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overst33r

overst33r

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Too much misinformation in this thread...

Nice pickup. Please do us a favor and ditch the wheels! Chrome does not belong on a sports car.
 
overst33r

overst33r

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ja1484

Comparing aftermarket tuned vehicles to stock vehicles has always been a moot exercise in my mind. I suppose you can make an argument on an equal cost basis (i.e. performance per dollar), but even then there are intangibles like wear and tear. A force-induced 4 banger pushing tons of boost to match performance of a stock V8 is going to require a lot more maintenance. It's just not a good solution.

As mentioned, they're different machines for different things. The S2000 is an excellent car and I'd love to have one. Just don't mistake it for something it isn't.
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Yeah, I often cite C5 Vettes as about the best $/performance vehicle around, along with terminators. V8 + SC = win. But you can't dismiss an S2K just because it's a 4-banger, although it wouldn't be my first choice. I threw a Jackson SC on a 5G Prelude, and had to disable my ATTS system because the torque steer was too much for it to manage. It was fastish (low 12s on pump gas), but incredibly impractical (and got ass for fuel economy to boot). Still, a well-built Honda will be about as reliable as anything else, so long as you're not doing 5k hot launches like an idiot (looks around shiftily .. lol I broke so many CV axles on my Prelude).
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Even stock the S2000s differential is by far the weakest point in the car. Adding boost will just make it a ticking time bomb.

To get the 5.3s 0-60mph magazines claim, you need to do a clutch drop at 6k+ RPM, which is hell on the drivetrain.

Pray you don't snooze, because most family sedans and luxo barges beat it from 5-60mph, but that's a minor setback when you actually sit and drive the car like it was meant to be driven.

 
Arkaign

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ja1484

Comparing aftermarket tuned vehicles to stock vehicles has always been a moot exercise in my mind. I suppose you can make an argument on an equal cost basis (i.e. performance per dollar), but even then there are intangibles like wear and tear. A force-induced 4 banger pushing tons of boost to match performance of a stock V8 is going to require a lot more maintenance. It's just not a good solution.

As mentioned, they're different machines for different things. The S2000 is an excellent car and I'd love to have one. Just don't mistake it for something it isn't.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I often cite C5 Vettes as about the best $/performance vehicle around, along with terminators. V8 + SC = win. But you can't dismiss an S2K just because it's a 4-banger, although it wouldn't be my first choice. I threw a Jackson SC on a 5G Prelude, and had to disable my ATTS system because the torque steer was too much for it to manage. It was fastish (low 12s on pump gas), but incredibly impractical (and got ass for fuel economy to boot). Still, a well-built Honda will be about as reliable as anything else, so long as you're not doing 5k hot launches like an idiot (looks around shiftily .. lol I broke so many CV axles on my Prelude).
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Even stock the S2000s differential is by far the weakest point in the car. Adding boost will just make it a ticking time bomb.

To get the 5.3s 0-60mph magazines claim, you need to do a clutch drop at 6k+ RPM, which is hell on the drivetrain.

Pray you don't snooze, because most family sedans and luxo barges beat it from 5-60mph, but that's a minor setback when you actually sit and drive the car like it was meant to be driven.
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Points taken, I'm not familiar with the S2K diff. Is there an easy aftermarket upgrade, or are you basically screwed?
 
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chin311

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almost bought one of these last night, but couldnt do it on an impulse, so we'll see if i end up getting one.

9k redline is funnnnnn
 
overst33r

overst33r

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Originally posted by: swtethan
its 8000 for 2004+
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AHEM 8200 :D

Originally posted by: swtethan
but still sounds mean as hell on stock exhaust in tunnels @ 6000+
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You should get an HKS Hi-Power or a T1R EM and prepare to be blown away if you think the stock exhaust sounds good.

