2011 Corvette Z07?

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Got this from LS1GTO.com, who got it elsewhere:

“Alright ladies and gentlemen, I’ve been on my buyer’s tour the past two work days and my car came off late this afternoon… So by keeping my eyes and ears open TODAY I have some 2011 news that I would say is pretty darn reliable …and I don’t think they would go to so much trouble…I acted as uninterested as possible.

For 2011 there will be a Z07 — I don’t know if it will officially be called a Z07 or a Z06 with an extra option package. What those extras will consist of is a Z06 with pieces from the ZR1. From what I understand it will have a larger radiator (ZR1’s???) plus ZR1 stabilizer bars, shocks and springs plus the F55 knob on the console. PLUS the ceramic brakes from the ZR1 (a different color caliper — probably a darkish gray) and ZR1 wheels in the competition gray color. I’m actually pretty sure all of that will simply be a package for the Z06 along with another package that will have black outside mirrors (regardless of the body color), a black carbon fiber roof, and the front splitter and rocker panel extensions also in the black carbon fiber with a ZR1 spoiler. So I guess you’ll pretty much have a ZR1 without the engine… Kind of like getting a Z06 without the engine by buying a 2010 Grand Sport…

Some other stuff I paid attention to: There was a car coming down the line in a new color — it had some black mirrors too so I’m wondering if it could have been one of the Z07 models. The interesting color was a metallic orange. Definitely not Atomic Orange — could it have been the Sunset Orange from before? When I asked the name of the color nobody knew or weren’t saying. It was definitely a 2011 because there was a handwritten sheet hanging from the front. The seats were different too with some extra stitching and the two tone pattern was a little different on the seat bottom.

And I also over heard a conversation about the aluminum frame being on all Corvettes. The response I heard was something like “in the past stuff added to more expensive models tends to trickle down.” Sort of a politician’s answer I suppose.

I feel a little like my name should be “Scoop Newsworthy” or something… If all this is true or not, we’ll know soon I would guess. For sure I saw the orange car! And I believe the Z07 story…”

I dunno bout all this. The brakes, suspension, wheels...have to add at least $15K to the Z06. When you're in that price range, why not just get a ZR1? It's not like you don't have the cash.

Coupe: $48.9K
Vert: $53.5K
GS coupe: $54.7K
GS vert: $58.5K
Z06: $74.2K
ZR1: $106.8K
 

brblx

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Guess you haven't read all the glowing reports about this particular Chevy?

if you want a track-only car, just buy an elise/exige.

'but it's 100k less than a ferrari' is just stupid reasoning.
 

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I wouldn't pay 300k for a Lexus either. Heck I wouldn't pay 50k for one.
No shit. I rode in an IS250 and the dash looked like shit; Fisher Price plastic and gaps that would make an Aveo look good. What are you supposed to be getting for all that money?
 

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if you want a track-only car, just buy an elise/exige.

'but it's 100k less than a ferrari' is just stupid reasoning.
I understand, but (A) a Lotus doesn't have the power of a V8 supercar and (B) some people like something practical & fun to drive on the street AND track. I have no interest in DDing a Lotus, but am looking at a Vette in the next few years.
 

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No shit. I rode in an IS250 and the dash looked like shit; Fisher Price plastic and gaps that would make an Aveo look good. What are you supposed to be getting for all that money?

The Lexus IS is magnificent quality. The buttons, handles are all top notch. It's very comfortable and unlike many GM products has real leather, not pleather or fake wood.
 

fbrdphreak

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The buttons and handles on many GM products look and work just fine. And if you jerk off to leather, then more power to you, but if the seats are comfortable I don't care what they're made of. The IS250 doesn't match my priorities at $30K+.

And while I'm not a dash stroker, the dash in the IS250 just looked cheap as hell. I'm guessing the model was a year or two old? So much for "magnificent quality."
 

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The Lexus IS is magnificent quality. The buttons, handles are all top notch. It's very comfortable and unlike many GM products has real leather, not pleather or fake wood.

I have 2 friends that have new Lexus IS cars. It ain't magnificent at all and didn't really impress much. And yes it DOES have fake wood.
 

