2008 academy award show

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: NFS4
How the **** did Transformers lose? WTF?

I wasn't watching.... what was the Transformers up for?

It lost out for best special effects to The Golden Compass. WTF?

 

[anxi80]

as good as twbb is...

no country > twbb

but im happy that ddl still won. as far as the major categories go... i cant complain with the results

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: silverpig
I can't stand these stupid award shows. It's nothing but a bunch of entertainers autofellating themselves into thinking they're doing something spectacular for the world. They talk about these great films, moving scenes etc etc. They make movies. They don't save lives, yet they put on this huge show like they're God's gift to earth.

Oh? And what do YOU do?

I'll look around and see if I can find a keyboard jockey award.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: silverpig
I can't stand these stupid award shows. It's nothing but a bunch of entertainers autofellating themselves into thinking they're doing something spectacular for the world. They talk about these great films, moving scenes etc etc. They make movies. They don't save lives, yet they put on this huge show like they're God's gift to earth.

Ain't nobody giving them awards for saving lives. They're getting awarded for their acting/filming abilities.

But hey, if you really want to watch people save lives, stop watching and threadcrapping and go watch doctors do what they do at a hospital.

I'm not watching...

And that's my entire issue with it. They get awards and fame and fortune for making movies, a lot of them bad ones, and people who actually do good work get jack.

And since I found this other pearl of internet wisdom on the next page of the thread, I'm thinking maybe YOU should go and make some movies. Since it's clearly not real work, you, who is involved in actual work, should find it very easy, right?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: kalster
no country for old men is WAYY overrated

Agreed... in a few years people will look back at it and wonder WTF was the Academy thinking...

Then again, Out of Africa and Chicago didn't deserve the accolade, either...

No chance. NCFOM represents some of the most talented modern filmmakers at the height of their art. Essentially every respected critic loved it, and Ebert even called it a "perfect" film. IMO it had no real competition as Best Picture this year, and thus its win was essentially inevitable. There will never be a time it isn't regarded as one of the finest films of the '00s, and indeed it could be argued that it's the best so far.

 

[OutHouse]

did anybody catch the part when they had the military people in Iraq announce the winner for the best short documentary about a lesbian?

you cant tell me that wasnt planned...

also how in the hell did golden compass win over transformers or POTC??? WTF!

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Citrix
did anybody catch the part when they had the military people in Iraq announce the winner for the best short documentary about a lesbian?

you cant tell me that wasnt planned...

Yeah that was awesome, I LOLed.

KT

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: kalster
no country for old men is WAYY overrated

Agreed... in a few years people will look back at it and wonder WTF was the Academy thinking...

Then again, Out of Africa and Chicago didn't deserve the accolade, either...

No chance. NCFOM represents some of the most talented modern filmmakers at the height of their art. Essentially every respected critic loved it, and Ebert even called it a "perfect" film. IMO it had no real competition as Best Picture this year, and thus its win was essentially inevitable. There will never be a time it isn't regarded as one of the finest films of the '00s, and indeed it could be argued that it's the best so far.

I call BS. NCFOM - the best film of the decade? pffft!
The Coen brothers are just niche filmmakers.
"The Man Who Wasn't There" is another excellent example. Style over substance.
Zero rewatchability.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: kalster
no country for old men is WAYY overrated

Agreed... in a few years people will look back at it and wonder WTF was the Academy thinking...

Then again, Out of Africa and Chicago didn't deserve the accolade, either...

No chance. NCFOM represents some of the most talented modern filmmakers at the height of their art. Essentially every respected critic loved it, and Ebert even called it a "perfect" film. IMO it had no real competition as Best Picture this year, and thus its win was essentially inevitable. There will never be a time it isn't regarded as one of the finest films of the '00s, and indeed it could be argued that it's the best so far.

I call BS. NCFOM - the best film of the decade? pffft!
The Coen brothers are just niche filmmakers.
"The Man Who Wasn't There" is another excellent example. Style over substance.
Zero rewatchability.

I'm sorry, but I heartily disagree. Heck I've watched Fargo, The Big Lebowski, and Raising Arzona several times each because I think they are excellent, well-made films. They are not my favourite directors, but I certainly do not just think they are 'niche' filmmakers.

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: NFS4
How the **** did Transformers lose? WTF?

I wasn't watching.... what was the Transformers up for?

sound editing and sound mixing.

I picked it for mixing, but somehow, Bourne Ultimatum won in both categories...WTF?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: KLin
Daniel Day Lewis FTW! There Will Be Blood was a great movie. :thumbsup:

Debatable ... but his performance was superb.

Nah, Blood should have won, but I had No Country a very close second.

