2011 Blackberry lineup

[Imp]

I have slight nudges within my head telling me to get a smartphone for shits and giggles, so these look interesting. Very interested in the Playbook, and being a stock owner, yay RIM.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Remind me how many Dual Core Tegra 2 phones or phones with 1.2Ghz CPUs or above can I buy today in store?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Remind me how many Dual Core Tegra 2 phones or phones with 1.2Ghz CPUs or above can I buy today in store?

Droid 2 Global, how many will be already out by Sept. is the important question.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Droid 2 Global, how many will be already out by Sept. is the important question.

No Tegra 2? DOA. Only Single Core? DOA. Only 854x640? DOA. Only 3.7"? DOA.*

:whiste:



*RIM Hater style.

 

[MrX8503]

Remind me how many Dual Core Tegra 2 phones or phones with 1.2Ghz CPUs or above can I buy today in store?

By the time these BBs release? Several.

 

[DivideBYZero]

By the time these BBs release? Several.

Name them.

 

[MrX8503]

Name them.

Never heard of CES 2011?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Never heard of CES 2011?

My Wife was there. Were you?

Name them.

 

[MrX8503]

My Wife was there. Were you?

Name them.

I ran out of silver spoons.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Name them.

The Moto Atrix, Droid Bionic, and LG Optimus 2X should all be out by the time these Blackberries are relesed. A non Tegra phones that will be faster is the Samsung Infuse 4g which has a 1.2ghz Hummingbird processor.

 

[DivideBYZero]

The Moto Atrix, Droid Bionic, and LG Optimus 2X should all be out by the time these Blackberries are relesed. A non Tegra phones that will be faster is the Samsung Infuse 4g which has a 1.2ghz Hummingbird processor.

Remind me how much faster than 1.2 Ghz a 1.2Ghz processor is...?

Haters gonna hate...

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Remind me how much faster than 1.2 Ghz a 1.2Ghz processor is...?

Haters gonna hate...

It could potentially be considerably faster. To use an extreme example a 1.2ghz Sandy Bridge processor could offer 100x the floating point performance of a 1.2ghz Cortex A8 processor. Using the clock speed to compare performance of different cpu's is meaningless.

I'm hardly a RIM hater, if the wifi Playbook is fairly priced I'll likely pick one up on launch day.

 

[DivideBYZero]

It could potentially be considerably faster. To use an extreme example a 1.2ghz Sandy Bridge processor could offer 100x the floating point performance of a 1.2ghz Cortex A8 processor. Using the clock speed to compare performance of different cpu's is meaningless.

I'm hardly a RIM hater, if the wifi Playbook is fairly priced I'll likely pick one up on launch day.

That's cool. My point is just because these are BB specs, people are calling them shit/old/lame, etc. If these were yet another Android device the same people would be in this thread with extra lotion and Kleenex.

 

[Deeko]

The Moto Atrix, Droid Bionic, and LG Optimus 2X should all be out by the time these Blackberries are relesed. A non Tegra phones that will be faster is the Samsung Infuse 4g which has a 1.2ghz Hummingbird processor.

The Atrix and Droid Bionic are basically the same phone. The Samsung Infuse we don't really know - the "Hummingbird" as of today is not significantly faster than competing processors (although its GPU is faster - but that's not what we're talking about).

I don't expect these Blackberry phones to be the absolute, cutting edge, best hardware you can get. However, my point is that this is still solid hardware, and its a lot closer to the cutting edge than RIM's older line.

Blackberry is still selling in droves, so they're making gradual steps to improve & get more in line with today's top end phones. This seems like a smart plan. Look at Palm - they took the opposite method, and they failed miserably.

 

[sjwaste]

That's cool. My point is just because these are BB specs, people are calling them shit/old/lame, etc. If these were yet another Android device the same people would be in this thread with extra lotion and Kleenex.

They'd be shit specs for a series of 2011 series of Android phones too.

I don't understand the fixation on any one manufacturer or platform. What happened to wanting to see the best devices out, period? I personally do not care if it's a BB, iPhone, HTC, Motorola, or someone else.

In other words, why are we on message boards doing other companies' marketing for them? If a device sucks, it's okay to say so.

 

[DivideBYZero]

They'd be shit specs for a series of 2011 series of Android phones too.

I don't understand the fixation on any one manufacturer or platform. What happened to wanting to see the best devices out, period? I personally do not care if it's a BB, iPhone, HTC, Motorola, or someone else.

In other words, why are we on message boards doing other companies' marketing for them? If a device sucks, it's okay to say so.

They'll equal or best most Android devices shipped this year, so why are you marketing for Android?

 

[sjwaste]

They'll equal or best most Android devices shipped this year, so why are you marketing for Android?

That was a direct response to your Android comparison. A shit phone is a shit phone, and it won't make it any better for me if it runs Android or not.

Quite honestly, the best user experience is on the platform I don't own - iPhone. BB6 and Android 2.2 both have a pretty mediocre UI, and are laggy at times, even on the "higher end" hardware like my Evo.