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I have 2 friends that have new Lexus IS cars. It ain't magnificent at all and didn't really impress much. And yes it DOES have fake wood.

Unless it's changed, that is incorrect. The wood is real and made by Yamaha.

They do slice it thin on the cheaper models like the IS though.
 

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Uh... yea... let's just get this straight:

1) Lexus interiors = top notch. If you disagree, you are blind.

2) You don't get to buy a $300K Lexus even if you wanted to. Lexus chooses buyers like Harvard chooses students.
 

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Wouldn't pay 100 Gs for a Chevy, sorry.

100g's for what you get is well worth it, IF you are looking for that caliber of a car

if you want a track-only car, just buy an elise/exige.

'but it's 100k less than a ferrari' is just stupid reasoning.

the elise/exige can't hold a candle to the z06 or zr1... ref, used the same driver for the times listed here:
ZR1: 7.38
C6z06: 7.49
Exige: 8:25

Not to mention the vette is a LOT more practical then the Lotus.

The Lexus IS is magnificent quality. The buttons, handles are all top notch. It's very comfortable and unlike many GM products has real leather, not pleather or fake wood.

There are no door handles in the vette, the buttons work... never knew there was such a high standard for buttons...

Uh... yea... let's just get this straight:

1) Lexus interiors = top notch. If you disagree, you are blind.

2) You don't get to buy a $300K Lexus even if you wanted to. Lexus chooses buyers like Harvard chooses students.

1) Blinders? Must be kidding me... most of their cars are nice, but the IS is the lowest tier and it shows

2) Lexus chooses buyers like Harvard chooses students? ROFL... Now I know you are a fanboy...
 
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100g's for what you get is well worth it, IF you are looking for that caliber of a car



the elise/exige can't hold a candle to the z06 or zr1... ref, used the same driver for the times listed here:
ZR1: 7.38
C6z06: 7.49
Exige: 8:25

Not to mention the vette is a LOT more practical then the Lotus.



There are no door handles in the vette, the buttons work... never knew there was such a high standard for buttons...



1) Blinders? Must be kidding me... most of their cars are nice, but the IS is the lowest tier and it shows

2) Lexus chooses buyers like Harvard chooses students? ROFL... Now I know you are a fanboy...

Please continue to roll on the ground like an idiot. Lexus is selling LF-As ONLY TO SELECT BUYERS OF THEIR CHOOSING. I would Google that one for you but it would be a waste of time.
 
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if you want a track-only car, just buy an elise/exige.

'but it's 100k less than a ferrari' is just stupid reasoning.

Talk about stupid reasoning. The ZR1 isn't a track only car. Its Enzo fast while being much more practical than even the 599 (and aside from cost alone, definitely more practical than an Elise). All while costing a lot less money. You can't argue that its an amazing value regardless of you liking the brand or not. Hell, if you're that up tight about it, I'm sure with the money you saved compared to the Ferrari you can have whatever interior you want, full carbon fiber body panels, and make it even faster. Now, the Viper ACR fits your description.

Comparing a ZR1 to an Elise/Exige makes less sense than comparing it to a Ferrari.

I don't think I'd buy a ZR1 either, but I still think its an incredible car.

And WTF is with the Lexus arguing?

I dunno bout all this. The brakes, suspension, wheels...have to add at least $15K to the Z06. When you're in that price range, why not just get a ZR1? It's not like you don't have the cash.

Coupe: $48.9K
Vert: $53.5K
GS coupe: $54.7K
GS vert: $58.5K
Z06: $74.2K
ZR1: $106.8K

That makes plenty of sense. Its halfway between the ZR1 and Z06. Sure, I'd say the extra for the ZR1 is worth it, but its pretty much the same reasoning for the Grand Sport. I doubt they're expecting to sell many, but maybe they're just testing the waters to see what buyers will do.
 
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100g's for what you get is well worth it, IF you are looking for that caliber of a car



the elise/exige can't hold a candle to the z06 or zr1... ref, used the same driver for the times listed here:
ZR1: 7.38
C6z06: 7.49
Exige: 8:25

Not to mention the vette is a LOT more practical then the Lotus.

those lap time comparisons are gonna change a bit on something that's not extremely high speed. but yes, the 'vette is fast, i'm not arguing that.

but it is not practical by a long shot. the base model will rattle the fillings out of your teeth, i can't imagine what the z06 or zr1 is like. something isn't practical just because it has a trunk.
 