KT

same. I thought the Coens were gonna get the big shaft this year. Even though I'm glad they won out...it did screw me over in my local pool. No free rentals for me this year 🙁

I thought There Will be Blood was more solid all around. Oh well...

Best Actor and supporting was no contest though. I like how Helen Miren just read off the winner with no pause. As if no one needed to wait.

Also glad I picked Best Actress correctly. Probably a surprise to many, but Cotillard was fantastic. Sort of a last minute switch by me...but after seeing pics of what she really looks like (omfg she's gorgeous), and comparing to her as Piaf....holy shite. I think they won for makeup too? Well-deserved.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: NFS4
How the **** did Transformers lose? WTF?

I wasn't watching.... what was the Transformers up for?

It lost out for best special effects to The Golden Compass. WTF?

oh yeah...it was up for that too. I thought Pirates should have gotten it over Transformers though

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: KLin
Daniel Day Lewis FTW! There Will Be Blood was a great movie. :thumbsup:

Debatable ... but his performance was superb.

Nah, Blood should have won, but I had No Country a very close second.

KT

same. I thought the Coens were gonna get the big shaft this year. Even though I'm glad they won out...it did screw me over in my local pool. No free rentals for me this year 🙁

I thought There Will be Blood was more solid all around. Oh well...

Best Actor and supporting was no contest though. I like how Helen Miren just read off the winner with no pause. As if no one needed to wait.

Also glad I picked Best Actress correctly. Probably a surprise to many, but Cotillard was fantastic. Sort of a last minute switch by me...but after seeing pics of what she really looks like (omfg she's gorgeous), and comparing to her as Piaf....holy shite. I think they won for makeup too? Well-deserved.

Haha, sounds as if you picked similarly to me. I picked Cotillard as well and thought the Coens would lose out again. Bardem and DDL were locks though.

KT

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

I call BS. NCFOM - the best film of the decade? pffft!
The Coen brothers are just niche filmmakers.
"The Man Who Wasn't There" is another excellent example. Style over substance.
Zero rewatchability.

I don't think it's fair to point out that one or two Coen Bros movies aren't stellar (the other one I don't love is The Hudsucker Proxy), when almost all of their films are so strong, and this particular one is tremendous.

What other films would you put on a level with, or above NCFOM, in the last 8 years?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: kalster
no country for old men is WAYY overrated

Agreed... in a few years people will look back at it and wonder WTF was the Academy thinking...

Then again, Out of Africa and Chicago didn't deserve the accolade, either...

No chance. NCFOM represents some of the most talented modern filmmakers at the height of their art. Essentially every respected critic loved it, and Ebert even called it a "perfect" film. IMO it had no real competition as Best Picture this year, and thus its win was essentially inevitable. There will never be a time it isn't regarded as one of the finest films of the '00s, and indeed it could be argued that it's the best so far.

I agree that it is their best work, but I think it is far from perfect. It's definitely more mature from their earlier flights. The deadpan humor is subtle and almost non-existent, whereas previously they would lose the story in favor of irony and silliness. (I always liked that, though)

While Chigurh is a fantastic character, and will probably become one of those classic film Icons like Lecter or Norman Baites, his actual identity in the film wasn't solidified. The film suggests that he's a specter, Death incarnate. So now you have this phantom interjected amidst some very well portrayed, and shockingly blunt realism.

Llewelyn didn't deserve the ending that he was given (a very capable individual offed by some random Mexicans, off-camera?), Tommy Lee was never involved in the main action. There is a lot of philosophy about violence and human nature going on here, and each character serves their parts in representing it...but it's a bit too much of it, I think. The message is never explicit.

I think TWBB was more focused. The traditional bio-epic that Hollywood loves, mixed in with some classic American myth and history. Also one of the greatest performances by an individual in the history of the medium. That's my take, anyway. Both were great, though.

I wish The Diving Bell and the Butterfly had received more love, though. Not sure why it wasn't even nominated in the foreign language category (maybe they tried for Best Picture?). In several ways....I think it was better than No Country and TWBB.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: kalster
no country for old men is WAYY overrated

Agreed... in a few years people will look back at it and wonder WTF was the Academy thinking...

Then again, Out of Africa and Chicago didn't deserve the accolade, either...

No chance. NCFOM represents some of the most talented modern filmmakers at the height of their art. Essentially every respected critic loved it, and Ebert even called it a "perfect" film. IMO it had no real competition as Best Picture this year, and thus its win was essentially inevitable. There will never be a time it isn't regarded as one of the finest films of the '00s, and indeed it could be argued that it's the best so far.