I'm happy enough with my Android phone, but I'm more than outspoken in the ways that it sucks. And just because I like Android now doesn't mean I'm sticking to the brand, either. It makes absolutely no sense to have that kind of brand loyalty in this market. It's irrational consumer behavior.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I have an iPhone, Android and BlackBerry device on hand at any time in my house. I'm probably one of the few on this forum that has all three major players, two of which are on a corporate system. Although I prefer BB, I fully understand the benefits and pitfalls of the other platforms. Hence this is why I find it laughable when people shit all over BB, when it's a cracking platform, let down by some UI issues, many of which are addressed by OS6, and hardware lag in the last three years. Now that RIM are addressing the hardware lag, people are still jumping on them like they killed their dog. I don't get it.

 

[sjwaste]

I have an iPhone, Android and BlackBerry device on hand at any time in my house. I'm probably one of the few on this forum that has all three major players, two of which are on a corporate system. Although I prefer BB, I fully understand the benefits and pitfalls of the other platforms. Hence this is why I find it laughable when people shit all over BB, when it's a cracking platform, let down by some UI issues, many of which are addressed by OS6, and hardware lag in the last three years. Now that RIM are addressing the hardware lag, people are still jumping on them like they killed their dog. I don't get it.

BB is still the king in enterprise email. It's all we'll use.

There is no perfect device out there. People will go out and shit on other products, either because it doesn't run their favorite OS (irrational consumer behavior) or because it's particularly weak in things they like to do (rational consumer behavior).

This is AT. Like it or not, most of the people you're arguing with are not enterprise users. They're high school/college age and want the latest specs with lots of multimedia capability.

I have all 3 in my house as well (BB is enterprise) and I find major flaws in all of them. What I'm looking for as a personal device still isn't out there. If you asked me to pick my next one right now, I couldn't - no one is impressing me with their offerings. I like the Android UI, but hate the lag. Love the iPhone battery life, but the screen is too small for me. Love BB's email capability, but virtually nothing else about it.

Oh well. Maybe in another year.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

That's cool. My point is just because these are BB specs, people are calling them shit/old/lame, etc. If these were yet another Android device the same people would be in this thread with extra lotion and Kleenex.

Yeah, I will agree the hate is a bit excessive. Some of these new phones are close to 4x as powerful as the models they will be replacing (making the reasonable assumption that the new processors are Cortex A8 or better) and since the software they will be running may not be that much more demanding they should be very fast and responsive, something Apple fans are always saying is a critical requirement for a smart phone.

IMO I'd still prefer a Android phone like the Atrix but you have to admit that these are a substantial improvement for RIM.

 

[zsdersw]

RIMotorsungTC is coming out with a new phone that has a quad-core ARM CPU/RadeonHD-6900-class GPU SoC, 32GB of RAM, in a form factor whose screen (IPS, 700ppi) expands/contracts from 3.5" up to 5", with notches at the 3.7, 4.0, 4.3, and 4.5" sizes, has a physical keyboard that appears/disappears as desired by the user, gets approximately 10 days of 4G/LTE internet browsing on a single charge, has a Canon EOS-grade camera (front and rear) with flash, mini-HDMI port, and standard microUSB charging port. It also comes with 256GB of internal storage, with a microSD slot for up to an additional 256GB, and has all the radios, ESN/IMEI numbers, and SIM slots required to make it functional on any carrier in the world.

Satisfied?

 

[DivideBYZero]

RIMotorsungTC is coming out with a new phone that has a quad-core ARM CPU/Radeon6900-class GPU SoC, 32GB of RAM, a screen that expands/contracts from 3.5" up to 5", with notches at the 3.7, 4.0, 4.3, and 4.5" sizes, gets approximately 10 days of 4G/LTE internet browsing on a single charge, has a Canon EOS-grade camera (front and rear) with flash, mini-HDMI port, and standard microUSB charging port. It also comes with 256GB of internal storage, with a microSD slot for up to an additional 256GB, and has all the radios, ESN/IMEI numbers, and SIM slots required to make it functional on any carrier in the world.

Satisfied?

Lame. Octo-core will mean this thing is DOA.

 

[zsdersw]

Lame. Octo-core will mean this thing is DOA.

Oh, I forgot to mention, this phone can access all app markets, is 4mm thick (regardless of screen size), is not locked down in any way, has an OS that is bug-free and puts each app in a sandbox (so as not to compromise system integrity) and has a fully multi-touch interface that's smooth as a baby's butt, and has a no-contract price of $100.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Oh, I forgot to mention, this phone can access all app markets, is 4mm thick (regardless of screen size), is not locked down in any way, has an OS that is bug-free and puts each app in a sandbox (so as not to compromise system integrity) and has a fully multi-touch interface that's smooth as a baby's butt, and has a no-contract price of $100.

Actually, QNX does this.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

anyone who uses any internet at all should avoid bb like the plague and that includes bb's with bb6. i tried bb6 this weekend and it is almost as bad as bb5.