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Please continue to roll on the ground like an idiot. Lexus is selling LF-As ONLY TO SELECT BUYERS OF THEIR CHOOSING. I would Google that one for you but it would be a waste of time.

http://jalopnik.com/5410991/lexus-lfa-lease-or-buy-the-full-story

What Lexus USA is trying to do is to prevent speculators from driving the price of the already super-expensive supercar into the stratosphere. The LFA is supposed to be the flagship of a new focus on competing with other automakers on performance and exclusivity as well as quality. Giving Lexus that shine means controlling the customer experience to the last possible degree and that means insuring we don't see the LFA up for sale on eBay.


So what Lexus USA is doing is creating a special lease arrangement in

which the company will retain the LFA's title for two years before turning it over to the owner. That's not a traditional lease model involving deposits and finance arrangements, it's just being called a "lease" because "customers will arrive at a private deal with the company about how much they're going to pay and when (always totaling the identical total price), then the company will turn over the title after two years" takes up too much space.


So yes, you can still walk into an American Lexus dealer with a whale penis leather briefcase full of ill-gotten gains and walk out with an LFA, you just won't get the title in the mail for two years. That restriction only applies in the US. Well-healed European Toyota enthusiasts will be receiving their titles immediately.

Sounds to me like you can walk into the dealership and drive the car home... tell me how they pick and chose you now?
 

Elganja

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those lap time comparisons are gonna change a bit on something that's not extremely high speed. but yes, the 'vette is fast, i'm not arguing that.

but it is not practical by a long shot. the base model will rattle the fillings out of your teeth, i can't imagine what the z06 or zr1 is like. something isn't practical just because it has a trunk.

have you owned one? Granted I've had my z06 for a grand total of 1 week now but have a little over 1k miles on it. It's as smooth as my 07 Acura TL albiet a little louder inside then my dad's gs350 (to be expected). It's very practical, even has a real useable trunk.

I'll tell you what though, for a sports car, it's very comfortable. I drove it home from Tampa to Virginia, a 13.5 hour drive I did straight. My ass didn't hurt, my legs had plenty of room (i'm 6'2"), and my back was fine. In my Acura, after 2-3 hours of driving... my ass hurts and my legs get cramped... back is always fine though.
 

Elganja

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Wow, even your Googling has failed. I'll give you a few more hours to find WTF I'm actually talking about and hang your head in shame.

i'm sorry jalopnik isn't a credible source for you
 

fbrdphreak

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but it is not practical by a long shot. the base model will rattle the fillings out of your teeth, i can't imagine what the z06 or zr1 is like. something isn't practical just because it has a trunk.
Have you ever driven or ridden in a Vette? A close friend of mine DD's his C5 Z06 and I have ridden in it many a time. It is a bit loud and when really beating on it, the transmission tunnel gets toasty. But the ride quality was plenty fine for such a fast and great handling car. Another friend's wife DD's her C5 convertible automatic (Hi Marlin!). If a little Asian lady can handle a Vette in rush hour commute, I think anyone else who is considering a Corvette can as well. It's not a damn STi. Hell, my Legacy with 18-inch wheels and 35 series RE-01R tires rides rougher than a Vette.

http://jalopnik.com/5410991/lexus-lfa-lease-or-buy-the-full-story



Sounds to me like you can walk into the dealership and drive the car home... tell me how they pick and chose you now?
IIRC, in Europe Lexus is pretty much only selling LFA's to select individuals due to low stock.

FYI Lexus fangirls: LFA != other Lexus cars. The LFA seems like a great car. Lexus makes many good cars. Some suck in certain ways, just like every other car on this planet. But Lexus' shit DOES stink, as does yours, as does a Corvette's. Get over it already.
 

MJinZ

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i'm sorry jalopnik isn't a credible source for you

I'm sorry you fail to comprehend English.

Yes, I can tell you the right terms to Google, but that would be too sad.

Here's a hint: a key word rhymes with "Tie".