only issue I've heard about regarding the Triple Rs is the R/R needing to be upgraded but from what I've read, if it's under warranty, the dealers have been doing it without any hassle.

Triumphs are pretty rare and trying to find someone around here who can tell me about the dealer here in town is hard, especially since it's a newer dealer that also sells BMW motorcycles.
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My local Triumph dealer is one of those dealers who specialize in more than one brand. They carry Triumph, Yamaha, KTM, Polaris, and Victory. Not sure how their service department is quite frankly. I've been in the showroom probably half a dozen times though over the past few years.

The Aprilia dealer that went out of business carried Aprilia, Moto Guzzi, Vespa, and Piaggio. I have been in there a few times too checking out some of their bikes...including the Shiver. I've never actually seen one on the roads though.
 
Zargon said:
guess it was just the 1kS's that got adjustable forks then

they dont even make the naked sv anymore 🙁

the FI is OK, it was worse on the 1k's
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I heard that too. A friend of mine had the V-Strom 1000 and he said that thing would stumble and then it would surge and you'd be going 100mph. Most of the trouble was in 3rd gear at around 50-60mph IIRC.

Naked SV was replaced by the Gladius which looks gay as hell stock. I've seen some guys do some cool things to them though with a bit of aftermarket support.

The SV650 models only had adjustment for pre-load front and rear on both the S and naked model.
 
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andylawcc said:
the Monster took me a while to get used to (coming from a very 'standard' Ninja250), and i don't like how the engine bogs under 4krpm (which is a classic Duc trait right?). Also, single-sided swingarm does looks nice but it does nothing to me, i prefer the more practical DSS. Dry Clutch? Finds the noise annoying. Torquey V-twin? i prefer high revvers.

so ya, everything that makes a Ducati special to most ppl, I don't find appealling.

which brings to the Street Triple, which makes me feel right at home. (I do however agree with your sentiment against the Thurxton/Bonneville/Scrambler, while they look cool, they ain't that fast, and that's coming from my 250)

and ya, the aprilia dealer support is very weak. only one guy in Long Beach really knows how to fix stuff. and yes, while on paper the Dursoduro is heavier, i didn't feel the weight at all, comparing to the monster/hypermotard. Look wise, the Apes win my heart.
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How long have you owned your street triple? I think a street triple with ABS would rock 🙂
 
SViper said:
Wow. Just...wow. That is a huge difference in stopping distance with ABS vs. no ABS.

I would also agree that ABS on a street bike is a very good thing. The average street rider would probably panic brake and definitely benefit from it.
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More ABS youtube fun...

Honda Test

Fireblade

This is also good advice -

Just remember if the system activates, it has just saved your bacon and you pushed too far.
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(granted there may be times when it wasn't your fault)
 
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roguerower said:
I remember you saying something about it. The only issue I've heard about regarding the Triple Rs is the R/R needing to be upgraded but from what I've read, if it's under warranty, the dealers have been doing it without any hassle.

Triumphs are pretty rare and trying to find someone around here who can tell me about the dealer here in town is hard, especially since it's a newer dealer that also sells BMW motorcycles.
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The problem really isn't with the dealers.. Triumphs really aren't any more difficult to work on than a jap bike.. It's the desmo valvetrains that are a PITA with Ducati, and that they sometimes have part availability problems.

The issue is with dealer support from Triumph of NA. With a common known issue (like the R/R) there's never a problem, but if you have an oddball warranty issue Triumph will, in my experience, deny it.. I had two major problems that they blamed on me, and even the dealer felt bad but was powerless.

I'm generally a calm, polite person and I'm very used to dealing with situations on the phone etc and Triumph of NA was absolutely ridiculous to me. I had some headlight housing issues, they outright blamed me for installing those high powered bulbs (which is ridiculous) and just flat out refused to fix it.

It would also stutter really bad at 6k rpm unless you gunned it from 5500-6500.. It would actually almost stall out. They would not pay for anything, T of NA insisted the TB needed adjusted and refused to pay since it was a 'maintenance item'. This was on a 3 month old bike.. And that didn't even fix it. (this is a story in itself)

Long story short, I footed the bills fixed it and sold it. The dealers were (for the most part) great. They were knowledgeable and well-trained. The bike was built well, although IMO way too twitchy for an everyday bike. I had the TOR exhaust and it sounded beautiful. It was a great looking bike too, I loved the frame, case covers, fairings and so on..


..Then I bought a 1098 and never looked back 😛 The only thing crappy about it was the paint lol..
 
JulesMaximus said:
Kind of a moot point when you're sliding across the pavement at 40mph wishing you wore your leathers instead of jeans and a t-shirt. 😛
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It was just for the people who say... "what about when people pull out in 10' front of you and you don't have time to stop regardless..."
 
