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2008 SI gone... bought me this

Originally posted by: zoiks
Good car. Shitty rims.
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+1

Civic SI is faster than S2000 at the track. I can provide proof if you want. Of course, I was talking bout the JDM Civic Type R.....which then isn't actually a Civic SI...
 
Originally posted by: lavaheadache
nice car, always liked the s2000.... smoked one recently in my supercharged gti vr6 =).
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GTI Vr6 is a nice car.... smoked one recently in my MPV with the kids pointing and laughing at the owner. He never realized I had a 100 shot of NOS in that family van, pwnage!

But really, that S2k is very nice. Somewhat miata like without any of the effeminate connotations (and for the record, yes, I want a miata anyway).


Good heavens in that torque pic damn that is a ton of freaking torque.
 
lol @ all the "japanese makes at the track" talk in this thread.

Stop racing rice. Civics are for fuel sipping, not track times. The S2000 is an awesome, fun to drive roadster, but let's not pretend it's in the same league as real muscle. Honda makes fantastic daily drivers and some good "fun to drive" toys.
 
Originally posted by: ja1484
lol @ all the "japanese makes at the track" talk in this thread.

Stop racing rice. Civics are for fuel sipping, not track times. The S2000 is an awesome, fun to drive roadster, but let's not pretend it's in the same league as real muscle. Honda makes fantastic daily drivers and some good "fun to drive" toys.
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theres haters everywhere. if its not rwd v8, its crap in this forum
 
Originally posted by: lavaheadache
nice car, always liked the s2000.... smoked one recently in my supercharged gti vr6 =).
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Well duh you're car is modded fairly heavily I assume and you raced an S2k. Nothing to boast about there. But your car is a dog stock.
 
Originally posted by: ja1484
lol @ all the "japanese makes at the track" talk in this thread.

Stop racing rice. Civics are for fuel sipping, not track times. The S2000 is an awesome, fun to drive roadster, but let's not pretend it's in the same league as real muscle. Honda makes fantastic daily drivers and some good "fun to drive" toys.
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S2k + decent forced induction = better than most 'muscle' cars stock. Plenty of them in the low 12s, high 11s, with trap speeds at 115+.

But yeah, stock S2K is not exactly a contender against Vette or whatever, but look at the price difference.
 
Originally posted by: evident
Originally posted by: ja1484
lol @ all the "japanese makes at the track" talk in this thread.

Stop racing rice. Civics are for fuel sipping, not track times. The S2000 is an awesome, fun to drive roadster, but let's not pretend it's in the same league as real muscle. Honda makes fantastic daily drivers and some good "fun to drive" toys.
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theres haters everywhere. if its not rwd v8, its crap in this forum
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You appear to have trouble with adjectives. You will note that I described the S2000 in that post variously as "awesome", "fun", and "fantastic". I would not describe that as hating.

But don't pull up to a Corvette or Charger SRT8 in your S2000 and start revving at him. You're only going to make him laugh.

Roadsters and muscle cars are built for different characteristics. The problem is, most people don't seem to be able to understand that.


Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ja1484
lol @ all the "japanese makes at the track" talk in this thread.

Stop racing rice. Civics are for fuel sipping, not track times. The S2000 is an awesome, fun to drive roadster, but let's not pretend it's in the same league as real muscle. Honda makes fantastic daily drivers and some good "fun to drive" toys.
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S2k + decent forced induction = better than most 'muscle' cars stock. Plenty of them in the low 12s, high 11s, with trap speeds at 115+.

But yeah, stock S2K is not exactly a contender against Vette or whatever, but look at the price difference.
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Comparing aftermarket tuned vehicles to stock vehicles has always been a moot exercise in my mind. I suppose you can make an argument on an equal cost basis (i.e. performance per dollar), but even then there are intangibles like wear and tear. A force-induced 4 banger pushing tons of boost to match performance of a stock V8 is going to require a lot more maintenance. It's just not a good solution.

As mentioned, they're different machines for different things. The S2000 is an excellent car and I'd love to have one. Just don't mistake it for something it isn't.

 
Originally posted by: ja1484

Comparing aftermarket tuned vehicles to stock vehicles has always been a moot exercise in my mind. I suppose you can make an argument on an equal cost basis (i.e. performance per dollar), but even then there are intangibles like wear and tear. A force-induced 4 banger pushing tons of boost to match performance of a stock V8 is going to require a lot more maintenance. It's just not a good solution.

As mentioned, they're different machines for different things. The S2000 is an excellent car and I'd love to have one. Just don't mistake it for something it isn't.
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Yeah, I often cite C5 Vettes as about the best $/performance vehicle around, along with terminators. V8 + SC = win. But you can't dismiss an S2K just because it's a 4-banger, although it wouldn't be my first choice. I threw a Jackson SC on a 5G Prelude, and had to disable my ATTS system because the torque steer was too much for it to manage. It was fastish (low 12s on pump gas), but incredibly impractical (and got ass for fuel economy to boot). Still, a well-built Honda will be about as reliable as anything else, so long as you're not doing 5k hot launches like an idiot (looks around shiftily .. lol I broke so many CV axles on my Prelude).
 
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