I call BS. NCFOM - the best film of the decade? pffft!
The Coen brothers are just niche filmmakers.
"The Man Who Wasn't There" is another excellent example. Style over substance.
Zero rewatchability.

I'm sorry, but I heartily disagree. Heck I've watched Fargo, The Big Lebowski, and Raising Arzona several times each because I think they are excellent, well-made films. They are not my favourite directors, but I certainly do not just think they are 'niche' filmmakers.

KT

that...and I've watched The Man Who Wasn't There at least 10 times over. Plenty of re-watchability.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

TWBB fell apart in the last 20 minutes or so, otherwise it would have been a stronger contender. Also, you never really get a sense of why DDL really spirals out of control, and I felt that kept me from connecting with his character.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Llewelyn didn't deserve the ending that he was given (a very capable individual offed by some random Mexicans, off-camera?)

Agreed. This part really bothered me, but I assumed it was being true to the novel, which I never read. Either way, I still agree it felt undeserved.

Originally posted by: zinfamous
I think TWBB was more focused. The traditional bio-epic that Hollywood loves, mixed in with some classic American myth and history. Also one of the greatest performances by an individual in the history of the medium. That's my take, anyway. Both were great, though.

I loved No Country, which I saw a few months ago, but after seeing Blood, well I had not seen a performace like that in a very, very long time and the way it was presented by the director made it stand out even more. Just fantastic all the way around.

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

I call BS. NCFOM - the best film of the decade? pffft!
The Coen brothers are just niche filmmakers.
"The Man Who Wasn't There" is another excellent example. Style over substance.
Zero rewatchability.

I don't think it's fair to point out that one or two Coen Bros movies aren't stellar (the other one I don't love is The Hudsucker Proxy), when almost all of their films are so strong, and this particular one is tremendous.

What other films would you put on a level with, or above NCFOM, in the last 8 years?

The Aviator, The Departed, and Brokeback come to mind...

Heck, I'm just glad that they've successfully purged memory of "The Ladykillers."

...oops, there I go again 🙂

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Llewelyn didn't deserve the ending that he was given (a very capable individual offed by some random Mexicans, off-camera?)

Agreed. This part really bothered me, but I assumed it was being true to the novel, which I never read. Either way, I still agree it felt undeserved.

KT

That's the Major flaw in No Country. The Coens tried to stay too true to the novel. Would have been tighter as a film if they shaved off the last 40 minutes or so. Story and overall message could have been more direct.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

The Aviator, The Departed, and Brokeback come to mind...

Heck, I'm just glad that they've successfully purged memory of "The Ladykillers."

...oops, there I go again 🙂

I liked all of those movies, but none of them was, IMO, as focused as NCFOM, and The Aviator and The Departed were just not as artistically ambitious. The movie that comes to my mind as maybe my favorite in the '00s is Adaptation, but I'd also put Mystic River and Brokeback Mountain in the mix. In any case I think NCFOM is as good a movie as I've seen in the past eight years.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: zinfamous

The Aviator, The Departed, and Brokeback come to mind...

Heck, I'm just glad that they've successfully purged memory of "The Ladykillers."

...oops, there I go again 🙂

I liked all of those movies, but none of them was, IMO, as focused as NCFOM, and The Aviator and The Departed were just not as artistically ambitious. The movie that comes to my mind as maybe my favorite in the '00s is Adaptation, but I'd also put Mystic River and Brokeback Mountain in the mix. In any case I think NCFOM is as good a movie as I've seen in the past eight years.

It really is silly to try and pick one fantastically well-made flick over another. 😉

I also really liked Adaptation, but the films of this decade that have had the most impact on me so far have been "Eternal Sunshine..." and "Amelie."

 

[quikah]

Originally posted by: fisher
i'm surprised they didn't mention roy scheider, even if he just missed the cutoff date.

He will be in next years. I am sure they have had the montage finished for a couple weeks now, no sense in going back and re-editing it. That is why they have the date in the begining.

Overall not bad, still haven't seen most of the films nominated. The only real award I was interested in was the song. "Once" deserved that one, such a great movie and great music.

 

[sohcrates]

did anyone see the There Will Be Blood "i'll drink your milkshake" skit on SNL this weekend? It was really well done (but only made sense if you actually saw the movie)

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: NFS4
How the **** did Transformers lose? WTF?

The story sucked.
The acting sucked.
The transformer vs. transformer fights sucked.
It was too short.
The plot was predictable.
The characters were undeveloped.
Optimums Prime was the wrong kind of semi-truck.
Bumblebee was the wrong kind of car.
Etc, etc.

The only redeeming qualities of the film were the impressive display of US Military hardware and John Voit portraying Donald Rumsfeld and blowing away little transformers with a pump action scatter gun.