R/R = Regulator Rectifier

Basically it converts AC generated from your stator to DC, and then regulates it to stay around 12v by dumping excess heat through the heatsinks

I'm fairly sure Triumph tucked it way up near the rear suspension, which probably explains why they're having issues... They get hot, and IIRC they have a pretty hefty charging system compared to most 600's
 
SpatiallyAware said:
The problem really isn't with the dealers.. Triumphs really aren't any more difficult to work on than a jap bike.. It's the desmo valvetrains that are a PITA with Ducati, and that they sometimes have part availability problems.

The issue is with dealer support from Triumph of NA. With a common known issue (like the R/R) there's never a problem, but if you have an oddball warranty issue Triumph will, in my experience, deny it.. I had two major problems that they blamed on me, and even the dealer felt bad but was powerless.

I'm generally a calm, polite person and I'm very used to dealing with situations on the phone etc and Triumph of NA was absolutely ridiculous to me. I had some headlight housing issues, they outright blamed me for installing those high powered bulbs (which is ridiculous) and just flat out refused to fix it.

It would also stutter really bad at 6k rpm unless you gunned it from 5500-6500.. It would actually almost stall out. They would not pay for anything, T of NA insisted the TB needed adjusted and refused to pay since it was a 'maintenance item'. This was on a 3 month old bike.. And that didn't even fix it. (this is a story in itself)

Long story short, I footed the bills fixed it and sold it. The dealers were (for the most part) great. They were knowledgeable and well-trained. The bike was built well, although IMO way too twitchy for an everyday bike. I had the TOR exhaust and it sounded beautiful. It was a great looking bike too, I loved the frame, case covers, fairings and so on..

..Then I bought a 1098 and never looked back 😛 The only thing crappy about it was the paint lol..
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I understand what you're saying now. I'll do some digging around to see what I can find, maybe they've gotten better.

I'd go with a ducati but that triple r looks so damn sexy, not to mention that motorcycle.com had it beating out the Monster 796 in a shootout. I know that's just their opinion, but doing some other reviews, I've heard nothing but great things. Now if all they had was the Street Triple, I might be considering a different bike, but the R fixes most of the problems that the regular Street had.

SpatiallyAware said:
R/R = Regulator Rectifier

Basically it converts AC generated from your stator to DC, and then regulates it to stay around 12v by dumping excess heat through the heatsinks

I'm fairly sure Triumph tucked it way up near the rear suspension, which probably explains why they're having issues... They get hot, and IIRC they have a pretty hefty charging system compared to most 600's
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Yep, understand that. That's the only major issue I've found thus far and it looks like Triumph has acknowledged that it is a problem.

Do you mind explaining your Daytona problems in a little bit better detail?
 
JulesMaximus said:
I haven't laid down my current bike and I've owned it for almost 3 years now and 14,000 miles...or the bike I owned prior for that matter. That's no reason to buy or not buy a bike IMO.

Maintenance isn't as bad as you think on the new Ducatis either. At least not on these air cooled Monsters.

I'd still like to keep my current bike though. We'll see if I can make that happen when the time comes. The Monster 1100 EVO won't be available here in the states until May.
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It's coming man. Just wear your gear and live and learn. If you never wreck you aren't really pushing the bike much but it's okay nothing to prove anyways.
 
roguerower said:
I understand what you're saying now. I'll do some digging around to see what I can find, maybe they've gotten better.

I'd go with a ducati but that triple r looks so damn sexy, not to mention that motorcycle.com had it beating out the Monster 796 in a shootout. I know that's just their opinion, but doing some other reviews, I've heard nothing but great things. Now if all they had was the Street Triple, I might be considering a different bike, but the R fixes most of the problems that the regular Street had.



Yep, understand that. That's the only major issue I've found thus far and it looks like Triumph has acknowledged that it is a problem.

Do you mind explaining your Daytona problems in a little bit better detail?
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I've typed it all up before if you want to search for my username and triumph, but basically my primary issue was the way they handled my problems.

The reality is that all bikes have issues, I have never bought a new bike and not had some sort of niggling problem. Most of the brands are pretty good at honoring stuff - you might have to call and personally talk to someone or wait until the manufacturer rep is on site, but bottom line is they're willing to fix it or work with you.

I've dealt with every major manufacturer, and Triumph is simply one I'll avoid. It sucks because I really do like their bikes and they make the best gear and luggage

If you're lucky enough to never have a major problem then it won't ever affect you. If the bike is outside of warranty it won't matter either.. And you're right, they may have gotten better.. But I've obviously gotten burned fairly hard, enough to not go near them.
 
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