Not that I'm aware of, but the size (5.7l) is pretty set. The towing capacity is also supposed to be over 10,000. The load capacity, as far as I know, is still unknown.
I just can't figure out why the specs aren't out if it's already in SOP. I know the HP ratings but I'm curious what the torque is going to be.
I was watching The Good The Bad and The Ugly with Jeremy Clarkson last night. He was comparing American pickup trucks to covered wagons. Both were basically just two axels held on with spindles. 
But I'd still take a Silverado over the Tundra.
But I'd still take a Silverado over the Tundra.
NFS4
No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
diesel > gas, that's all i have to say
Yeah, except you still can't get them in light trucks/passenger cars in all 50 states
Umm your point??? I am not talking about that website, I am talking about car press that hasn't driven it and still gives it 5 stars.
Bottom line: your a toyota fanboy, and I am an american fanboy.
While that may be true in some cases, most of the reviews and previews I have read about it go something like "While we are waiting to test one, we can say now that this is going to be the best pick up truck yet) and then they go to list features that have been in the ford and chevy trucks since the 90's. Hell even one magazine (forget which one, might have been Automobile) said "Bottom Line: It's a Toyota" and proceeded to give it 5 stars in its buyer's guide when it clearly stated that it hadn't even driven one yet.
I am a proud owner of a 2001 Toyota Tundra.
That being said, the 2001 model was the perfect truck for me. It was a "mid sized" truck with a nice V8 that could tow my boat and travel trailer and that I could still park without having to have a pilots license. I also like the conservative looks and the real metal bumpers.
I don't like the 2007. Its too big for what I need at this point. The looks just don't cut it for me, especially that interior. The new V8 are to me manufactured in Alabama. The truck in made in San Antonio.Time will tell about the reliability.
That being said, the 2001 model was the perfect truck for me. It was a "mid sized" truck with a nice V8 that could tow my boat and travel trailer and that I could still park without having to have a pilots license. I also like the conservative looks and the real metal bumpers.
I don't like the 2007. Its too big for what I need at this point. The looks just don't cut it for me, especially that interior. The new V8 are to me manufactured in Alabama. The truck in made in San Antonio.Time will tell about the reliability.
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
diesel > gas, that's all i have to say
Yeah, except you still can't get them in light trucks/passenger cars in all 50 states
Diesel sucks, that's all I have to say.
In 1998, California identified diesel exhaust particulate matter (PM) as a toxic air contaminant based on its potential to cause cancer, premature death, and other health problems. Diesel engines also contribute to California's fine particulate matter (PM2.5) air quality problems. Those most vulnerable are children whose lungs are still developing and the elderly who may have other serious health problems. Based on year 2000 emissions in California, diesel PM contributes each year to 2000 premature deaths and thousands of hospital admissions, asthma attacks and other respiratory symptoms, and lost workdays. Overall, diesel engine emissions are responsible for the majority of California's known cancer risk from outdoor air pollutants. In addition, diesel soot causes visibility reduction and is a potent global warmer. The document describing Diesel Exhaust as a Toxic Air Contaminant is listed on this page.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm
The auto rags are the dregs of the journalism world. Most awards are paid for up front, and nothing more than a marketing gimmick up for grabs for the biggest bidder.
Toyota makes the most money these days and also hands out the biggest bags of money to the auto rags, which is why they win a lot of these "awards".
Toyota makes the most money these days and also hands out the biggest bags of money to the auto rags, which is why they win a lot of these "awards".
Fenixgoon
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
diesel > gas, that's all i have to say
Yeah, except you still can't get them in light trucks/passenger cars in all 50 states
Diesel sucks, that's all I have to say.
In 1998, California identified diesel exhaust particulate matter (PM) as a toxic air contaminant based on its potential to cause cancer, premature death, and other health problems. Diesel engines also contribute to California's fine particulate matter (PM2.5) air quality problems. Those most vulnerable are children whose lungs are still developing and the elderly who may have other serious health problems. Based on year 2000 emissions in California, diesel PM contributes each year to 2000 premature deaths and thousands of hospital admissions, asthma attacks and other respiratory symptoms, and lost workdays. Overall, diesel engine emissions are responsible for the majority of California's known cancer risk from outdoor air pollutants. In addition, diesel soot causes visibility reduction and is a potent global warmer. The document describing Diesel Exhaust as a Toxic Air Contaminant is listed on this page.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/diesel/diesel-health.htm
let me ask you this... what ISN'T known to california to cause cancer?
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