HKS Hi-Power

T1R EM

Also for a cheap sound trick, you can take off your air filter cover. It gives the car a mean growl up to vtec and completely screams in vtec. enjoy!
 
overst33r

overst33r

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Oct 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: mariok2006
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ja1484

Comparing aftermarket tuned vehicles to stock vehicles has always been a moot exercise in my mind. I suppose you can make an argument on an equal cost basis (i.e. performance per dollar), but even then there are intangibles like wear and tear. A force-induced 4 banger pushing tons of boost to match performance of a stock V8 is going to require a lot more maintenance. It's just not a good solution.

As mentioned, they're different machines for different things. The S2000 is an excellent car and I'd love to have one. Just don't mistake it for something it isn't.
Click to expand...

Yeah, I often cite C5 Vettes as about the best $/performance vehicle around, along with terminators. V8 + SC = win. But you can't dismiss an S2K just because it's a 4-banger, although it wouldn't be my first choice. I threw a Jackson SC on a 5G Prelude, and had to disable my ATTS system because the torque steer was too much for it to manage. It was fastish (low 12s on pump gas), but incredibly impractical (and got ass for fuel economy to boot). Still, a well-built Honda will be about as reliable as anything else, so long as you're not doing 5k hot launches like an idiot (looks around shiftily .. lol I broke so many CV axles on my Prelude).
Click to expand...

Even stock the S2000s differential is by far the weakest point in the car. Adding boost will just make it a ticking time bomb.

To get the 5.3s 0-60mph magazines claim, you need to do a clutch drop at 6k+ RPM, which is hell on the drivetrain.

Pray you don't snooze, because most family sedans and luxo barges beat it from 5-60mph, but that's a minor setback when you actually sit and drive the car like it was meant to be driven.
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Points taken, I'm not familiar with the S2K diff. Is there an easy aftermarket upgrade, or are you basically screwed?
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The strongest aftermarket one available is made by inline pro. It's basically a 300zx diff made to fit into an S2000 and they want $4000 for it.

http://www.inlinepro.com/s1/p-31-s2000-diff-kit.aspx

People on the forums have their own version of the stock diff using strengthened internals (cryogenics, etc) that are actually affordable.

Honda realized the diff was a weak point and put a band aid fix on it for the AP2 (04-09) by employing a clutch delay valve which is a bloody annoying device which makes smooth shifts virtually impossible.

The rule of thumb is in this car when launching is to spin the wheels and do NOT bog. Or profusely slip the clutch. Either way the point is to stay in vtec which is a lot of wear and tear no matter how you put it. Personally I'd rather replace a clutch for $700 than diff for $1500+
 
Malak

Malak

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I can't believe all the S2000 hate in here. And people actually saying it doesn't belong on the track. This is madness! Check youtube for a whole line of s2000's with 700+hp, I doubt most people in this forum can come close.
 
LTC8K6

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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To be fair, the S2000 is really not anywhere close to doing what that Mustang is doing.
 
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thedarkwolf

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Who gives a rat's ass? Nobody is ever happy with anything in here. Somebody could post about their new Ferrari and everybody would bitch about it getting bad gas mileage, being impractical, and about how their mustang is better at the drag strip.
 
LTC8K6

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Who gives a rat's ass? Nobody is ever happy with anything in here. Somebody could post about their new Ferrari and everybody would bitch about it getting bad gas mileage, being impractical, and about how their mustang is better at the drag strip.
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What are we supposed to do? All get in line and have the same opinion? :D
 
Cuda1447

Cuda1447

Lifer
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Oh come on guys, the S2k is a great car. It's not a drag car, sure its not going to beat a Mustang off the line. But on a track, where it was designed to be, it handles much much better. Fun to drive, great mid-line power. It's just not a low end torque car. Great car none the less.


Awesome pic too, OP. I need you to come take some shots of my new Z, I don't have those kind of photography skills.
 
Koing

Koing

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Nice car, ashame about the wheels :p but different styles for different people and budgets :p

I kept my stock 2002 wheels due to cost. I didn't want to spend much on wheels. I instead got new tyres and spent 2 days at the track :)

Are you going to track your car? It's a lot of fun man :thumbsup:

Koing
 
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